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YouTube updates hate speech guidelines to prohibit videos

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YouTube and other video streaming sites have opened Pandora’s box.

Anyone can post anything without any restraint.

90% of the content is trash, full of ads (yeah, I know, ad blocker).

Time to spend time with something else.

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I have been using YouTube since 2010, and i can honestly say the current management of YouTube is THE worst. YouTube has never been run by such an incompetent team. Ever since that guy Robert Kyncl took the job as the head of the business administration of YouTube, things have went worse on so many levels.

The main problem with YouTube was their "court system". Anyone could've strike down your video, and youTube would automatically shift the monetization from the video into your channel without actually investigating who is right and who is wrong. This was an issue for a very long time. When the new team came about, instead of fixing this system and making it more fair for both sides, and more easy for people to file a complaint against others and more easy to settle disputes, what they did was the opposite, they adopted a policy of micromanaging EVERYTHING in order to prevent an issue from occurring.

Their logic is because they don't have laws, they need to police every household to prevent crime from occurring so people don't need to use the courts in the first place.

It's a massively failed and stupid logic, and it resulted in so many more issues. Innocent channels are constantly shut down and demonetized. Big channels are left untouched while small channels can disappear over night without warning or notification. If you are a small channel, YouTube doesn't care about you. They automatically strike down channels by key words, and it can take up to several months and a lot of effort on your behalf to restore your monetization. People from YouTube team can also subjectively demonetize your channel.

Not to even mention the prevailing double standards everywhere. Big channels like Pewdiepie( who i detest ) can do whatever he wants. He can bully and dehumanize anybody, any group of people he wants, and his army of mindless conforming children love it. You can strike down him 1 million times if you want, youTube doesn't care, but god forbid if a small channel uses the wrong word, and you get shut down instantly.

At the moment, the small guy is powerless and voiceless on YouTube. Rules aren't the same for everybody. The system is incredibly biased and corrupt to its core.

They want to get rid of hate speech, but what is hate speech? For me almost every video of pewdiepie is hate speech, but why isn't youTube shutting him down? They would shut down someone for saying the word "idiot", which isn't remotely offensive, but pewdiepie making a video with over 50 million videos in which he says Indians have poop for brains, that's not hate speech? Of course, that's JUST A JOKE BRO, right? Massive hypocrisy. Never ending double standards and injustice.

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At the moment, the small guy is powerless and voiceless on YouTube.

Then just make your own video network service and call it RightTube, FoxTube, or AlexJonesTube, etc. It's free opensource and can be supported by advertising (Case in point catheters or granny carts for FoxTube). Works for the porn industry. They ain't complaining. YT is a private company and they can do what they want. Move on and build your own video network if you don't like it.

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YouTube has updated its hate speech policies to prohibit videos with white supremacy and neo-Nazi viewpoints.

Yes! Stop giving Nazi scum a platform.

And before anybody starts bemoaning the free speech of Nazis, remember that YouTube is a business, not a governmental entity, and as such are able to send any community standards they wish in this regard.

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YouTube's changes follow moves from Facebook to prohibit not only white supremacy , but also white nationalism and white separatism.

Will YouTube also crack down on channels that promote black separatism?

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Then just make your own video network service and call it RightTube, FoxTube, or AlexJonesTube, etc. It's free opensource and can be supported by advertising (Case in point catheters or granny carts for FoxTube). Works for the porn industry. They ain't complaining. YT is a private company and they can do what they want. Move on and build your own video network if you don't like it.

I don't think he's asking for a special right-wing YouTube - he's saying that YouTube is extremely forgiving to the far right, even when they clearly break YT's rules. And I think he's right. The fact that they had to add in "no Nazis" when they already had - in theory anyway - a rule against hateful content implies that they didn't think Nazism was hateful, which is astonishing.

This started when Vox journalist, YouTuber and all around great guy Carlos Maza made a supercut of Crowder, a hateful bigot, insulting Maza over and over as a "lisping queer" and other such hateful speech.

YouTube had to be tricked into responding on Twitter because contacting them directly wasn’t working for Maza, and then said that they had investigated and decided that singling out one person for homophobic abuse time and again wasn’t abusive behavior, which is both clearly untrue and is something they had a policy against. YT’s policy should have read: “we don’t accept abusive behavior, unless they have lots of subscribers and make us advertiser money, in which case abuse who you like”.

This update was only because they got slammed on Twitter and other websites for putting their profit above the safety of their users. And it’s right for them to be slammed for this. But it’s also the end result of capitalism: the profit motive trumps all.

End abuse. End capitalism.

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This started when Vox journalist, YouTuber and all around great guy Carlos Maza made a supercut of Crowder, a hateful bigot, insulting Maza over and over as a "lisping queer" and other such hateful speech. 

Vox used to be good, but they too, fell into that mainstream propaganda partisan globalist jihad.

This update was only because they got slammed on Twitter and other websites for putting their profit above the safety of their users. And it’s right for them to be slammed for this. But it’s also the end result of capitalism: the profit motive trumps all.

