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Samsung sells 30 mil Galaxy S III smartphones worldwide

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Wow! Apple vs Samsung??!!

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Samsung s3 is much better than any Apple phone but i wonder what Panasonic and Sony are doing in the meanwhile! Wake up Japanese manufacturers!!!

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It's a really great phone

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panasonic sold 3, sony sold 10 and sharp sold 0

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Dialogtus: I agree. I've used my friends' Non-apple non-samsunng smartphones and they are TERRIBLE! For example: the Regza (toshiba) model (often sold in matte maroon color) is difficult to navigate between programs and the screen is less responsive (you have to really peck at the screen). Forget copy/pasting a number, that's not available in many cases. Switching between keyboards is difficult because the default keyboard? It's the telephone number matrix w 3 letters per key! Not qwerty... Unless you cycle to the keyboard. she's Japanese and says "never again"- switching to apple/Samsung.

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The company sold 56.3 million smartphones, including its flagship S III, in July-September, representing 31.3% of the global market, more than twice as much as bitter rival Apple’s share, research firm IDC said last month.

The consumer has spoken. Apple are now meh.

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Now I realize its easier for Japanese to type on phone keyboards so that's always the j-os default. But my original point is that Japanese smartphones are often simply the feature-phone os dumped into a smartphone without adjustments to leverage smartphones capabilities. As sams/apple have

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Yup, mentioned this before. Interestingly, Android and Windows Phone rose, Apple was flat, and RIM fell. Considering that the smartphone market increased a good amount, looks like apple has peaked at just 14% sales, probably less in terms of actual marketshares since owners have to upgrade even if they don't need new hardware (i.e. new ios is needed for apps, but can't install it on their 2 year old device)

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iPhone sales in the third quarter may have been as low as 21 million or as high as 32.3 million, according to a bevy of analysts surveyed by Fortune. Apple sold more than 5 million new iPhones in the first weekend alone.

The problem with updating all phones is when they are tied into contracts.

The Windows phone, hehehehe! 2% of the market?

Apple expects to sell 200 million iphones in 2013.

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I see some people using SIII, they're the ones who can't buy Apple machinery. So, it makes sense to them to buy an Android to plug in their Windows computer. Clearly, my acquaintances who have money and some culture, you don't see them with Androids. But you see their employees using them. In my BF's business, SIII are used by entry-level employees. They have money, but no good information. They're stuck in the Windows world.

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The iPhone 4 can be updated to iOS 6 but not all the features will be available but performance and battery is improved.

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like LostinNagoya sez, the SIII is like affordable McDonalds for the average consumer. I'll take the filet mignon iPhone, thank you.

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iphones are absolutely garbage and their fans love to tout them as the only thing that matters even when numbers like those in the article clearly show that they slipping in the market share.

Apple will never see it's larger growth again, since analysts had expected 10 million devices sold first weekend when they predicted that it could sell a fifth of a billion devices over the course of a year. Instead, all the customers just upgraded their phones and other devices because absolutely nothing changed.

Android on the other hand has evolved quite a bit between 2.4 and 4.0, as have the handsets. You see not only huge speed increases, but also better battery life, better screens, and even true worldwide talk and surf capability only found in Android (certain models, mainly flagship) and Windows Phone 8 (flagship models)

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Galaxy S III smartphone will out sell the Windows phone by a big margin. All our young students have iPhones these days and if I mention the Windows phone they just give me a strange look.

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What is happening with Sony? I can't believe that they can't use robots in their factory to low production costs and make better mobiles.

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iphones are absolutely garbage and their fans love to tout them as the only thing that matters even when numbers like those in the article clearly show that they slipping in the market share.

Apple will never see it's larger growth again, since analysts had expected 10 million devices sold first weekend when they predicted that it could sell a fifth of a billion devices over the course of a year. Instead, all the customers just upgraded their phones and other devices because absolutely nothing changed.

Android on the other hand has evolved quite a bit between 2.4 and 4.0, as have the handsets. You see not only huge speed increases, but also better battery life, better screens, and even true worldwide talk and surf capability only found in Android (certain models, mainly flagship) and Windows Phone 8 (flagship models)

Apple iPhones are generally accepted as the creme de la creme of smartphones and sell in the largest numbers by far everywhere in the world. Quite frankly after playing around with a GalaxyIII the other day, I don't know how anyone in their right mind would choose that over an iPhone. Soooo uncool...

