Russia strives for first big Ukraine gains in months

Russia will liberate the regions that Ukraine retakes, it will be a long war..

Russia is not Liberating? It’s occupying by force. Big difference.

Russia will liberate the regions that Ukraine retakes, it will be a long war..

So, taking the side of the aggressor here, anyone who sides with Russia should be ashamed and shamed for supporting Putin and his illegal land grab. Putin and anyone who supports him should not be given any voice.

Soledar is surrounded. There are still about 500 ukranien servicemen left in the city. Il faut still to clean up. Only Wagner participated in the operation. Prigozhin said that the Ukrainian military fought courageously and skillfully.

Russia will liberate the regions that Ukraine retakes,

Pray tell, what legal right, what law, what gives "Russia" the right to attack a sovereign nation?

The Russian strategy is very simple. If their forces in some area are at risk, they withdraw them to save the men and equipment. If Ukrainian forces are threatened, NATO (with a lot of NATO officers and soldiers in the ranks) has them stand and fight. Inevitably losing the men and equipment.

This is why Ukraine is currently in its 8th wave of mobilization and NATO announced it's reserves in equipment have been exhausted. Right now they are debating whether to strip their own active militaries or not. They'll probably agree on a token supply of weapons from active NATO military units. Though it won't look good for the military industrial complex to see Russian tanks rolling past NATOs newest, destroyed tanks and APCs in the Ukraine.

Russia will liberate the regions that Ukraine retakes, it will be a long war..

Have you seen what is left after Russians have occupied? There really isn’t much to “liberate”

War correspondents report that the surrounded Ukrainian militaries are given an ultimatum to surrender by midnight. But the information requires official confirmation

RuSSia trying to conquer and occupy Soledar - at what price?

Hundreds and thousands of dead RuSSian marauders, storming one wave after the other.

And even if they succeed, how long will they be able to hold their positions.

What are they really fighting for? Ruins, scorched earth, all that's left, same as with Bucha.

Their so-called liberation is nothing but a complete genocide attempt.

Erase everything that's connected to and with Ukraine, culture, language, infrastructure, people.

But .....

Ukraine prevails!

The Russian strategy is very simple. If their forces in some area are at risk, they withdraw them to save the men and equipment. If Ukrainian forces are threatened, NATO (with a lot of NATO officers and soldiers in the ranks) has them stand and fight.

Seeing as that "simple" strategy has Russia controlling even less territory than they did last year, maybe Russia needs to come up with something more "complex", since they're failing miserably with their "simple" strategy.

Well of course they desperately want the tunnels, it’s a natural environment for Russian Troops.

Have you seen what is left after Russians have occupied? There really isn’t much to “liberate” Go to read telegram and see video about the fighting and your world will turn upside down. You know too little

Sven, again RuSSian propaganda spreading?

"..... the majority of the population would prefer to join Russia.....".

The overwhelming majority of Ukraininas voted in a free election (not a coup) for an independent Ukrainian government. (more than 90% of those eligible voted for an independent Ukraine!)

The will of the people, if you know what that means - not the will of a dictator!

Concerning Bakhmut and Soledar - according to people (Ukrainian troops) on the ground the situation especially in Soledar is very difficult ...... Ukrainian troops giving up areas that make no sense to be defended, while RuSSian aggressors keep on going wave, after wave, after wave ... one on top of the other. That's how PUTAin and associates take care of their soldiers. Cannon fodder, going to the meatgrinder.

Ukraine prevails!

Bronco

This is a massive success for the Russian forces.

I thought your spin was all the fighters in this area were separatists fighting for their “home”? Now you say the fighters are Russian Forces? But in any case it seems you’re still incorrect as it seems they are the hired mercenaries of the Wagner group. There are no Separatists here anymore and the Russian Forces seem to be too incompetent.

Just saying…

Stay strong, Ukraine!

So Russia's strategy was to withdraw from a capital city, and spend 4(?) months and thousands of lives to get a salt mining town with some tunnels. And we're the ones being fooled by the media.

This is why Soledar and Bakmut are so important.

There is a massive network of tunnels that have been turned into an underground military base where ammunition is stored and soldiers sleep and eat. The tunnels are also used for infiltration operations all over the area, allowing troops to pop out, fight, and hide in the tunnel again.

The Russians temporarily withdrew from Kherson so they could focus on capturing this porcupine.

This is a massive success for the Russian forces.

The media won't admit it, but it is.

40% of the country has no electricity, gas or water, and four provinces have been reunited back to Russia. Russia’s trade and economy is booming. Who writes these articles?