Which is there right as a private company to maximize profits. It is giving the people a product, it’s open platform.

End capitalism.

That will never, never happen.

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Vox used to be good

Then what's good these days?

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Vox used to be good, but they too, fell into that mainstream propaganda partisan globalist jihad.

I need more vegetables in my diet, so thank you for this word salad.

Which is there right as a private company to maximize profits. It is giving the people a product, it’s open platform.

Their stated policies on abuse should have banned Crowder, and others like Sargon, The Golden One, and actual Nazi Styxenhammer666 (a favourite of our own Serrano) long ago. Instead they let their abuse spread. Ben Shapiro's rants have been linked to murders. YouTube is putting people's lives at risk for a buck. And you think that's good. You value money over human life. That is reprehensible.

That will never, never happen.

Well, not with that attitude.

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YT is a private company and they can do what they want. Move on and build your own video network if you don't like it.

Oh, that'll work. And YT's parent company Google will simply make sure that competing network never gets off the ground.

The "private company" gambit is just an excuse that allows governments to outsource censorship and get away with it. Eventually people may wise up and support alternative networks, but most are just too lazy to bother. That allows Google/YT to own the field.

Ben Shapiro's rants have been linked to murders. 

So have coffee, donuts and Skittles - not to mention alcohol. You can "link" a murder to just about anything. This is just an attempt to slander people who some would rather silence than debate..

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This is just an attempt to slander people who some would rather silence than debate

I would rather racists be silenced, yes.

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I would rather racists be silenced, yes.

Well, only certain racists are silenced - others are allowed to flourish, depending on their political alignments. Including the guy who got Crowder banned.

Youtube, Twitter and the lot have immunity from libel laws because they have been recognized as conduits of information, like the telephone. If someone used the telephone to commit a crime, for example, the phone company is not responsible for that. They have no control over the content of conversations.

Youtube is demonstrating that they do have control over the conversations. As such, they should be subject to libel laws like anyone else. Let the flood gates open. Of course there are those who think the phone company should join Youtube and Google in censoring conversations. They are called totalitarian fascists.

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YouTube has updated its hate speech policies to prohibit videos with white supremacy and neo-Nazi viewpoints.

What about all those hate Trump videos?

This is interesting:

Youtube says Stephen Crowder engaged in 'egregious actions that harmed the broader community' with his far-right videos; The Intercept co-founding editor Glenn Greenwald reacts on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86qD8CINGM&t=361s

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What about all those hate Trump videos?

Just don't watch YT. Then create TrumpTube. It's a free world. What's the problem? Are there a lack of smart conservative computer people? Conservatives don't understand computers? Youtube is private and they can do what they want.

Google will simply make sure that competing network never gets off the ground.

WRONG!!!

Works well for the porn industry. It's free opensource technology and anyone can do it. What's the real problem?

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Will YouTube also crack down on channels that promote black separatism?

lol,....What?

Hate speech should be reported and taken down, uploaders banned. But with how much people whine and cry about every little comment or opinion, YouTube will be very busy. Stand up comics might have it rough.

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Oh, that'll work. And YT's parent company Google will simply make sure that competing network never gets off the ground.

Trump people think that Google controls the Internet. NRA made NRA TV (like Youtube) and what happened to that. Just make TrumpTube if you don't like HillaryTube.

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Trump people think that Google controls the Internet. 

Whatever you say. You are not very familiar with how the internet works it seems.

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Trump people think that Google controls the Internet

Har! We know exactly who controls the internet - the guy who invented it - Al Gore!

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You are not very familiar with how the internet works it seems.

YouTube rules and Trump people are the inferior species who can't do anything about it. Ha ha

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“Hate speech” is vague and a term which can mean whatever youtube wants it to mean. There are already existing laws to deal with anyone on youtube (or any website) who defames, slanders or threatens others with physical violence. Everything else is called free speech. Don't like it? Then change channels.

The two services, which allow people to create and upload their own materials, have faced considerable backlash about offensive videos on their services

Being offended is matter of choice. Again, people can refuse to watch or change the YT channel if they don't like something. It's a curious thing though that TV, Hollywood and so on have been showing offensive and violent content for years but for some reason are not subject to the same censorship as certain youtube creators now are.

Getting to truth is the most important thing and it's a slippery slope once free speech gets shut down.

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a guy with a twitter handle @gaywonk

gets upset for being called a "lispy queer".

if LGBTQ is now a normal word

and if someone who self-identifies with that group

speaks with a lisp

with a handle @gaywonk --

is it hateful to call them a "lispy queer"?

This is the type of issue we are dealing with.

One group gets to use the word everywhere all the time

no matter what

and the other group

can't use it at all.

I'm not sure if the very uninteresting people pulling the YouTube

handles know how to pilot through this asteroid belt.

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You don't see any difference in using the term as a pejorative, and using it in reference to one's self?

Maybe you should spend some time figuring out how 'tone' and 'intent' work with language. It would keep issues like this from being so confused.

I really hope you aren't one of those people trying to use the n-word, because black people use it too.

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