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“"I have a real concern that some leftist technocrats are creating an Orwellian environment where people are being arbitrarily silenced or banned for saying something the 'thought police' doesn't like," Freitas said in the post.””

too late to say that. it’s already happening

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“"I have a real concern that some leftist technocrats are creating an Orwellian environment where people are being arbitrarily silenced or banned for saying something the 'thought police' doesn't like," Freitas said in the post.””

Not the "thought police but their other users who are offended, which means they could take their business elsewhere. Social media and the press are not obliged to publish every point of view. They cans say or not say what they want, and they can edit anything they find offensive. Same thing with the press. They can have a specific point of view and become a megaphone for that point of view. There is not one thing any level of government can or should be able to do about that. A free press and freedom of speech means the government cannot a priori censor speech or written thoughts. Those are protected. However the 1st Amendment does not oblige any individual member of the press to publish articles it opposes for any reason.

In any event, there are plenty of sites filled with right wing vitriole that would shut down anyone with progressive ideas in a New York nanosecond, well a nanosecond after there were fifty posts threatening the person who made the post with a progressive idea, along with their spouse and kids. So all this whining about the right being censored is just a bunch of noise.

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That's kind of dumb. I don't wanna get alerts, at all in general, or for every post about transexuals, far right and/or left. I just want to enjoy memes, photos and videos from friends.

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-Facebook said that searches related to white supremacy in the United States get directed to a Life After Hate group that provides crisis intervention.

If you are an academic researching white supremacist groups on Facebook, this will completely stuff you.

Most of the social media companies use rubbish AI to block people, with lashings of false positives. Crazy folk just dodge the blocks with their own coded patois.

These companies should have dodged the bullet by shifting to distributed systems (separating themselves from users' content) and offering users the option of implementing their own censorship shields, if they wished, blocking any content they didn't wish to see.

Instead they are choosing to become pan-national censors and will have to do the dirty work of every dictatorship on the planet, whilst being hammered by politicians of all sides for whatever they censor or allow to appear.

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If the right are being censored why do I still hear MTG every time she has some nonsense to complain about?

How are Frank and Parler doing? Changed the face of social media yet?

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People could opt to click on a link to "get support" or simply close the pop-up box.

What the heck is this, online safe spaces for libs?

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What the heck is this, online safe spaces for libs?

A place free from hearing racist morons and bigots is a ‘safe space’? Cool, sign me up.

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If the right are being censored why do I still hear MTG every time she has some nonsense to complain about?

Because the media loves to amplify her and Trump as "bad people" and because outrageous statements get more clicks/views. But, the media wants to filter and selectively edit what people on the right say.

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I’ve never used Facebook in spite of people trying to invite me or encourage me to join. Zuckerburg called people (literally) dumb (words that he said - not me - but cannot be stated) for “trusting me with their data”, his second (and largest) capital infusion came from Q-tel (the CIA) and now this.

Something tells me avoiding Facebook was a wise choice.

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Bob FosseToday  09:34 am JST

What the heck is this, online safe spaces for libs?

A place free from hearing racist morons and bigots is a ‘safe space’? Cool, sign me up.

If you want to hang out with cancel culture, critical race theory spouting, divisive dems, good luck. Actually, sounds like lib heaven.

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It’s the same as it’s always been. Don’t like something, avoid it.

‘Lib heaven’? Seems you know more about it than I do. The ‘conservative’ doth protest too much, methinks.

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Who is protesting?

I just saw a rant about racist morons and bigots. So, someone wants to hang out with those people in s safe space--to each his own.

Interesting--I never considered myself a conservative. But I thought all Americans inherently are against censorship.

Unless that censors their opinions ('their' is the operative word for libs).

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Interesting--I never considered myself a conservative. But I thought all Americans inherently are against censorship.

That’s why I said ‘conservative’.

I’ve never labeled myself anything but you seem quite content to label everyone who uses Facebook ‘libs’.

I get called a lib on here a lot. Usually by people who don’t like what I’m saying.

Seems strange to me.

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Lol. Where are the regular people?

Everyone is sooo angry and yet have the skin of a wet tissue.

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But I thought all Americans inherently are against censorship.

I can’t speak for Americans, I’m not one. Wouldn’t presume to guess your nationality.

But if you think all Americans are inherently against censorship you haven’t been following history. It’s quite the opposite.

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The best solution is to simply get off of FB and other SMS, which are playgrounds for trolls and conspiracy theorists...

