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Anti-Semitism resurges in Germany

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It isn't anti-semitism. It's anti Israel and anti-Zionism. Big difference, one is bad but the other is the right way of behaving.

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A ticking time bomb has been present in Germany and other European countries for years.

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The problem is, many of these immigrants don’t and won’t try to assimilate, hate their host country and think they can say and do anything they want with little impunity. So while you shouldn’t generalize any group, history has shown Germany and many other European nations that the Muslim community will spit in the laws and rules of their host country whether immigrant or 2nd-4th generation, their loyalty is to Islam first of their nation regardless of generation.

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Of course, no people should be collectively punished for the wrong-headedness of those who seem to be some kind of representatives of them.

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Israelis get the kind of government they deserve and the hell that go along with it,their only 10 million people in Israel,and they should dictate the term of the world

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Meh, I wouldn't read too much into it.

It's likely mostly Turks, migrants who came during the mid-2010s wave, some crazy Leftist/Socialist types, and maybe a few Alt-Right/Groyper affiliates mixed in.

Germany, unlike France, may yet have a chance to secure it's future, but they really need to double down on deportations, end amnesty, secure the borders, and do not let any more waves of immigrants in. Adopt the Japanese mentality on immigration - there is no becoming German. You either are born German or you aren't.

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Surging in the US also - especially in Red States...

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Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about anti-Semitism in Germany. Nothing could possibly happen there. 'Sall good.

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Germany, unlike France, may yet have a chance to secure it's future, but they really need to double down on deportations, end amnesty, secure the borders, and do not let any more waves of immigrants in.

I completely agree.

*Adopt the Japanese mentality on immigration - there is no becoming German. You either are born German or you aren't.*

Here is where is disagree with you, my mother is German and I have dual citizenship. I feel both German and American even though my residency has changed and I have a home in the U.S. as well as Japan, but when I go back to Germany and visit my mom’s side of the family we celebrate and are act just like any other typical German family, I think that’s the main difference, we embrace our heritage we don’t try and impose our other culture. I think if you are born in any country and show loyalty to that country and adopt the language culture and customs 100% you can be apart of that fabric of your adoptive country, I don’t see any difference. If you don’t assimilate and want to be part of the society you live and you put your religion first then you should leave or be stripped of your citizenship. This is sadly, a huge problem in Germany.

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Israel and Israelis will find antisemitism where it doesn’t exist of course. It’s their ‘get out of jail free’ card. The atrocities they are committing to the Palestinian civilians is inexcusable.

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Speaking against Isreal brutality and genocide of Palestinian is different than antisemitism which is hate of Jews because of their faith or race.

Due to Isreal killing of children, babies there are more people speaking against and condemning Israel which is not anti semitism.

I don't see any increase of direct hate of Jews because of their faith and their race.

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Surging in the US also - especially in Red States...

Here we go with the left/right garbage.

Couldn't give a stuff either way, but the facts are the majority, if not all, of the "river to the sea" anti-Israel unrest and in the US has been in BLUE strongholds - California, New York, Minnesota and DC.

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The antisemitism would stop if Israel stopped bombing innocent civilians. Thats how we argue these things nowadays, right?

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The antisemitism would stop if Israel stopped bombing innocent civilians.

No, it would not.

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From the footage and images I've seen, the vast majority of this anti-Semitism is NOT coming from ethnic Germans.

It is from one specific religious group for whom tolerance is not in their vocabulary.

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No, it would not.

Yes, it would.

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It isn't anti-semitism. It's anti Israel and anti-Zionism. Big difference, one is bad but the other is the right way of behaving.

Corrrection: It isn't ALL anti-semitism. I am pretty sure graffiti with swastikas and "Death to Jews" is anti-semitic.

Surging in the US also - especially in Red States...

Jewish people being killed in Blue Cities.

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Surging in the US also - especially in Red States...

Jewish people being killed in Blue Cities.

Potential Presidential candidates dining with known anti-Semites...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825

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Yes, it would.

No, it would not, especially when groups like Hamas and Hezbollah refuse to acknowledge the Jewish state, if they're not willing to do that, doesn't matter what the . Israelis do.

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Anti-Semitism resurges in Germany

yet no examples of antisemitism are given in the article!

Protesting the massacre of over 10,000 Palestinian civilians is not antisemitism.

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So how does one express heartfelt support for the Palestinian cause ?

Hundreds of millions, possibly billions, of people around the world see, and in many cases identify with, the plight of the oppressed, the weak. They also very clearly see the oppressor, the powerful.

Zionism is a political movement that has, from its founding, subsumed Jewish identity to the point where any criticism of its violent intentions are framed as an attack on Jewish existence.

Any person can love a country or place but equally treat with contempt those that would claim to represent their identity.

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Hamas gunmen stormed across the border into Israel, killing 1,400 people, mostly civilians, in their homes, on the streets and at a rave party.

They keep repeating this, but it is false. They stormed across the border to take hostages to exchange against the several thousands of Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without due process, including many women and children. Most of the Israeli civilian casualties of Oct 7 were due to the Israeli response, shooting and shelling at anything that moved and at houses occupied by both Hamas and civilians.