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Apple iPhones are generally accepted as the creme de la creme of smartphones

They're really not. The Iphone 5 is seen as playing catch up with Android models released months ago.

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iPhones do look sexy on the outside. A nicely designed package. But as far as the screen resolution and operating system go, Samsung outperforms them. IMHO.

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Grown men squabbling over silly little gadgets.

Keep it up fellas... it's always very entertaining...

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Apple iPhones ...sell in the largest numbers by far everywhere in the world.

The article states:

its flagship S III, in July-September, representing 31.3% of the global market, more than twice as much as bitter rival Apple’s share, research firm IDC said last month.

This means that iphones are not only #2, but VERY FAR BEHIND IN SALES COMPARED TO SAMSUNG!

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I don't know basroil, numbers are easy to fudge, but theres no denying Apple is the most respected company on the planet with the iPhone the most sought-after smartphone. If you are OK with the MacDonald's- like SIII, then good for you. For those consumers who want quality over quantity, the iPhone is the only way to go!

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Apple users: First it was apple is better, next it is apple has more users, next it is apple has more activiations, next it is apple has more apps, next it is apple has the better screen, now it is apple is cooler?

Apple used to be all those things... the competition caught up and overtook, apple is now playing catch up. Apple users have spent so much money on their upgrades and new models they have to defend their high price purchases for fear of looking stupid.

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gogogo - was, and is, better. Playing catch up against Samsung, which has admitted stealing Apple patents? Nope. In fact, Samsung should be thanking Apple for being the biggest reason for whatever success it has. Anyway, I don't care about a companys success one way or another, I do know this though, nothing compares to the coolness of an iPhone!

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iPhone and Galaxy cost about the same. They're both premium quality smartphones. Many people here are in denial - Galaxy users who don't see that Apple is still ahead in overall environment even if no longer in hardware, and iPhone users who can't see that competition has caught up in quality like the Big 3 when the Japanese carmakers finally caught up in the 80's.

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hoserfellaNov. 05, 2012 - 02:54PM JST

I don't know basroil, numbers are easy to fudge,

If you were talking about 3-4% maybe, but double? That's not fudgable, especially not from IDC.

but theres no denying Apple is the most respected company on the planet

Revenue wise, Apple's all the way down at 17 on Fortune 500's list when it was last updated. The BRAND recognition is high (ipod, ipad, iphone, iETC), but company (aside from overvalued stock) isn't really that great.

Samsung is known for each one of it's products, the galaxy series is pretty well talked about by everyone by name. Apple just has "hey, you heard about the new iphone?" as if they are all the same, because to the average consumer they are. Samsung actually has several types of phones for all markets, so they are building company and device recognition rather than brand recognition, which in the end will help them out no matter what OS they use (galaxy phone using Android or Windows would be a galaxy phone, iphone with anything but ios would be a lost brand)

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There was a question on this forum a while back which asked why the big Japanese electronic firms aren't able to compete in the market. The answer is lack of innovation. Apple marketed and created innovation many years ago. Now, like when they nearly failed a decade or two ago, their innovation has flat-lined and by re-packaging the same old hardware and charging an arm and a leg for their products is not in the consumers best interest. Other companies are leading the way to continue the innovation. I have an ipad and an itouch, but not seeing anything new from Apple in a while, I will take a stroll to the Samsung/competitors kiosk to see what all the hype is.

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Basroil - that's exactly what you don't get. Brand recognition is by far the most important qualifier to a business. Samsung making a 100 different phones means they will take 100 times longer to get it right unlike Apple which makes one phone and one phone only.

I didn't think the iPhone could get any cooler than the iPhone 4 but Apple shocked the world twice more.

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hoserfellaNov. 05, 2012 - 03:37PM JST

that's exactly what you don't get. Brand recognition is by far the most important qualifier to a business.

Not really, Walmart is just #15 in terms of recognition but #1/2 in terms of revenues, and Berkshire Hathaway isn't even in the top 100 but still commands 50% more revenue. Brand recognition is important, and in Apple's case is 100% of their business strategy, but is not a requirement. Samsung's strategy isn't so much showing you their phones are "the" phone, rather that their phones are good for everyone.

wavelengthNov. 05, 2012 - 03:27PM JST

There was a question on this forum a while back which asked why the big Japanese electronic firms aren't able to compete in the market.

Answer is: Japanese phones are too Japanified. Phone design is centered around things like IrDA, NFC (japan only variety), 1seg, and the ridiculous company only power connectors.