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FB is BS.No doubt.

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Bob FosseToday  10:56 am JST

I’ve never labeled myself anything but you seem quite content to label everyone who uses Facebook ‘libs’.

No clue how that conclusion came about.

Only people who use the below:

"Redirect Initiative" features are intended to route people using hate- or violence-related search terms toward resources, education or outreach groups aimed at more harmonious outcomes, according to Facebook.

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Sounds like a new software from Pyongyang or Beijing. lol

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Where is Voltaire when you need him!?

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We need some modern day Voltaires and Beatrice Halls to save us from the Big Tech insanity!

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In other words, as the Commies within U.S. government, media, academia, Hollywood, Big Tech, etc. resume efforts to destroy America, report anyone objecting to it.

Ah, OK.

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So, it is OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but it is not OK for a social media organization to object to hatred and lies being spread on its platform? Got it.

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So, it is OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but it is not OK for a social media organization to object to hatred and lies being spread on its platform? Got it.

When you look at it that way, there is no consistency. To get consistency, you have to see it the way right-wingers do:

"It's ok for a baker to refuse to make gay people a wedding cake, because I don't think homosexuality is right."

"It's not ok for a social media organization to object to hatred and lies being spread on its platform, because I don't think that's right."

That's how consistency works in their bubble.

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StrangerlandToday  02:28 am JST

So, it is OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but it is not OK for a social media organization to object to hatred and lies being spread on its platform? Got it.

The baker is an individual, and being forced to bake the cake would violate his right of free expression and religious beliefs

That's the way it is in the USA. Simple approach to individual freedom.

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So you can't have your FB cake and eat it?

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asking people whether they think friends are becoming extremists

Didn't the KGB urge citizens to turn in their friends?

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zichiToday  07:35 am JST

So you can't have your FB cake and eat it?

I give credit where it's due--that was a good one.

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The baker is an individual, and being forced to bake the cake would violate his right of free expression and religious b

This applies to corporations in the US.

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P. SmithToday  07:52 am JST

> This applies to corporations in the US.

Not the baker case, because their religious liberty is being protected.

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Not the baker case, because their religious liberty is being protected.

Corporations in the US have the same rights as people.

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P. SmithToday  08:03 am JST

Corporations in the US have the same rights as people.

Not all the rights.

And this Facebook matter does fixate in religious beliefs so it is a different situation than the baker.

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*does not

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Not the baker case, because their religious liberty is being protected.

SCOTUS disagrees:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

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Facebook can do what it wants. I am curious if the standards for what qualifies as "extremism" (whatever that is) gets applied equally to both sides of the political spectrum. Does searching for Antifa or BLM also trigger the same warnings? How about virulent anti-semitism?

Transparency is the key. If "extremist" just means "people we don't like", then this is egregious.

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Because the media loves to amplify her and Trump as "bad people"

Trump/Tucker people will be happy with FB every time an alert comes when the news says PRESIDENT Biden.

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This includes LIBERAL Extremism too, Yes ?

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P. SmithToday  03:10 pm JST

Not the baker case, because their religious liberty is being protected.

SCOTUS disagrees:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

Nope.

And corporations do not have all the constitutional rights as individuals.

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Sounds like a GREAT idea! Now the crazies will know when they are in exactly the RIGHT place...

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Facebook can do what it wants. I am curious if the standards for what qualifies as "extremism" (whatever that is) gets applied equally to both sides of the political spectrum.

Unfortunately the standard is not applied equally to both sides of the spectrum. Left wing posts get removed from the platforms at a rate of 2:1 over right-wing posts. The platforms are clearly biased against left wing opinions.

Which to be fair, left wing extremists are as moronic as the right wing extremists. So I'm not complaining that they get their posts removed. I just think they should stop being biased against left-wing posts more than right-wing posts, they should be scrutinized equally rather than using the current pro-right wing bias.

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StrangerlandToday  05:25 am JST

Unfortunately the standard is not applied equally to both sides of the spectrum. Left wing posts get removed from the platforms at a rate of 2:1 over right-wing posts. The platforms are clearly biased against left wing opinions.

Which to be fair, left wing extremists are as moronic as the right wing extremists. So I'm not complaining that they get their posts removed. I just think they should stop being biased against left-wing posts more than right-wing posts, they should be scrutinized equally rather than using the current pro-right wing bias.

Good points, Maybe there are more moronic left-wing posts? It seems the ME generation is more active on these social platforms.

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