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Raw Beer - by this point everyone has seen plenty of video of Hamas killing civilians on 10/7.. If you have videos of IDF killing civilians, I would be interested to see it.

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No, it would not, especially when groups like Hamas and Hezbollah refuse to acknowledge the Jewish state, if they're not willing to do that, doesn't matter what the . Israelis do.

But they have never acknowledged the Israeli state, so it must be something else that has caused this rise in anti-semitic acts, maybe something like the indiscriminate bombing of innocent people in Gaza.

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If you have videos of IDF killing civilians, I would be interested to see it.

I got it mainly from witness testimonies and people analyzing the destruction after the fact.

If you really are interested, a good start might be:

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

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Thanks for your response, Raw Beer. I am not talking about the IDF/Hamas fighting after the incursion, but rather wanted to see if there was any video evidence of IDF firing on Israeli civilians, either at the rave or in the kibbutzim, but I haven’t seen any yet. I will keep looking and I assume you will share with this forum when you find them.

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Diversity works. People celebrating baby put in microwave and people the baby belongs to can coexist. The enlightened libs told me so.

Not sure whether you were referring to the story that a baby was killed in an oven by Hamas, but that was debunked. This actually happened though

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-duma-verdict-idUSKBN22U0L5

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But they have never acknowledged the Israeli state, so it must be something else that has caused this rise in anti-semitic acts, maybe something like the indiscriminate bombing of innocent people in Gaza

As long as terrorist groups drone on about killing Jews and wiping Israel off the map, forget the Two-state solution, it will never happen. The ball was in their court, they squandered it.

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but rather wanted to see if there was any video evidence of IDF firing on Israeli civilians, either at the rave or in the kibbutzim, but I haven’t seen any yet.

Here, you can listen to an interview given by an Israeli survivor about what she saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HugMS0k0kB4

She mentions the heavy crossfire and that many of the Israelis were undoubtedly killed by the Israeli forces. She also mentions houses being shelled by tanks.

I hope they will do a thorough investigation, but I doubt that will ever happen. I suppose they would be able to determine whether bullets came from Hamas guns or Israeli ones.

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As long as terrorist groups drone on about killing Jews and wiping Israel off the map, forget the Two-state solution, it will never happen. The ball was in their court, they squandered it.

Thats isnt what we are talking about. We were talking about antisemitism in Europe - Something that has only started to become a more serious issue since Israel started indiscriminately bombing innocent Gazans.

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Apartheid is wrong no matter who is doing it.

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Thats isnt what we are talking about. We were talking about antisemitism in Europe - Something that has only started to become a more serious issue since Israel started indiscriminately bombing innocent Gazans.

Well, they will just have to deal with it, if the government allows it, that is on them.

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Israel will learn a hard lesson, when it gets involved in America domestic politics

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The current rise of anti-Semitism in Germany, if believed, will play right into the hands of the AfD. I have lived here all my life but never experienced it.

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The current rise of anti-Semitism in Germany, if believed, will play right into the hands of the AfD. I have lived here all my life but never experienced it.

That would be a sad thing, were that to happen.

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Gene Hennigh

Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about anti-Semitism in Germany. Nothing could possibly happen there. 'Sall good.

Thanks to mass immigration from the middle East, all of Western European countries are in the same pickle, but in Germany of course this is particularly delicate. I hope it is a wake-up call to the woke politicians who thought they could import the Middle East into Europe without importing the problems of the Middle East.

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Mr Kipling

It isn't anti-semitism. It's anti Israel and anti-Zionism. Big difference, one is bad but the other is the right way of behaving.

That is the typical excuse, but it does not fly. There is no country called "Zion", it is Israel, and it was specifically created by the UN as a state where Jews would be safe from the persecution in all the Arab muslim countries surrounding it. And the stated goal of all islamist countries is to delete Israel. "Zionism" is simply the political statement that Israel as a Jewish state has a right to exist. Trying to create an artificial difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism is just sophistry.

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This skit on youtube pretty much nails the Western crowd now supporting Hamas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfccVBo9tE

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The protestors are supporting the Palestinian Arabs not Hamas.

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kintsugi

The protestors are supporting the Palestinian Arabs not Hamas.

Nope, you will find a single one among that crowd who speaks against Hamas. The difference is purely in your mind.

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Zaphod

kintsugi

The protestors are supporting the Palestinian Arabs not Hamas.

Nope, you will find a single one among that crowd who speaks against Hamas. The difference is purely in your mind.

You cannot prove that. The difference is purely in your mind.

The majority of world protestors do not support the horrors of the Hamas attacks but are against the mass bombing of civilians in Gaza.

In the article photo, I see no Hamas flags.

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In every Western country Hamas is listed has a terrorist organization.

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kintsugi

The majority of world protestors do not support the horrors of the Hamas attacks but are against the mass bombing of civilians in Gaza.

Please show a link an interview with any of them condemning Hamas terrorism. They immediately change the topic to Israel.

In the article photo, I see no Hamas flags.

Hamas runs Gaza and would run the West Bank if unified.

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