Android has changed a lot of things, allowing a good deal of the japanese carrier demanded features to be ported to smartphones. While Sony has made some progress into the international markets, other companies with great phones like Sharp and Toshiba simply ignore the external markets. That is why companies like Samsung are making headway even in Japan.

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/430254/why_japanese_smartphones_never_went_global/

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If you have previously owned an iPhone and are accustomed to syncing your phone with iTunes and using the interface (without first jailbreaking the iPhone), you are going to want to stick with the iPhone. If on the other hand, you are after a phone where you will need to enter your gmail account details into the phone to have your email and all other features setup, go with the Galaxy S. This is to date probably the best Android phone on the market. I have been using the Android OS for the last 18 months and found it to be incredibly easy to use. Useless apps on phones are usually put there by the carrier. The Galaxy S will have all firmware upgrades applied when they are released by Google and your carrier, it is also fully supported online. Firmware upgrades and support for Android is not dependant on Samsung. The Android OS is fully customisable without first Jailbreaking. Even if Samsung change to their Bada OS, Android is still supported. By the way, Android is open source and does not have any proprietary protocols etc. like Apple do. My decision in the end is to stick with the Android OS, this leaves me a choice of the hardware to acquire. If I went with Apple I would have only one choice, which according to the reviews has signal issues that can only be resolved with a bumper case. Again, it comes down to the individual, if you have an iPhone and like the way it works, stick to it. I know people who have changed to Galaxy S. If you like to have a bit more freedom with your mobile and feel a little adventurous about what you want your mobile to do, you may want to consider the Galaxy S.

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Apple which makes one phone and one phone only.

One size does not fit all. That's the mistake Microsoft made with past Windows (when they tried making it an everything for everybody, ergo bloatware), and Apple realized when they made iPad -> mini-iPad. Having too many choices is bad too, so the trick is finding the happy balance.

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Docomo has never failed me as my sole keitai carrier. The I-Touch has never failed me as my toy. I'm happy with both :)

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it used to be "apples and oranges." now i guess it's "Apple and Samsung."

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Bluebris

They're really not. The Iphone 5 is seen as playing catch up with Android models released months ago.

It's not. The Android models released months ago are clunky in comparison to the iPhone 5.

basroil

The article states:

its flagship S III, in July-September, representing 31.3% of the global market, more than twice as much as bitter rival Apple’s share, research firm IDC said last month.

This means that iphones are not only #2, but VERY FAR BEHIND IN SALES COMPARED TO SAMSUNG!

In July - September market when the S III was just released and the iPhone 5 was going to be released at the end of September. Well absolutely no surprise there, Einstein!

Let's check the end of Q4. And I'd be interested to see numbers of both Galaxy S III and iPhone 5 by that time. My guess is that iPhone 5 will surpass S III by end of Q4 or during Q1.

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Samsung > iphone

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Galaxy S III rocks upgraded from the Galaxy S I. Just got the Galaxy Note 10.1 last week too. No more pen and paper meetings. Both eat apples.

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Samsung SIII, Note II>>>>>>>iPhone4S,5 My next smartphone will be a Samsung.

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2020hindsightsNov. 05, 2012 - 05:15PM JST

In July - September market when the S III was just released and the iPhone 5 was going to be released at the end of September.

Samsung doesn't have explosive products, they have stable ones. Samsung share doesn't matter when it's taken, it's about the same. Surprisingly, Apple's almost the same, overall marketshare of ALL products pretty much ignores new releases, since few first time buyers are going to wait in lines.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-and-samsung-just-revealed-their-exact-us-sales-figures-for-the-first-ever-time-2012-8

That should show you that even if apple managed to double their sales it would still fall short of the 30 million sIII alone, not to mention the other half dozen models samsung has, each of them with significant sales.

Well absolutely no surprise there, Einstein!

I wonder why the mods haven't deleted your post yet for clearly being impolite to another user.

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Foxy, great comments but since I already have an Iphone, and am still trying to learn how to use it, I will keep banging away with my Iphone before I get to fancy with Galaxy etc..have fun up there in the great white north, I hope it is not too cold, your amigo having fun with the Apple Iphone, down in Tokyo!

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Elbuda MexicanoNov. 05, 2012 - 10:58PM JST

I already have an Iphone, and am still trying to learn how to use it,

I thought the entire fanboy theory was that iOS was easier than Android or WP8. Guess that's one more reason to get an SIII, cheaper, faster, AND no harder to use!