Brinco

40% of the country has no electricity, gas or water,

Not 40% but it is true Russia has concentrated destroying civilian infrastructure. Military targets seem to be too difficult for them?

and four provinces have been reunited back to Russia.

Russia is trying to control some areas but have had no success and have been losing ground overall. Fake referendums we’re just that, fake.

Russia’s trade and economy is booming.

Hummm

Really? lol

40 percent of Ukrainain are fine with a corrupt government,while 69 percent believe NATO aspiration delusional

The loss of these areas would be a morale blow to be sure, but it would not appreciably change the strategic situation for the Russians which is bad.

The UA can stop an advance from the high ground to the West and this cluster duck has caused 32k dead for the Russian army and likely 3x that many wounded in the last 2 months.

In addition, Russian artillery use is down 75%, most likely due to conservation and shortages,

The Wagner thugs, not the Russian army may indeed take the salt mines. It will be a Pyrrhic victory on par with Maretiopol.

Ukraine is going to win this war.

Seapig

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Brinco

> 40% of the country has no electricity, gas or water,

> Not 40% but it is true Russia has concentrated destroying civilian infrastructure. Military targets seem to be too difficult for them?

Actually it is over 40% but that again depends of the news service.

Basically at any given time between 20% and 30% of the country is without power and that goes up to 55% for periods then back down to 20~30% then in a day or two back up to 40~60% so for a few hours possibly a day or two Ukraine will be lucky and only have 20% to 30% without power.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1612863026595598343

Solovyov and crew talking about preemptive nuclear strikes on France and Britain. The General towards the end has a cooler head, but man, these guys give Fox and Friends a run for their money.

Nobody pushing Putin narrative, Ukrainain are the one lying too the world saying victory is at hand,these Patriots missile will not make any difference,it was Triple A ,that they used to defend Kiev not missile

Nobody pushing Putin narrative

We have people pushing the Putin narrative in this very thread.

Putin can reap what he sowed,with compounded interest ,Putin is not begging US taxpayers for their dollars

"We're frying orcs," said soldier with the nom de guerre "Pilot", using a common Ukrainian slur for Russian troops.

Gotta love the spirit of these fellows. With more and more quality western equipment on the way they should be having many more fry ups in the coming months.

A lot of Russian soldiers have paid with their lives for this salty war booty for Putin's chum.

" We have people pushing the Putin narrative in this very thread." A narrative as example, please?

Clip ,the US has always had western military equipment at their disposal 24/7 at an hour notice,what was the result in every war, withdrawal

Anything that is true but that isn’t 100% supportive of any Ukraine counter propaganda= “pushing the Putin narrative” here.

You have wounded soldiers freezing to death on both sides , because of the bitter cold with temperature in the teens and 20 mph winds,with 0 F degrees wind-chill,is were hell freezes over

Anything that is true but that isn’t 100% supportive of any Ukraine counter propaganda= “pushing the Putin narrative” here.

No, anything that is saying the same thing as the propaganda Putin pushes, is pushing Putin propaganda.

The phrase literally describes itself.

Yrral

Putin can reap what he sowed,with compounded interest ,Putin is not begging US taxpayers for their dollars

And Europe. Because the leaders in the US and Europe know that the fastest way to peace is to give Ukraine arms. In fact it's the only way to peace.

ClippetyClop, u underestimate the lives of ukranien soldiers.... U saw how many videos with military cemeteries in Ukraine exist on the net? Many and many... but u hardly ever find a video with Russian military cemetry. Zel is a killer of his people.

Sven

The Russian strategy is very simple. If their forces in some area are at risk, they withdraw them to save the men and equipment.

There are reports of having to climb over dead bodies in Soldar, so, I doubt the Russians are trying to save men.

Zoroto

I thought Russia was losing and running out of weapons. Fake news?

They are.

We like to keep it simple for you since historically you have immense difficulty discerning truth from stuff that you want to be true.

No, anything that is saying the same thing as the propaganda Putin pushes, is pushing Putin propaganda.

See my point about only a certain group seem only able to attack others and not counter the comments.

Just remember, Zelensky's crew claimed it still had control of Mariupol long after the only people who answered to him were hiding underground too afraid of what he'd do to their families to surrender until international attention provided them some hope of protection from Zelensky.

PS, this war started with something like we just saw fail in Brazil, that succeeded with Obama's help.

DT,you are military expert,do diesel fuel start freezes around 20 degrees and turn to gel and freezes at 10 degrees the diesel fuel intake valve

but there is no difference made for when what "Putin is saying" equals what "some posters are saying" which is actually truthful.

its never presented as the truth when it is, but still as Putin propaganda.

Now compare that to Ukraine, even obvious propaganda and lies (Ghost of Kyiv) are pushed as the truth.

