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Pity no anti virus software seems to work with W10 at the moment.

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Windows 10 spreads to more than 75 million devices

Is it a virus?

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How do you think they got all those users to install Windows 10 so quickly when that never happened for Win7 or 8 or 8.1?!?

Anyone who blindly let Windows 7 or 8 do automatic updates is in for quite a shock when they find out that Windows 10 will NOT allow you to choose anymore on when updates are done. Unless you have an Enterprise version of Windows 10 you will have your device updated when M$ says so and as in the past, if that update just so happens to be 'broken' so will your device until M$ can quickly release an updated patch to fix their broken patch or update.

For those that are enjoying that bliss of ignorance, keep doing as you did before and if you've been lucky, then buy lottery tickets more often.

I have worked in the IT field for the last 23+ years and have seen just about everything. Of the 14 devices I currently own that run windows, NONE of them will be updated to Windows 10 until I see at work with the 1850+ users currently running Win7, that we have safely tested Win10 in the labs and it has been proven stable which currently it is anything but. Of course as a single or dual device end user, you're probably not even aware of just how badly Win10 spies on you. Nothing to hide? Sure, I've heard that all before but you still don't leave all your mail, pin numbers, medical information, financial information, etc. out on the sidewalk, right?

If M$ has the back door open 24/7, then it's only a matter of their weakest link within that company going rouge and that info goes out onto the web for whatever reason. You did nothing wrong, had no porn on your PC, weren't on some cheaters website but hackers don't care. The M$ back door portal which they claim is for special 'telemetry' is pure BS and nothing more than an open invitation to spy at will, NSA style which by the way M$ and Google readily do already and the main reason for that back door, hence the reason that the 'Enterprise' versions don't have that auto update setting in stone. I too have nothing too hide EXCEPT all my personal information. Makes you think, no?

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75 million guinea pigs for the Enterprise editions! Let the viruses begins!!

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SenseNotSoCommon: "Is it a virus?"

May as well be, since it's probably carrying as many viruses as it is other crap. No doubt a million patches are already in the works as well. More reason to go Apple.

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"How do you think they got all those users to install Windows 10 so quickly when that never happened for Win7 or 8 or 8.1?!?"

Um...because it's free?

"Pity no anti virus software seems to work with W10 at the moment."

Defender/Essentials on my 2 machines running 10 seems to be doing the trick.

"since it's probably carrying as many viruses as it is other crap."

"Probably"? In other words, you don't know. Duly noted.

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Another instance we agree Smith. I gave up on windows a long time ago.

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JeffLee: That is pre-baked in from Microsoft so doesn't count as real protection.

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@SenseNotSoCommon

Windows 10 spreads to more than 75 million devices

Is it a virus?

In the past, the punchline was "No, viruses do something."

@JeffLee

"How do you think they got all those users to install Windows 10 so quickly when that never happened for Win7 or 8 or 8.1?!?"

Um...because it's free?

True enough. It could also be because of the installation method being used (i.e. force it down people's throats).

"Pity no anti virus software seems to work with W10 at the moment."

Defender/Essentials on my 2 machines running 10 seems to be doing the trick.

I tested W10 using BitDefender which did work although W10 complained about it on login. I suspect that this isn't perfect yet but then what do you expect?

"since it's probably carrying as many viruses as it is other crap."

"Probably"? In other words, you don't know. Duly noted.

Does anyone know completely? It's all very well dealing with the viruses that have already been identified but one of the biggest worries is where a virus goes unnoticed and undetected until it has already done something nasty to your data. Obfuscation is one of the biggest obstacles when dealing with a virus. Overall, I think that Bad2DBone has the right of it - this is one monumentally huge beta test.

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Tried 10 for a week..problems too numerous to list here. My advice..give them six months to complete the build [and the consumer to do a lot of research] before trying it...

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My laptop still has Windows Vista and my work PC still runs Win7... so no sign of me being upgraded against my will.

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That is pre-baked in from Microsoft so doesn't count as real protection.

Why is that?

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I am still rueing the day that I agreed to a free download. Windows 10 sucks!

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@gogogo "Pity no anti virus software seems to work with W10 at the moment."

