U.S. gov't accuses social media giants of 'vast surveillance'

Facts are not accusations. It's a documented fact.

U.S. gov't accuses social media giants of 'vast surveillance'

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yes and no.

The government has an obligation to the people. Corporations have an obligation to profit. The government leaders were elected. Corporate leaders are promoted by the corporation.

U.S. gov't accuses social media giants of 'vast surveillance'

Pot. Kettle. Black.

The NSA, CIA, etc. don't collect even a tenth of the personal information corporations collect and sell to other parties.

GAFA monitor what we do to make cash and in return we get free services. I'm fine with that. It allows everyone to access tech service, rather than only those who can afford it. It's a system that works. Government intervention will just damage it for everyone.

The state want to monitor every aspect of our lives via the 'shift to digital', and we'll get zip back from them. They just increase our taxes to pay for the costs of the surveillance state infrastructure.

quote: The government has an obligation to the people.

The state do not give a toss about us. We are simply a resource to fund their geopolitical games and provide cash that they can filch for themselves and their chums. If we get too restless, they start a war and cull a percentage of us as cannon fodder, whilst they hide in bunkers.

quote: The NSA, CIA, etc. don't collect even a tenth of the personal information corporations collect and sell to other parties.

They have back doors into all of it. If you don't give them access, they arrest your CEO for 'enabling'.

It's reassuring to know that, in the future, when I misplace my car keys, the allseeing eye will be able to help me find them. I do feel a little guilty that any surveillance of my daily activities would put most AIs to sleep.

I must say, I read this with the amusement of having read hundreds of articles about angry Americans claiming their government is spying on them while at the same time the private corporations in America steal everyone blind and store their data for infinity. I also have enjoyed reading about Edward Snowden who stole from the government and then turned everything over to private companies. He seems to be about as credible as Lucifer giving a sermon in an American church.

Speaking of Lucifer, then there's Trump who had the American legal system hand ever-increasing power to these private corporations while he himself said he distrusted his own appointees and his own military. As an outsider, I find all of this so fantastical that I have to wonder why Hollywood has not made a blockbuster movie about all of this farce. Is that the correct term in English?

I like the tenacity of this lady, dare I say, she's quite a bit of crumpet too.

Is this parody? Is anyone actually surprised?

Every accusation is a confession, but in today's capitalist surveillance society both citizens and consumers are finding themselves caught between a rock and a hard place as the managers turn up the temperature and manufacture consent and conformity to slyly whittle away our rights and freedoms.

and for the U.S. Congress to pass comprehensive federal privacy legislation to limit surveillance of those using such platforms.

And why have they not done it already, they have majority. The same social media put them in power in 2020, now these firms have moved to a more centrist position, zuckerberg infact apologized... and hence the attack...

Looks like Musk buckled in Brazil, Twitter has started to comply with the judges orders, paying the fines, and getting a representative to represent twitter and negotiate with the government on the ban.

Musk was put in his place as he should be. Governments may be intrusive, but their obligation is to the people, while corporation's obligation is to profits for shareholders. And yes conspiracy theorists, we know there are also some corrupt people in the government, we're talking the actual purpose of the government however, that the majority of government people are focused on.

Musk wasn't elected by anyone, and should NEVER have more power than any government, anywhere. Brazil has shown that.

For less surveillance we first need even a lot more of surveillance. Then it is not anymore to handle at all, because of lacking the money, the technological resources and required staff to follow all collected data and issues. There is just noone left for paying and operating in our shrinking, aging, de-industrializing societies, even if they had all the data of the whole planet and universe. Don't fear it, just enjoy it why you still can, as surveillance still can prevent a few crimes or other wrong things. That whole problem isn't a problem. To illustrate, do you think in the future the 80 years old surveillance hobbyist calls the rare 70 years old retired police officer to haunt down a 65 years old drug dealer? Or the few remaining employees of a rare still operated company give much care and engaged work to make you lots of product offers based on your data, which of course only says that you can't buy anything because you only have the average existence minimum pension like anyone else? That is how it will look like and nothing else.

The government has an obligation to the people. Corporations have an obligation to profit. The government leaders were elected. Corporate leaders are promoted by the corporation.

There's something called the Constitution. The US government should NEVER be spying on it's citizens. But they did and still do, in conjunction with the very tech companies they are now accusing of spying.

Snowden is living in exile in Russia because he exposed the NSA XKeyscore mass surveillance programme. And it continues today with impunity. Pegasus and all other mass surveillance programmes should be shut down NOW.

But people don't seem to value their right to privacy or anonymity anymore. They're more interested in Donald Trump cat memes. And the corporate media is implicit in it.

There's something called the Constitution. The US government should NEVER be spying on it's citizens. But they did and still do, in conjunction with the very tech companies they are now accusing of spying.

Snowden is living in exile in Russia because he exposed the NSA XKeyscore mass surveillance programme. And it continues today with impunity. Pegasus and all other mass surveillance programmes should be shut down NOW.

I agree with all of that. I am very anti-government intrusion. But, the other side of the coin, which is what centrists and old-school right-wingers recognize, is that they are generally doing it to keep the people safe, as their mandate is to the people. Corporations will NEVER have a mandate to the people, as they are legally obligated to place their first interest in investor profits.

But people don't seem to value their right to privacy or anonymity anymore. They're more interested in Donald Trump cat memes.

Yes. People are stupid, there is no doubt about that. Which is why governments, who have a mandate to protect the people, should protect the people from corporations who have a mandate to profit.