@Kuku,

".....U saw how many videos with military cemeteries in Ukraine exist on the net? Many and many... but u hardly ever find a video with Russian military cemetry."

Yup, you got that right. Ukrainians are not hiding their losses, they mourn those who gave their everything to defend Ukraine's freedom against those RuSSian aggressors, leaving not one behind! Contrary to what RuSSians are doing, abandoning those who didn' make it. People, get the facts!

Ukraine prevails!

I thought Russia was losing and running out of weapons. Fake news?

No, that is actual news.

That you don't want to recognize it is a different thing.

it seems that UA forces are "winning" again.

Actually it’s not only on the “pages of JT”. But keep spinning there comrade

do not ever underestimate Russians mates

One of the reasons Ukraine is actually winning, and Russian forces are literally climbing over dead comrades to be part of the meat grinder, seems to be because the Ukrainian military doesn’t underestimate the invaders.

That and they actually target military objectives instead of civilian targets.

it seems that UA forces are "winning" again.

They are. It just seems that some are not intelligent enough to read the trend lines.

maybe not at battlefiled but at least at pages of JT.

Um, perhaps check the objective evidence of that which the mods don't like us mentioning but we can all easily see for ourselves?

Love the bravado of the Putin fanboys.

A story about a force mainly comprised of enslaved prisoners led by a deranged chef having partially captured a small, depopulated town in the middle of nowhere is the best news they've heard in 6 months, so they are all doing a huge victory lap without any self awareness of how pathetic that is.

Is this still all still part of Putin's original long game plan? If so I must say its getting increasingly esoteric.

"No, that is actual news." Who told u? Why Russian military experts don't informe about it? Don't u know? Usual Russian incompetence maybe?:)))))

Now compare that to Ukraine, even obvious propaganda and lies (Ghost of Kyiv) are pushed as the truth.

Sort of like that Russian claim that it killed 600 Ukrainians in their dormitories, right?

You and @AS seem perpetually irate at Ukranian claims being shaky, yet place no such doubts on Russian claims. But that's Putin propaganda for you I suppose. It finds a comfortable, warm place between right-wing ears.

Both of you are naive in thinking that either side will not spin their war efforts positively. This happens in every single war. Grow up and get used to it.

even obvious propaganda and lies (Ghost of Kyiv) are pushed as the truth.

Where is anyone seriously pushing the Ghost of Kyiv as being the truth?

Eastman

Ukraine in your eyes will be actual winner "forever".

Make it this way.

Let leave facts.

Simple,troubleless and in line with JT narratives.

Actually I don’t know who will be the “winner” in the end, a lot could still happen. I’m just saying that since Putin’s 3-day “Special Military Operation” is now in its 11th month, Russia has realized none of its objectives, they hold less ground today then 11 months ago, and since the Russian forces don’t seem to be very capable they are depending on hired mercenaries, thugs, and criminals of the Wagner group recently. They have sent huge numbers into the grinder to never return. Ukraine didn’t invade Russia and didn’t send their forces anywhere, they are just fighting to protect their country.

Since Russia invaded they have to actually win to be the “winner”, Ukraine simply has to not lose and at this point they certainly are losing so that means they are winning.

With all of that, yes, at this point in time Ukraine is winning in many many ways.

Where is anyone seriously pushing the Ghost of Kyiv as being the truth?

nearly all the liberal media from end of Feb 2021 to end of April 2021.

of course NOW its obviously fake, but it served its propaganda purpose of the time.

Eastman, right!

Once PUTAin and associates are gone they might!

Oh, and yes, I'm feeling pretty good, thanks for asking!

Hope you can say the same!

By the way, you made a "minor" spelling and grammar mistake!

It's ......

Ukraine prevails!

nearly all the liberal media from end of Feb 2021 to end of April 2021.

Wow a year before the war even started? And almost all the lib media you say? Impressive.

Just expressing an opinion, but seems to me that it would be wise for Ukraine to retreat a few yards, if it means massive Russian casualties. Exchanging a small amount of ground for thousands of enemy soldiers taken out of combat seems like a good trade.

Ukraine can bypass this area, surround it, and force the Russians to retreat, once they are ready.

Just expressing an opinion, but seems to me that it would be wise for Ukraine to retreat a few yards, if it means massive Russian casualties. Exchanging a small amount of ground for thousands of enemy soldiers taken out of combat seems like a good trade.

That’s exactly what they’re about to do. Withdraw to the high ground to the West and control the approaches to the city.

Over 2 months, the Russians will have suffered 32k KIA, 3 times that many wounded and the waste of a good portion of their munitions for the privilege of sitting in a burned out geographical bowl.

Russian Strategic genius in action.