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We’ve been here before: AI promised humanlike machines – in 1958

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By Danielle Williams

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The currently best article on this whole topic so far. I personally of course consistently get thumbs down and harsh responses when writing similar comments or statements. So it can't helped much when you don't listen to me. But still I would like to emphasize my recommendation to consider and trying to fully understand what has been said above by another of the official academic experts.

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Yup you and ur posts immediately came to mind upon reading the title.

Though iirc your assertion is bleaker or rather your assertion was bleak while this article merely informs the bleak state of affairs.

Anyway still hoping for cites on, again iirc, I think you alluded to a mathematical proof /basis as early as the 1940s on why all efforts re this field are destined to be a failure.

But even if that wall indeed exist enterprising minds would continue to try to break thru. Many undoubtedly think they cam brute force through with sheer computing power

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It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with only primary consciousness will probably have to come first.

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