TikTok under pressure as U.S. lawmakers push government ban

Why not ban Tiktok entirely and not just Govt. devices?

Why not ban Tiktok entirely and not just Govt. devices?

Because they don't have that authority.

I still have not heard in detail why America wants to ban TikTok from the end users. Until then, I will use the platform to create award winning dance routines of me all day for that instant approval I need from my peers.

Why not ban Tiktok entirely and not just Govt. devices?

Because Government only can push their fake narratives to Govt employee not people, up until this article was written there is no actual evidence that TikTok really do what their claim.

While US big tech as matter of fact already handing their user data to US government

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/big-tech-needs-to-be-stopped-from-giving-your-data-to-the-goverment-194611525.html

People who really claim TikTok is dangerous mostly boomer generation that never really try to use TikTok, if they really use it then they should know that all you can get is people doing stupid dance and such. No personal information is being acquired, in fact TikTok being approved by Apple Store where they really have strict policy on which data is being acquired. So Government claim still with no proof.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/26/thousands-of-semi-active-apps-could-be-caught-up-in-latest-app-store-purge/

It’s not that TikTok is dangerous, other than the risks associated with the dumbing down of today’s youth. It’s that it has the potential. Come on, it’s Chinese owned. I would worry about their fake narrative more. Is anyone really naive enough to believe that their US division has any semblance of control or autonomy? Probably 99.9% of Ticktok user data is useless for espionage anyway. It’s that .1% Washington is worried about. Overkill? Maybe. But you can understand why western governments are wary.

its simple

dont use and dont care,than dont need to "ban",same thing with twitter or fb.

all same crap.

Because they don't have that authority.

They actually do. India banned it nationwide, for example. But, this is probably a big ask to get ByteDance to sell the platform to a US-based company.

I will use the platform to create award winning dance routines of me all day for that instant approval I need from my peers.

This alone is reason enough to ban it

They actually do. India banned it nationwide, for example. But, this is probably a big ask to get ByteDance to sell the platform to a US-based company.

You really want to make comparison to India? India can do whatever they like in 2016 their PM just show on national TV without prior notification and suddenly announcement that current paper money that most of people have is no longer valid, it need to be exchanged with new one. Try to do that in any other countries, trust on government will be gone.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/what-is-demonetisation-and-why-was-it-done/articleshow/55326862.cms

India also can banned game whatever they don't like for any reason.

https://tech.hindustantimes.com/gaming/news/top-10-gaming-apps-banned-in-india-today-from-garena-free-fire-rise-of-kingdoms-to-conquer-online-71644839479964.html

Cannot trust a word TikTok or the CCP says.

Not just a threat to US national security, a threat to our children's mental and spiritual health.

Cannot trust a word TikTok or the CCP says.

Not just a threat to US national security,

Ok boomer keep blaming on CCP but let's see what the fact really show

See who really does manipulating election, is it Tiktok? No

https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/06/facebook-data-misuse-and-voter-manipulation-back-in-the-frame-with-latest-cambridge-analytica-leaks/

a threat to our children's mental and spiritual health.

US based social media platform know their effect on children and teen but they choose to continue.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739

Tik Tok is nothing but a ticking time bomb. Never trust the chinese!! World over they are becoming pest!

People who really claim TikTok is dangerous mostly boomer generation that never really try to use TikTok, if they really use it then they should know that all you can get is people doing stupid dance and such. No personal information is being acquired,

The idea of TikTok isn't a direct danger to anyone, but since all the engineers who manage the systems, even if they are in the US, are located in mainland China, and the CCP govt there can force any data to be collected at gunpoint, they are effectively an arm of the PLA army, collecting data about our personal tracking devices.

Much of this isn't too important, but location data is extremely important for any enemy to have. Location data has already been used by Russia to track US military on deployments world-wide. While that might not matter to you, it does to Chinese dissidents outside China and every non-Chinese Military person in the world along with anyone who works creating anything related to military hardware or software. Using a geo-fence, because they can access location data, it is easy to figure out who is working at Boeing, SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, BAE, or on any military site world wide. Then check where those people are 12 hrs later and you'll likely have their home address or favorite pub for the "innocent friendly conversations" that humans have all around the world daily.