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Galaxy S III was the best phone on the market, but it's been overtaken by quite a few others (Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx HD, LG Optimus G, Google Nexus 4, etc.). Even the Sharp Aquos Xx Zeta has higher specs.

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I upgraded to an S3 when I saw that the iphone 5 was pretty much garbage. I will say that I'm liking my S3 more than my old iphone 4.

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No microSD slot, not getting my business. I like to save money and buy less storage, then simply add more storage once. Then when I get a new phone, I simply transfer the storage over. Paying $100+ for more storage every single time a new model phone comes out, no thanks.

@2020hindsights Android phones released months ago feel clunky compared to iPhone 5? How exactly are they clunky? Clunky doesn't exactly tell me much.

Been on Android since the beginning. Worked great when they released. Work great now. Will work great in the future. Nothing about iOS is going to be absolutely spectacular, when compared to Android. Unless it's user data tracking through Siri.

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The recipe is very simple;

1- Wait your competitor to develop a new technology or solution.

2- After,copy everything,without complying with rules or patents.

3- Take advantage slave labor and currency artificially low and selling the mediocre product as the release state-of-art technology,of course,with budget billionaire in publicity.

Is ready the recipe, thousands of consumers bought this cheap imitation of the apple. Oh yeah, do not forget to put a very large photo of Mount Fuji, or a sumo wrestler,to lead the consumer to think that is consuming a japanese genuine product.

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viva android

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1- Wait your competitor to develop a new technology or solution.

2- After,copy everything,without complying with rules or patents.

3- Take advantage slave labor and currency artificially low and selling the mediocre product as the release state-of-art technology,of course,with budget billionaire in publicity.

1-Use technology developed by others and brand it as your own revolutionary design

2-Then patent the crap out of it

3-Take advantage slave labor and currency artificially low and selling the mediocre product as the release state-of-art technology,of course,with budget billionaire in publicity.

Brand it as a true American product

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Basroil

Samsung doesn't have explosive products, they have stable ones. Samsung share doesn't matter when it's taken, it's about the same. Surprisingly, Apple's almost the same, overall marketshare of ALL products pretty much ignores new releases, since few first time buyers are going to wait in lines.

Wrong. Check the quarterly statistics and correlate with product releases and read some analysts reports. Quarterly sales figures correlate totally with product releases for both Apple and Samsung.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-and-samsung-just-revealed-their-exact-us-sales-figures-for-the-first-ever-time-2012-8

That should show you that even if apple managed to double their sales it would still fall short of the 30 million sIII alone, not to mention the other half dozen models samsung has, each of them with significant sales.

Doesn't seem to show that at all. But the bet is still on: either by Q4 end or during Q1 iPhone 5 will exceed 30 million units sold.

KK

Been on Android since the beginning. Worked great when they released. Work great now. Will work great in the future. Nothing about iOS is going to be absolutely spectacular, when compared to Android

Well looks like you've considered both iOS and Android equally and are making an informed and rational decision. But hey, I don't care. If you like your phone and OS, go for it. It's a free world.

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2020hindsightsNov. 06, 2012 - 10:06AM JST

Wrong. Check the quarterly statistics and correlate with product releases and read some analysts reports. Quarterly sales figures correlate totally with product releases for both Apple and Samsung.

Show me your statistical regressions proving that. iPods show quarterly variations, which is a spike before christmas, with all other quarters the same. iPhone doesn't show that, and other than Q2, all other quarters had tended to increase significantly, until iphone 4s that is, probably because by that time people realized there was no difference.

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Show me your statistical regressions proving that.

I would but you don't seem to be interested. I already pointed out that Q2 iPad sales rocketed to 69% market share. This is because of the March release of iPad. Q3 both iPad and iPhone sales figures are down based on new product releases in Sept and Oct. Same in Q3 2011 - iPhone sales low. Q4 high because of 4S release.

all other quarters had tended to increase significantly, until iphone 4s that is, probably because by that time people realized there was no difference.

Stick to the facts. 4S is Apple's best selling iPhone (before the iPhone 5). They sold 33 million iPhone 4S's in Q4 2011 alone. That's more than Galaxy S III's sold so far.

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KK

How exactly are they clunky? Clunky doesn't exactly tell me much.

They are big and have a unstylish plastic body. Clunky.

However, I have heard that Galaxy S III mini will soon be released. Hopefully it's not plastic.