Really? Where did you get that information from? Perhaps you would like to explain why two of my machines (a tower PC that I built from scratch and a Lenovo Yoga 13 hybrid) which are now running Windows 10 are also running my AVG, Zemana Anti-logger, and Malawarebytes with no problems. How is it that my old Lenovo laptop which ran Windows 7 but is now running Windows 10 has its Avast and Spybot all working in perfect order? Finally, my old IBM Thinkpad which also had Windows 7 and nothing but Windows Defender seems to be (and has always been) virus free? Maybe I've just been lucky.

I am glad that I updated all of my machines to Windows 10. The process went quite seamlessly. Aside from having to find a compatible driver for my ancient HP printer, I haven't had any issues at all.

I have always been an early adopter. I remember hearing all kinds of complaints when Microsoft brought out XP and Windows 7, and yet now many users believe those were some of Microsoft's best operating systems. I suspect that Windows 10 will get similar praise as time passes.

For those of you who don't want to upgrade, then don't. No one is forcing you to. Feel free to keep what you have, buy a Mac, or switch to Linux but please don't come on here posting misinformation. No one gets helped by doing this.

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I copied my W7 drive onto another drive and then updated it to W10.

That way i still have my W7 drive which the scanner of my printer/scanner works with.

The scanner part does not work with W10.

Also my AV does not work with W10.

So i will continue using the drive with W7 on it and keep an eye on the W10 to see when the AV and Scannor works on it..

I also did the same with my W8 computer drive.

One other problem i have (others still to find) is i can not dual boot.

Have to go into BIOS to swap boot drive so i can update and test W10 to see if the problems with my AV and Scannor is fixed.

Till W10 is fixed so i can use my current stuff, i will continue using W7 on my computer.

and W8 on my other computer.

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@Azzprin. I thought about doing the same, but after a mouth of using W10, your W7/W8 licences will be no longer valid and W10 will be your only working Windows. I decided not to take the free offer and continued to use my W7 still the next 5 years or until there are some good DX12 games to play. W10 may be good, but W7 is still good enough and I don't want the spying OS, which will force me extra advertisements, uninstall my pirated software, share my porn (if they are on my documents folder), use p2p network to share Windows updates slowing my internet connection and install the newest drivers even if they are incompatible.

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Windows 10 is full of privacy sucking "features." If you've read the license, your computer can turn you into police if it thinks you've done something illegal. By default, it has a keystroke recorder active and appears to send everything to Microsoft every 30 minutes. By default, it sends every search query to microsoft every 30 minutes.

The real issue for me is that some of these elements have been pushed out to Windows 7 and later as "critical updates" - I'm forced to keep track of about 10 updates and remove them over and over and over for the remaining life of Windows7.

Apple isn't much better, sadly.

Ubuntu isn't much better. By default, Canoncial has been sharing all searches with 3rd parties since 12.04 with Unity-lense.

Smart phones are even worse for all this stuff. Do you have a Faraday bag for yours?

I've been moving to debian for all my computers the last 5 yrs. They respect my privacy. Most debian people are even more paranoid than I am, which is good.

Every year, there are fewer and few things I need MSFT for - down to just 2 now and neither need any networking.

Windows10 - not likely. I did run the preview for a few weeks in a lab to see what it did. It really didn't like not being able to connect to the internet to "phone home."

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Not entirely true, a keylogger was present in the technical preview of Windows 10 due the very nature of being a "technical preview". In the live public retail release version of Windows 10, there is no such item, nor is what you say in the license for the live version of windows 10.

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It's always wise to wait awhile before upgrading for the kinks to get ironed out. This works for anything whether OSX, iOS, Linux, Win7, WinXP, etc. (for people who were there when WinXP or Win7 first came out, it's the exact same thing that's happening now - and yet by the end, most people were glad they upgraded - ya just have to let the kinks get ironed out). The free Win10 upgrade will continue to be free till July 2016, so there's time to wait. And if ya have to, ya can go back to your previous Windows and free upgrade again later.

Anyone who blindly let Windows 7 or 8 do automatic updates is in for quite a shock when they find out that Windows 10 will NOT allow you to choose anymore on when updates are done.

This logic doesn't follow - why would someone who blindly lets Windows auto update care that Win10 Home version won't let them choose updates anymore, when they were letting Windows auto update in the first place?

Win10 Pro version still allows to choose which updates, albeit only delay it for 8 months. Win10 Business can choose whatever. But the first people to get these updates are those who volunteer to be in the Insider Program (and there are thousands of 'em), before it's even released to the general public, so people should know what's coming down the pipeline without being surprised.

