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yipyip

New photos showing Isreal using white phosphorous bombs and I was surprised it was still using them.

> Fake news.

Prove it.

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The use of illegal weapons by Israel is not irrelevant news.

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New photos showing Isreal using white phosphorous bombs and I was surprised it was still using them.

Fake news.

And irrelevant news.

Hamas committed a massacre against Israeli civilians.

Israel can use rainbow colored phosphorous bombs against those murderers for all I care, and for all you should care too.

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The real focus is the Hamas murder of Israeli civilians. The real focus would be on actual crimes against humanity that took place last week in Israel.

There were actual crimes committed by Hamas last week. Civilians were killed. So there was no need for the Israeli military to release AI generated photos of dead babies. Fake propaganda photos that are easily found out doesn't help your cause. Even with a compliant media like we have in the west.

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New photos showing Isreal using white phosphorous bombs and I was surprised it was still using them.

opposition to those does not make any one pro Hamas.

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International law does which Israel is a signature.

Good to see no one here cares about this mythical white phosphorous, as we will let the esoteric international law have its worries.

The real focus is the Hamas murder of Israeli civilians. The real focus would be on actual crimes against humanity that took place last week in Israel.

There is no evidence white phosphorous is coming from Israel's artillery. Does anyone have video proving the artillery comprises any white phosphorous before it is shot from Israel?

Didn't think so.

Don't support Hamas terrorism by trying to redirect the narrative to some mythical white phosphorous unless it is being used to pre-meditatively and without warning murder civilians and intentionally target infants, young boys and girls, families, the elderly and the disabled.

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Nakam

 like white phosphorous from an Israeli artillery piece.

> Who cares about white phosphorous?

International law does which Israel is a signature.

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 like white phosphorous from an Israeli artillery piece.

Who cares about white phosphorous?

There was an unprovoked attack on civilians by a murderous group that needs to be terminated, along with those around them.

Please do not hold back at all Israel.

Anyone complaining about Israel's defending itself is not better than other Hamas supporters,

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The problem is not misinformation. Its people's inability or unwillingness to absorb corrections, plus their tendency to trust certain people and groups, especially governments and media outlets. I suppose you could also throw in the failure to fact check, or do it in an intelligent manner.

Regardless, the misinformation and genuine mistakes individuals make is utterly insignificant compared to concerted government and media troll farms pumping out disinformation like white phosphorous from an Israeli artillery piece.

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kurisupisuOct. 11  11:21 pm JST

This is gaslighting at its best.

Shooting the messenger is not relevant when two opposing sides are massacring each other.

Militant Gazans previously and now the IDF is and will raze Gaza and murder innocent people.

Netanyahu is on the record with his threats to destroy Gaza-no mistake it is and it will occur in the weeks ahead and months ahead.

Nutty Yahoo will now have his chance/excuse to subvert the Knesset and Israeli democracy. He is a rotten bastard who launched diversionary wars during the past few years on Gaza.

But that doesn't excuse Hamas for these atrocities one bit. Now you Israelis and Gazans who did nothing wrong and are stuck between a rock and hard place. It's sickening and sad.

TokyoOldManToday  12:05 am JST

Disinformation is an interesting term these days.

Who decides what is real, what is not ?

Over time, simply using words alone in the reporting of a simple event can be manipulated in many ways in order to portray an entirely different scenario to such a point that all that we can infer is that an event may or may not have occurred.

Governments have been regularly manipulating "news" since time began, as too Politically biased Newspapers. From personal experience Western Christian Religious fanatics can put a spin upon what's written down in the Bible to place a different interpretation upon things such that it questions what you may have been "taught"...

More troubling these days, is the interpretation of events shown upon visual media - which is now subject to having been manipulating using, so called "Deep fake" technology. in essence, you can no longer believe what you see visually on our current 2D media platforms - Internet or, Television. Maybe the next step to counter that, will be for Metaverse-like media to show events in 3D - which would naturally be harder to manipulate without serious compute.... (though not impossible).

That has manifested its ugly head during past 30 odd years when ignorant juvenile scummy blabbermouths like Rubbish Limberger clogged the AM radio (and his type still do today) with made up stories and lies lies LIES. Talking trash about other people, making these stupid ethnic jokes on the air just like that nerd boy you knew in HS who loved to spread gossip about others, thinking he was 'macho and cool'. And during 2016 (and before) there were trolls galore instantly putting up false stories with explicitly racist content in them. And TV? Well, even in the 80s there were 'real life' conspiracy/unsolved mysteries TV shows glorifying violence or at least they had the intent to spook you. And yes, some 'Christians' use Revelations as an excuse and a cop-out for all this. But they're just making excuses.