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2020hindsightsNov. 06, 2012 - 11:51AM JST

Stick to the facts. 4S is Apple's best selling iPhone (before the iPhone 5). They sold 33 million iPhone 4S's in Q4 2011 alone. That's more than Galaxy S III's sold so far.

I have been, and more so, have been using APPLE'S "facts". Just because they don't line up with your delusions doesn't mean they aren't true.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-and-samsung-just-revealed-their-exact-us-sales-figures-for-the-first-ever-time-2012-8 (posted again)

This article shows you court documents released by apple which specifically show a decrease quarter after quarter starting in Q4 2011, after the 4s came out. I never stated numbers, rather direction, and the direction was consistently down after release (since apple only released US data, but worldwide numbers can be assumed from US data, except in germany and spain where android is about 80% market share).

Samsung phones have been going up almost constantly, with a slow but steady increase in market penetration.

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They are big and have a unstylish plastic body. Clunky. However, I have heard that Galaxy S III mini will soon be released. Hopefully it's not plastic.

Maybe it's just me, but why was the iPhone to iPhone 3 considered not clunky with their unstylish plastic body? The iPhone was big, compared to what was hot on the market during then too (the original Razr). Or the iPhone 4, where you had to hold the phone all awkward, so it wouldn't lose reception. How about iPhone 5's purple haze? Broken wifi? I mean, that seems pretty clunky.

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Maybe it's just me, but why was the iPhone to iPhone 3 considered not clunky with their unstylish plastic body?

No, I agree completely. Clunky!

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http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-and-samsung-just-revealed-their-exact-us-sales-figures-for-the-first-ever-time-2012-8 (posted again)

This article shows you court documents released by apple which specifically show a decrease quarter after quarter starting in Q4 2011, after the 4s came out.

Maybe I can't read or something - because the biggest line on the whole iPhone graph is 2011 Q4. Take another look. And why are the bars for iPhone so much bigger than the Samsung phones? That is surely wrong (I'm not being sarcastic here).

And the overall direction is up. This also highlights my comments about release schedule and quarterly market share. Product gets released, higher market share, then three quarters easing until next release. Shown so clearly on this graph. Thanks!

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A new product release, doesn't necessarily mean higher market share. Majority of those sales will probably be users upgrading to a different phone. So for those sales, zero market change. From there, you'll have new customers or customers swapping between the different brands, maybe different OS's.

Either way, iOS marketshare is going downhill.

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A new product release, doesn't necessarily mean higher market share. Majority of those sales will probably be users upgrading to a different phone. So for those sales, zero market change. From there, you'll have new customers or customers swapping between the different brands, maybe different OS's.

Either way, iOS marketshare is going downhill.

It depends how you define market share. If people are just replacing their existing phones - usage wouldn't go up. But it is. For Google they make money only on usgae (ad revenue). And here, iOS rules:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=iOS,Android&sample=38

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Either way, iOS marketshare is going downhill.

No, it's steady around 30%, but it hasn't been increasing for a few years now. That means it's only attracting 3 out of 10 new people as the device population increases.

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We were defining marketshare on devices before, but now swapping to usage share. Well users replacing existing phones won't change marketshare.

Usage share doesn't necessarily have anything to do with devices being sold. Even if 0 devices are sold, usage will go up or down. One month, I surf the web more on my device. Next month, I surf less. Either way, that usage only deals with what exactly? Websurfing? I don't have to websurf for Google to make money off Android. Multiple free apps have google ads in them.

@lostrune2

The iPhone has been losing ground since last year. Android started 2011 with around 30%. By the end, they were at 50%. Now, they're around 60%. iPhone steady at 30%? Sure, if that was for the past like month or two. It'll just keep shrinking.

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We were defining marketshare on devices before, but now swapping to usage share.

I agree - it's not such a useful measure - except when talking about Google making money from Android.

Well users replacing existing phones won't change marketshare.

Technically it will. Market share is how much people buy, not how much they have.

I don't have to websurf for Google to make money off Android. Multiple free apps have google ads in them.

Yes and they have to connect to the web to make money for Google. Why do you think Google's share price dropped about 20% in a day a month ago? It's because making money from mobile devices is getting harder (Facebook's share price dropped for the same reason).

Hardware manufacturers make money. Apple makes the most, but margins will narrow of course. They are making hay while the sun shines.

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Marketshare is what currently exists in the market. Let's say the market has 10 people. All own Android. 5 of them buy a new Android phone. There's no market change then. Now of course, if 5 of those 10 people buy an iPhone, then it's now 50/50 iPhone/Android.