If you left China, to avoid political arrest, you'd better believe that the CCP wants to know where you are, where you work, and how to apply pressure to get you to return where they can't shut you up.

Those are some of the dangers from TikTok and all Chinese smart-phone apps that have access to location data and more.

Bookface, Apple and Google have the same information, but they have refused to provide it en-masse to the US Govt. See, in the USA, there is rule of law and due process. Part of that is that a judge has to be convinced of probable cause before any data Google/Apple has will be released. In addition, the judge has to have jurisdiction ... which means no data in China will be provided.

Of course, Bookface and Google are banned in China, so that isn't a direct concern. Apple has shown the Chinese govt that it is willing to play along with their govt mandates to have access to the Chinese market. Apple isn't the friend of anyone outside China.

Companies in Hong Kong and Macau also fall under the CCP govt now, so we need the same concerns with those as well.

I've asked to be proven wrong about the CCP demanding access to data controlled by any company in China that shows the company refused successfully. Any company. Please. I'd like to be wrong. I can show where Apple, Google and a number of other companies operating in the US refused govt requests for data.

https://time.com/5765771/apple-fbi-pensacola/

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna48941455

Sometimes the USGovt wins: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jun/01/google-ordered-hand-over-data-fbi - let's be fair.

But not always: https://www.techdirt.com/2018/08/21/fbi-tried-to-get-google-to-turn-over-identifying-info-hundreds-phone-owners/

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Declare TikTok a threat to National Security... which is it, and ban it from all AppStores.

Why not ban Tiktok entirely and not just Govt. devices?

The US Government tried but two courts in separate lawsuits ruled the government didn't have the authority to do so. That left the DoJ to try to find a US firm to buy them and negotiate a deal to make that happen. So far they have been unable to close a deal to make TikTok and is parent Bytedance US owned firms.

I will use the platform to create award winning dance routines of me all day for that instant approval I need from my peers.

This alone is reason enough to ban it

Thank you for putting a smile on my face after a particularly long and tiring day. :)

They actually do. India banned it nationwide, for example. But, this is probably a big ask to get ByteDance to sell the platform to a US-based company.

He is correct. The US tried to ban TikTok but two courts in separate lawsuits ruled the government does not have the authority to do so.

I still have not heard in detail why America wants to ban TikTok from the end users. Until then, I will use the platform to create award winning dance routines of me all day for that instant approval I need from my peers.

Maybe the secret weapon to kill TikTok is to bombard it with an endless stream of mindless, cough cough, "dance routines" until heads in their ministry of whatever that monitors this stuff explode like confetti bombs and ministry employees flee the building screaming "I can't take it any more" in Mandarin. I especially recommend dance routines featuring Winnie the Pooh, Tigger, and company.

Seems some former ByteDance employees were spying for the Chinese Govt on anti-CCP journalists. Hummmm.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/tiktok-fires-4-employees-who-used-internal-data-to-spy-on-journalists/

There doesn't seem to be any limitation for the insecurity of CCP leaders.

DT: I especially recommend dance routines featuring Winnie the Pooh, Tigger, and company.

Those are already blocked by TikTok as mandated in their appropriate use policy. The Chinese govt set the standards. I'm not joking.

Those are already blocked by TikTok as mandated in their appropriate use policy. The Chinese govt set the standards. I'm not joking.

Maybe we could overwhelm their Great Firewall with millions, heck billions, of posts of Winnie the Pooh and other banned topics? Kind of a DDOS attack to overwhelm their filters. So sick of the Chinese trying to control everything.

So I guess I could clarify, the courts ruled the Executive Branch alone could not ban TikTok, but I would bet if Congress did so the courts would have to uphold it. Congress?

Declare TikTok a threat to National Security... which is it, and ban it from all AppStores.

This, the FCC is lobbying Apple and Google to drop it from their app stores.