Anyhow, people don't have to upgrade if they don't want to. Even the free Win10 upgrade is not a forced update - people have to agree to upgrade, and even afterwards, at several points during the download and installation process, they can reverse and cancel it. So people really have to agree to upgrade.

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gogogoAug. 27, 2015 - 01:23PM JST

Pity no anti virus software seems to work with W10 at the moment

Eset NOD32 works fine.

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Norton 360 Virus protection fine with Windows 10. Was 10 compliant just before the roll out.

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dmacleod: Difference between running & certified. Nothing is windows 10 certified, the only one that is is kaspersky but it has so many problems and stops so much working that even the support guys are saying wait to install their product until end of sept when the their next RC comes out and can't explain why they did get the certification in the first place.

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gogogo: Your original post never mentioned anything about anti virus programs having to be "certified." You stated that " . . .no anti virus software seems to work with Windows 10." Well, AVG, Avast, Malawarebytes, Zemana Anti-logger, and Spybot all work very well with Windows 10 (the operative word is "work" here, which was your main concern). Malawarebytes caught several things during a scan last week. I've had no viruses or problems due to malware, trojans, and other disruptive software.

If you are looking for something that Microsoft actually endorses, then you are going to have to use Windows Defender. Windows Defender already contains Microsoft Security Essentials. It works great, and it always has. If you have some actual evidence that it doesn't work and has been problematic, I certainly like to see it.

@Azzprin - you can dual boot with Windows 10. A friend of mine has Windows 7, 8.1., and 10 all on the same HD, so it can be done. There are a number of good sites out there which have screen shots that take you through all of the steps. As far as your scanner goes, that it is not up to Microsoft to fix. That is up to the manufacturer of your scanner. It's their responsibility to support their products and keep them up to date with whatever new OS comes out. Microsoft cannot be expected to write drivers and software for every peripheral device out there. In my case, I have an old HP printer (10 years old). I had to go to HP's website and download the new drivers and software suite for my all-in-one printer/scanner after I upgraded my Windows 7 to 10. HP simply had me download the drivers and software suite for Windows 8.1 because they said it would also work with 10. They were right. Everything is working just fine. Try going to your printer/scanner's site to see if they have updates.

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It's probably carrying as many viruses as it is other crap. No doubt a million patches are already in the works as well. More reason to go Apple.

Where any sane user would be well-advised to treat them with the same degree of suspicion as they do for Microsoft.

In Yosemite (for those who don't spend time in Macworld, the current OS for Apple computers), Spotlight (for those who don't spend time in Macworld, the system-wide search function) reports all searches back to Apple.

You can turn this "feature" off, but the same reporting is done by default for every search you make in Safari, and you have to separately turn that off as well.

http://lifehacker.com/safari-and-spotlight-can-send-data-to-apple-heres-how-1648453540

There are also these:

https://github.com/fix-macosx/yosemite-phone-home

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Microsoft is probably doing "accounting" a la Samsung: they must be counting every search done in Bing as a download of Windows 10. Unreal, simply. Oh, Samsung counts every Galaxy shipped from its factories as "sold", inflating its selling numbers. Even if the device is kept in storage for months, or returned to Samsung.

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Unreal, simply.

Adoption rate is a bit high; about 15 million Win10 upgrades on the first 24 hours of release. But 75 million is actually just a portion of Windows devices; Microsoft aims Win10 to be adopted by 1 billion devices within 3 years. So 75 million really is not that unbelievable in this regard.

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LostInNagoya: Oh, Samsung counts every Galaxy shipped from its factories as "sold", inflating its selling numbers. Even if the device is kept in storage for months, or returned to Samsung.

That's how every manufacturer counts sales. They have no way of knowing how many hit the streets unless every retailer in the world reports their sales back to Samsung, which they would never do. So all a manufacturer can do is report how many it is selling to retailers.

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Funny how no one seems to take this seriously but if you needed more proof about Window 10 and how M$ has pushed W10 spying into W7, W8 and W8.1 too here it is. Don't ignore this because even if you have nothing to hide, it also slows down your PC and internet connection.

http://techne.alaya.net/?p=12499

This is the main reason so many Windows 10 users exist, Windows 10 just upgraded its self.

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