Now the market of course gets larger as the products move into new areas. Say you have your original 10 people with a 50/50 split. Now 90 new customers come in and buy phones too, who never had one. 45 buy Android and 45 buy iPhone. Marketshare hasn't changed, but the market is larger.

If marketshare was based solely on how much people buy, Apple's 30-ish% marketshare would drop to almost nothing, everytime they near a new product release.

Google's share price dropped, cause they had lower profits. Lower profits, cause they spent $12 billion on Motorola. That's not to say that ad revenue is dropping, cause it is. Companies don't want to pay as much for ad revenue on mobile devices, as the ads are harder to see on them.

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If marketshare was based solely on how much people buy, Apple's 30-ish% marketshare would drop to almost nothing, everytime they near a new product release.

Actually it is and as you can see it drops near a new product release. Just not to nothing. That's what we are talking about.

Google's share price dropped, cause they had lower profits.

True.

Lower profits, cause they spent $12 billion on Motorola.

False. The market has already factored that in. It's because they don't make money on mobile. Read analyst reports sometime. They explain these things.

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Were he using a true good phone, he would not be challenged on editing the video and would need to say the last paragraph:

"S**tty Android camera "records" vote machine changing vote on Obama to RomneY". It is everywhere:

http://mystateline.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=362892

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Actually it is and as you can see it drops near a new product release. Just not to nothing. That's what we are talking about.

No, it just stays around 30-ish%.

False. The market has already factored that in. It's because they don't make money on mobile. Read analyst reports sometime. They explain these things.

No, the market didn't factor any of that in. I think you need to actually read abou tthe massive Google share drop and how Google had to halt their stock trading.

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The recipe is very simple;

1- Wait your competitor to develop a new technology or solution.

2- After,copy everything,without complying with rules or patents.

3- Take advantage slave labor and currency artificially low and selling the mediocre product as the release state-of-art technology,of course,with budget billionaire in publicity.

Is ready the recipe, thousands of consumers bought this cheap imitation of the apple. Oh yeah, do not forget to put a very large photo of Mount Fuji, or a sumo wrestler,to lead the consumer to think that is consuming a japanese genuine product.

Apple didn't invent anything really, merely made it popular. Much like with their iPad, tablet PCs have been around for a while, they just made it marketable.

Samsung didn't copy anything, simply used a common layout and a few common smart phone features. It was Apple who got lawsuit happy and tried to copyright things like "slide to unlock" and the icon layout of their iOS. You can't copyright common things like that simply in an attempt to bully the competition out of business. But the people have spoken and quite a few prefer the Android.

And apples doesn't do this? Go back to your Apple fansite.
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Apple's lawsuit was mostly about rectangle with rounded corners. Ya, like there wasn't a bajillion and one things that were rectangular with rounded corners. A mattress. Looking at previous convertible tablets. Staring at an old school CRT tv. Portable usb hdds.

Someone needs to reform the US patent office.

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Apple's lawsuit was mostly about rectangle with rounded corners. Ya, like there wasn't a bajillion and one things that were rectangular with rounded corners. A mattress. Looking at previous convertible tablets. Staring at an old school CRT tv. Portable usb hdds.

Someone needs to reform the US patent office.

You need to study a little more before posting nonsense opinions like this. It would be funny if rectangulars would cost billions of dollars. It is much deeper than that, make a search. Reading is free.

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No, it just stays around 30-ish%.

No it doesn't. Stop putting your head into the sand. Check the data. Here is a link:

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-and-samsung-just-revealed-their-exact-us-sales-figures-for-the-first-ever-time-2012-8

No, the market didn't factor any of that in.

Why would you think that a deal that happened 6 months ago would cause a sudden 20% drop in share price. Oh, you bought Motorola Mobile? Wow I didn't know that. Sell, sell, sell.... Yeah right!

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LostinNagoyaNov. 08, 2012 - 05:43AM JST

You need to study a little more before posting nonsense opinions like this. It would be funny if rectangulars would cost billions of dollars. It is much deeper than that, make a search. Reading is free.

I think you need some reading yourself if you think he's joking about that. Apple actually did patent "rectangle with rounded corners" under a design patent.

Stephen JezNov. 08, 2012 - 02:55AM JST

Samsung didn't copy anything,

Technically they did, but they copied the same things apple did, so apple has no right to complain that their ripoff got ripped off.

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