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Peter Neil
or a betamax.
“only” 9%? please, generative ai is crap right now.
that’s like saying “only” 9% of people eat wood chips, like they should be eating wood chips.
Newgirlintown
“generative ai is crap right now”, seriously? Seems like you might not have seen what it can do. It’s mind blowing.
John-San
I waited and probably Japanese also did because you can't trust putting USA made software on their person devices. For the Chinese made AI Deepseek and it a wonderful bit of gear. I use it for the first time yesterday wanting to know about what would be the result of student loans under the Trump admin. So my advice is don,t believe the pro USA AI talking heads. China make better AI
virusrex
For most of the application the general public would use it (searching the web, answering questions, writing emails, etc.) there are much better options already that don't "hallucinate" convincing but false results.
The best part is that other tools do not depend completely on stealing content from creators to function, so people don't need to implicitly support the theft.
sakurasuki
Japanese people asking question to generative AI? Japanese people simply will follow what the official told them, that's why Generative AI only used by 9% of Japanese, fax machine is more popular in Japan than generative AI.
John-San
No. I am realist, and I am not educated by Fox News and Disney movies.
I'veSeenFootage
The stuff AI can hallucinate is indeed mind blowing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-04/ai-artificial-intelligence-hallucinations-defamation-chatgpt/104518612
https://futurism.com/ai-chatbot-hallucinations-marriage
Etc.
kappa ko-hi
@Newgirlintown
"Demonstrating yet again that uncritically trusting the output of generative AI is dangerous, attorneys involved in a product liability lawsuit have apologized to the presiding judge for submitting documents that cite non-existent legal cases.... As noted by Judge Rankin, eight of the nine citations in the January motion were pulled from thin air or lead to cases with different names. Pointing to some of the past instances where AI chatbots have hallucinated in legal proceedings over the past few years – Mata v. Avianca, Inc, United States v. Hayes, and United States v. Cohen – the judge's order asks the attorneys who signed the filing to explain why they should not be punished." [TheReg - Lawyers face judge's wrath after AI cites made-up cases in fiery hoverboard lawsuit]
It's a powerful tool. But you can also cut your fingers off.
JeffLee
I personally find that highly ironic. I used to be on Vodafone. After about a year, one of its support staffers examined data showing my phone call and data patterns to recommend the best plan for my needs, ie, an early form of AI application.
Then sadly, Softbank took the carrier, and my bills nearly doubled. When I inquired about switching to a plan was more in line with my usage needs and to offer a recommendation, the Softbank staffer said, "We don't do that anymore." Data anlaysis at the company went right out the window.
kappa ko-hi
@John-san
NowSecure Uncovers Multiple Security and Privacy Flaws in DeepSeek iOS Mobile App
Wiz Research Uncovers Exposed DeepSeek Database Leaking Sensitive Information, Including Chat History
If you get their open sourced sofware frok hugging face and run it on your own GPU's you are fine. But interfacing with their App is not a great idea for personal security and privacy. For anything actually sensitive or business related, the App is toxic.
Aidan Blest
How "mind blowing" something is or isn't is directly related to one's own baseline understanding of the tech. Generative AI IS crap right now. Yes it can do amazing things but 1, its output cannot be trusted (it isn't always right), 2, people generally aren't able to apply basic rules when interpreting its output (Chat GPT said so so it must be right right?) - much in the same way people don't / can't apply basic media literacy skills to what they read on line "if someone said it it must be true....". AI has a promising future (maybe) but unless people are also skilled up on how to use it and what its limitations are then it will in the long run just turn out like social media (a great tool but useless due to all of the "noise" on it, mis-information etc. Just remember AI is running out of material to train on and given that it has been trained on scholarly material and at the same time troves of reddit / x posts how intelligent can it really get? Just remember there are a lot more un-educated people out there than not and if that is AI's "average" data collection point I say no more.
dbsaiya
Regarding the hallucinations. Always verify. I mainly use Chat GPT and Deep Seek, but always check against Copilot and Gemini, and also common sense web searching. Regarding Deep Seek. Just my opinion. Just more anti-Chinese hysteria coming from the west. What do you think Google, Amazon and other tech companies do with your private information, even worse - now D.O.G.E. and Musk have it. When the game Wukong came out of China last year, there were several gaming reviews that bashed it. They couldn't handle the fact that something like this could come out of China. Real gamers were excited. For me I just thought さすが中国. As for Japan and AI use by the work force by the time they get around to it, it will be too late. The train is about to leave the station. They're waiting on a home grown LLM.
TokyoLiving
Well said!!..
Beautiful!!..
Chabbawanga
Haha. This made me spit out my coffee
isabelle
The word "made" is extremely misleading here.
