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Nintendo's Mario endures even as games come and go

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“The reason he continues to be so popular is that Mario is basically an everyman,” Steinberg says. “Behind those bushy eyebrows, jolly belly, is gamers themselves. Short, balding, goofy—how many gamers does that describe?”

I hope that was a joke!

Anyway-- yay Mario! I probably won't rush to the store to get the new one when it comes out, but it sounds like a blast.

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hmm.. $50 for the "newest" Mario Bros. or $50 for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2....... really tough choice there. They don't even remotely compare. Mario Bro's to CoD MW2 is like 70's era moped to F22 Stealth Fighter.

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Remember when systems came with a game?

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hmm.. $50 for the "newest" Mario Bros. or $50 for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2....... really tough choice there. They don't even remotely compare. Mario Bro's to CoD MW2 is like 70's era moped to F22 Stealth Fighter.

You're right, there is no comparison at all. Many gamers don't like playing FPS, and there will be another FPS soon to replace COD MW2. WHo plays old FPS games? Mario is classic in a very good sense, people will always play Mario, that's why this retro style game endures.

It's horses for courses, mate - totally different markets.

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The758-- I remember. Now you're lucky if you can buy a system and get everything you need in one box.

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pawatan at 11:34 AM JST - 25th November You're right, there is no comparison at all.

I realize the difference, but it's still just not anywhere near the same level in popularity. I know there is a niche for these classics but it's just that, a small "cult" following.

WHo plays old FPS games?

Counter Strike(PC) remains one of the most popular FPS games to date. Don't forget about the HALO world too.

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I liked space invaders, and then I stopped getting drunk and playing games for little kids. What happened to real play things like art supplies?

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I realize the difference, but it's still just not anywhere near the same level in popularity. I know there is a niche for these classics but it's just that, a small "cult" following.

I don't think any of the Mario games can be described as having a small "cult" following. Take a look at the sales charts for just the recent games:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=mario

Super Mario DS sold almost 20 million copies, Super Mario Galaxy pushing 10 million, Mario Kart Wii also pushing 20m. I don't see that as a 'cult' following, and if it is I want to know what mainstream popularity is!

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I was going to make the same point as pawatan. I'm sure these Mario games outsell games such as COD MW2.

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COD MW2 sold $550 million in the first 5 days. 4.7 mil. copies sold in first 24 hours in the US. Last I saw were estimates of 10 mil. copies sold in the first week. They have easily sold far more than that since it's release 3 weeks ago.

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Mario rules the kids market. My children wont be playing COD for another decade if ever, mario is a household name at my place.

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Evolution of games. One of my favorite FPS games was ... DOOM. Easy controls, simple rules, brutally simple AI. Some of the levels required a very very careful strategy and timing not because the opponents AI was good, but because the designers set them up well. That game. That whole game, was 4 MB. Astonishing.

That is pretty close to the appeal of Mario games. One chooses between Grand Theft Auto or Mario Karts. Smash Brothers or Street Fighter, etc. People want to get away from ultraviolent frightening gory stuff and just have some fun flying around or racing around. They want to kick a few soccer balls or turtles around instead of getting involved in a FIFA franchise. Why save? Just reset... it's Mario, not rocket science.

Once a game gets stressful or when I start "caring about it," I know it is time to stop. It is not a game anymore. Who needs the stress? I am definitely not that bored. From what I understand, online games are anything BUT fun because nobody is having fun anymore. It is all posing and one-upsmanship and derision. There WAS a better time and there WERE better games.

I like Mario because he is my clown. He is stupid, and he smiles WAY too much, but he is not going to make me feel bad about the calluses on my thumbs or do some degrading dance if I fail.

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FPS's haven't evolved since Quake. It's just turn out the same ol' same ol' year after year.

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Quake!! In many ways, it is the anti-Mario! haha When I come home from a day of work, I often ask myself... Do I want to play with Mario? Or do I want to be eviscerated?

There is a comparison though. The controls are easy, and you just reset and do it again. I like Quake.

Has someone made a Mario FPS? Now there is a winner. For awhile, people were changing sprites on DOOM to make Barney Doom and Santa Doom. Why not Mario Doom? I guess in some ways Mario Karts is an FPS if you consider the turtles and other gimmicks as "shooting."

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Ahh, the good old days . . . Standing up in some dodgy arcade playing Donkey Kong, Zaxxon, Pengo, Crazy Climber, Moon Patrol etc. Anyone know of an old-school arcade in Tokyo that still has some of the old classics?

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It is the same as the WII vs PS2/XBOX. FPS(PS2/XBOX) are often not family/girlfriend friendly, games like Mario Kart and Mario party are often some of more lively game related fun my wife and I have when we invite friends over. Especially because Mario party is easily turned into a drinking game. That being said guys night usually involves a FPS or hockey.

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RE: societymike and pawatan's discussion:

no one can deny that MW2 has broken sales records during its release, but i highly doubt that anyone will be talking about Sgt. Roach (one of the characters controlled in MW2) in 30 years. mario is an icon, and will continue to be one.

and to call it a "niche" or "cult" following seems disingenuous. mario, in his many iterations, has sold over 200 million units. that is NOT niche.

to be fair, the call of duty series has sold over 50 million in only 6 years, but the saturation level of pc and console gaming has never been as high as in this decade, so it should be expected that good games now (and the call of duty series IS good) should outsell good games of the past.

i personally prefer multi-player FPS games, but overall, mario stands as a cultural icon in a way that the call of duty games will never manage to do.

and, yeah, counterstrike rocks. ;)

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IM selling my wii $610 with many features, included hacked software ;) modded Nintendo Wii, runs dvds, has Guitar Hero World Tour, 9 games, 4 Wiimotes, 2 nunchucks, Guitar, Drums, Microphone, and many other accessories, THNX!

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my wii is still for sale PPPLLLEEE!!!!!

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