This is a major reason why I look at JT and other outside sources for news. The US press (Faux News and such) just LOVES to scream atchya all the time in your face. I don't like or need that. Who does?

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The EU are already threatening social media companies for allowing people to share diverse opinions. They should speak to the folks in Beijing. They have some ace software that will fix their problem for them. Works there, and will work in the EU too. Problem sorted.

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Elon doesn’t realize it but all his posts on X bear out that he is a wolf in sheep‘s clothing but more so that he is a closet bigot.

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"an ad revenue sharing program with content creators that researchers say incentivizes engagement instead of accuracy"

Follow the Fox News business model.

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Disinformation is an interesting term these days.

Who decides what is real, what is not ?

Over time, simply using words alone in the reporting of a simple event can be manipulated in many ways in order to portray an entirely different scenario to such a point that all that we can infer is that an event may or may not have occurred.

Governments have been regularly manipulating "news" since time began, as too Politically biased Newspapers. From personal experience Western Christian Religious fanatics can put a spin upon what's written down in the Bible to place a different interpretation upon things such that it questions what you may have been "taught"...

More troubling these days, is the interpretation of events shown upon visual media - which is now subject to having been manipulating using, so called "Deep fake" technology. in essence, you can no longer believe what you see visually on our current 2D media platforms - Internet or, Television. Maybe the next step to counter that, will be for Metaverse-like media to show events in 3D - which would naturally be harder to manipulate without serious compute.... (though not impossible).

Going back to simpler things. The "Tech" Companies that operate Social Media venues, such as the Comments here on "JapanToday", face a huge problem these days, and indeed their Moderators at times, could be accused of filtering discussions based upon their own Personal ideology. In the U.S. such filtering poses a Legal problem due to the constitutional right of freedom of Speech, which could be used to challenge them in Court.

However that right , has these days become Politically antiquated - a person in the 18th Century standing upon a Soap box, spewing out his thoughts upon a matter, reached only a smaller audience than these days, when anything you write, can potentially reach Billions of people....

Elon Musk is often quoted on the BBC, saying that "Free speech is meaningless unless you allow people you don't like to say things you don't like" - which sounds applaudable; though even then, there appears to be limits as to how far that goes:

https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-promised-free-speech-twitter-hes-betrayed-it-again-again-opinion-1794478

Independent smaller media companies can also get into serious difficulty too - look what happened to "InfoWars" after it's founder appeared to push his own ideology upon it's readership :

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/

Freedom of speech ? Even the referenced link above, also is an example of where Political bias comes into play, by it's reference to Donald Trump supporting "Alex Jones"....

We all need to wake up and treat news just like Spam email - not clicking upon the embedded link is just like not believing whole-heartidly everything you've read or seen on the Media. Taking a more holistic view upon the situation will perhaps lead towards a better understanding.

For Brits - the cancellation of the HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester was promoted by the Prime Minister as being an opportunity to better spend that money on other projects that he listed. "Ho-hum"... (I thought at the time)... later on he then acknowledged that those said projects were just examples of "possibilities".... Disinformation exists, everywhere - you just need to think for yourself, and imagine the bigger picture of the event in order to ask the questions - "why", "how", and where will it all end up ?

Initially Look at the events, rather than the so called "detail" at that time; the real "detail" will eventually come out in the end.

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This is gaslighting at its best.

Shooting the messenger is not relevant when two opposing sides are massacring each other.

Militant Gazans previously and now the IDF is and will raze Gaza and murder innocent people.

Netanyahu is on the record with his threats to destroy Gaza-no mistake it is and it will occur in the weeks ahead and months ahead.

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Because of the history of antisemitism and the well-publicized goal of Hamas to eliminate Israel well before social media became the norm, it is not too difficult to understand what is rational and irrational, and what is likely true or not.

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And in the case of X, changes to the platform have utterly shattered what was previously one of its greatest strengths -- monitoring breaking news and helping users separate fact from fiction.

Other platforms are genarlized, but Musk as usual is attacked...standard narrative.. Twitter was never a source any factual news...just a narrative platform.. which is now changing...

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There is only once source of truth....US! -Big Tech, Big Gov, Big Biz.

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