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Tomorrow's 'Top Gun' might have drone wingman, use AI

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Well, if my ISP is anything to go by - that's pie in the Sky!

I have a 10Gbps link with NTT and it really only gives me 500/1200 Mbps.... which is admittedly better than the 1Gbps link I used to have, that gave me 100/200 Mbps ,... now, the numbers make you think.... Corporate Scam Alert - I think, we, the Public are being ripped off. ISP's are overcharging us, and in a time of recession where we need to worry about costs.... Politicians should take note, and start asking questions.

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And if you're asking yourself, how this applies to the article above.... well, how much data do you think you need to have fed back from a drone in order to achieve a replacement for a Pilot...

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Finally.... Does Japan have anything that nearly matches Farnborough Air Show ?

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Well, if my ISP is anything to go by - that's pie in the Sky!

Your ISP is like two cans connected by a string compared to the connectivity and computing power on an F-35.

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JTC,most drone are fly and forget,with GPS

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JTC,most drone are fly and forget,with GPS

No they aren't Larry. Most drones are controlled by people through a radio link.

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Peter14,the US has enough weapon to last 100 years, cruise missile are drone with explosive

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YrralToday 07:14 pm JST

Peter14,the US has enough weapon to last 100 years, cruise missile are drone with explosive

Enough weapons to last 100 years, yes if they fight nobody. Enough weapons to fight continuously for 100 years, not even close. They would be out of weapons in under a year.

Larry, Missiles are not even close to drones. Never heard of a missile flying back to base and landing as drones do.

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Peter14 who is left to fight

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I saw the opportunity here to take a knock at my local ISP/Carrier - NTT (with whom I'm not happy at).

With which, if you were flying a drone using a Cellular data connection, with, then you may find drop-outs from time to time - something I experience with my mobile phone.

And as to their Marketing Blurb for fixed landline data connections... it's just "make-believe"...

How their "Network" impacts commercial drone's is another question - I really don't know, as I don't have a drone - if the Cellular connection drops, then does the drone simply continue or switch to an AI mode where it seeks a new signal, or does it stop until the battery runs out...

For Military drones, then, I'd hope they'd be using their own RF's and have backup's in case of jamming.... what would be most concerning, is if those drones were to carry out their pre-set mission without human intervention after such a data link loss.... that would be akin to the stuff of the "Terminator Movies".

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I thought the movie was great

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No they aren't Larry. Most drones are controlled by people through a radio link.

The use of AI should make it unnecessary for a human to control the unmanned vehicle be it aerial, surface or waterborn. With the kind of swarming technologies the US and UK have been working on one could release a swarm of small UAS's that could find an enemies units and attack them, and/or simultaneously conduct electronic warfare or maybe even attack with microwave weapons, and the swarm would do so in a concerted, coordinated fashion without humans guiding them.

It is also likely you will soon see tactical jets like the F-35 operating with unmanned jets in a coordinated fashion. This has been tested successfully in the US and the tech is ready to move to a production system as the test program for the XQ-58 Valkyrie concludes successfully.

GPS will not be available in a peer conflict so alternatives to GPS are already being worked on. GPS is too easy to jam and the satellites can be shot down.

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JTC,most drone are fly and forget,with GPS

Nope. The vast majority require often expensive and technically complex control stations to operate the drone. The value most drones bring is their live video feed and other real time sensor information. That means humans sitting at one or more consoles viewing the live data, operating the sensors and controlling the drone. Even the small hand launched ones used by infantry have a ruggedized laptop and hand controller. Some UASs are line of sight control but many require dedicated satellite up-links to control them and send sensor and position information back to the operator.

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A cruise missile has a camera,too see,a gps to guide,a radar to determine height and guidance to get it back on course,no need for a pilot to be in danger

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The Military Industrial Complex, know their days are numbered,when the military re configured old system,the US has enough bomb to last and external,with 300 thousands JDAMS kit for every country to be targeted 1500 times

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Drone wingman designed by Cyberdyne Systems?

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It is also likely you will soon see tactical jets like the F-35 operating with unmanned jets in a coordinated fashion. This has been tested successfully in the US and the tech is ready to move to a production system as the test program for the XQ-58 Valkyrie concludes successfully.

The Boeing MQ-28 Ghost Bat, previously known as the Boeing Airpower Teaming System (ATS) and the Loyal Wingman project, is a stealth, multirole, unmanned aerial vehicle in development by Boeing Australia for the Royal Australian Air Force. It is designed as a force multiplier aircraft capable of flying alongside manned aircraft for support and performing autonomous missions independently using artificial intelligence.

The RAAF initially planned to buy three Airpower Teaming System (ATS) systems, as part of the Loyal Wingman Advanced Development Program (LWADP).[10] The three drones were built at an automated production line in Brisbane, Queensland. The production line is a proof of concept for full-scale production.[5] The order was increased to six with an A$115M contract days after the first flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_MQ-28_Ghost_Bat

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The US has it, testing it and it works. Loose lips sink ships!!!

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A B52 can carry 20 cruise missile at a time,this can do the job of 5 fighter jets ,can strike China Russia and ,NK simultaneously from 1000 miles a way,the US has more cruise missiles ,that can be launch at sea

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Every target is not amenable to destruction with a cruise missile launched from afar and as I said earlier, in a war with a peer or near peer emeny plan on GPS being unavailable. Data links will be jammed too.

Missions like destruction of enemy air defenses require low observable aircraft to fly far into enemy airspace to locate and destroy those air defenses. Locating those air defenses is not something that can be accomplished from stand off ranges. This is a probably major mission for AI equipped UAS's.

Every air launched cruise missile and pretty much every ship launched cruise missile I am familiar with does not have sufficient range to reach every target inside a large nation like the US, Canada, Russia or China an enemy might want to destroy without exposing the launch platform to enemy defenses. At some point you have to cross their borders to attack with aircraft. Most air to surface missiles have ranges on the order of 1000km or less. Those that have greater range require much larger launch platforms that are less numerous and require larger airfields that are usually farther from the combat theater, limiting how many missiles can be fired in a day.

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