What appears to have happened is that DeepSeek used OpenAI's work in violation of the terms of service. Looks like typical China theft to me.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-and-open-ai-investigate-whether-deepseek-illicitly-obtained-data-from-chatgpt
https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/deepseek-just-insisted-its-chatgpt-and-i-think-thats-all-the-proof-i-need
isabelle
It's not "anti-Chinese hysteria" to point out stealing (above) and censorship (below).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2025/01/27/does-deepseek-censor-its-answers-we-asked-5-questions-on-sensitive-china-topics/
https://thediplomat.com/2025/01/why-deepseek-presents-serious-problems-for-china-researchers/
The reviews I saw said it was a good game, but people rightly denounced the censorship.
...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvyre936zvo
Other topics designated as “Don'ts” in the document, which has been widely shared on social media and YouTube, included politics, Covid-19, and China’s video game industry policies.
The directive, which was sent out by co-publisher Hero Games, has stoked controversy outside China.
Multiple content creators refused to review the game, claiming its developers were trying to censor discussion and stifle freedom of speech.
Others chose to directly defy the warnings.
One creator with the username Moonmoon launched a Twitch stream of Black Myth titled "Covid-19 Isolation Taiwan (Is a Real Country) Feminism Propaganda". Another streamer, Rui Zhong, discussed China’s one-child policy on camera while playing the game.
grc
Japan isn’t ’grappling’ with its population problem, it’s simply suffering from it
Kazuaki Shimazaki
@isabelleToday 11:21 am JST
Considering that real, human Chinese would be very hesitant to answer those questions and be extremely careful if they did DeepSeek is accurately following human behavior.
Also, it's not like ChatGPT cannot be very evasive on certain topics.
https://strangelove.quora.com/A-Joke-About-France-ChatGPT-vs-DeepSeek
iron man
Are any of us really allowed to know where the intelligence data is sourced from. DeepEEK copies from GPchat, but uses Ai???., Wopilot steals it from Whoogle. I recall a post above that cross checks between them all. What a brave person. I examined Wopilot in some 'copied and saved' excel workbooks. No thank you! pretty nicely presented but no meaning whatsoever. Especially when it thru up Tesla as a prime investment vehicle. Methinks too much politics involved. Thanks for the comment Isabelle, but is the stealing and censorship being done only by the PRC? CCP Bash, or manipulative brain washing?? by the money makers.
I admired betamax, then VCR came along, then CD to DVD's to addictive streaming. it's all about sales. What is causing food inflation. All related if you study Keynesian economics (sorry Mr Musk)
isabelle
DeepSeek is accurately following CCP propaganda, not "human behavior."
Those outside the CCP's power/influence certainly do not exhibit such behavior.
No, and I never said it was.
virusrex
The people that use a tool prefer for this tool to be accurate, not what they can mimic. Is like having a hammer that is only as hard as a human hand.
justsomeguy8008
Anyone saying generative AI is "crap" because of hallucinations obviously don't keep up with the ever changing landscape of AI.
There is specific AI for specific tasks and then there are general AI like for instance chatgpt. But just because you don't know how to use something doesn't make it "crap"
People are saying this because it hallucinations, but 1 it's getting better and hallucinates less and less and 2 you should question everything anyone says and not take everything at face value. I remember how people would just take something someone would say at face value not too long ago as gospel just because someone they respected said it when in fact they were either lying or just repeating something else someone else told them.
I wish Japan would work towards building their own AI on japanese data sets. They need an AI that is catered to japanese people and how they think and talk. Right now American and Chinese AI still lacks a lot of nuanced things when it comes to Japanese.
Sven Asai
There is finally no real difference between using it or not using it. You can extensively use 'AI', then you get fast results which are true or not and then have to verify each of the results and compare it with own knowledge or other conventional sources or methods if those exist, to find out if it was true what 'AI' told you, which all decreases again the former effectiveness dramatically to the same level as if you had no AI available. Or you just don't use AI, then you get no AI results and slowly have to find answers in your own knowledge or other available sources or methods if those should exist. The 9% are not better, more intelligent or more effective than the 91%, only the method of finding an answer is different.
lostrune2
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/28/we-tried-out-deepseek-it-works-well-until-we-asked-it-about-tiananmen-square-and-taiwan
Clearly, the Chinese AI knows what it's talking about
diobrando
No need if you want to keep safe and clean brain...
Speed
I use it every day to calculate my nutritional breakdown of all my meals. Not always 100% accurate but pretty damn close.
Helps keep my sodium, sugar, phosphorus, potassium, cholesterol, fats, carbohydrates, fiber, proteins, calcium and calories under control and within a healthy range.