Teacher, student brain drain hits Hong Kong schools

Sad. I lived in Taiwan and made visits to Hong Kong to renew my visa - and for fun! It was once a paradise; now, it is apparently hell.

Always wanted to visit Hong Kong, but I guess it will never happen now. Glad to see Taiwan is still good to go.

I used to live in Hong Kong and loved my life when it was not part of China. I left Hong Kong when the Chinese Government decided to go ahead and create a living hell for the citizens of Hong Kong. I am happily living in Tokyo now but I do miss the people of Hong Kong very much. RIP.

I visited Hong Kong in 2005. It was great. Not so different from Japan or Singapore. The locals said nothing had changed since the handover. Things are certainly different now.

For such a vibrant culture to end this way is very sad.

How very sad the world lost a thriving democracy that the CCP crushed.

It was over for HK the instant China took over.

But Is there anyone who didn't see this coming? Beijing was never going to allow freedom and dissent in Hong Kong in perpetuity.

The CCP have vandalized HK.

A pity for those of us who enjoyed visiting that fine plane but a disaster for those living there.

Miserable.

Our daily dose of anti-Chinese propaganda.

Not even the schools are safe from the evil CCP....

Sad for Hong Kong. It's really the end of its glory days.

How very sad the world lost a thriving democracy that the CCP crushed.

While its people enjoyed many freedoms, I don't think Hong Kong was ever a democracy.

Teachers are voting with their feet since freedom of thought is the sine qua non of real teaching, but anathema to bureaucrats and fundamentalist ideologues. One day some will return to teach the truth and vanquish the lies that warp vulnerable young minds.

Our daily dose of anti-Chinese propaganda.

and our daily dose of anti-west propaganda.

How is your western freedom treating you by the way ?

The brain drain from HK is in full swing. Why would you stay in that authoritarian hell-hole when you have a visa to live in a free nation, where you won't be locked away for daring to say anything negative against the Communist party?

I went to HK in '04. Amazing place, clean, safe and incredibly free. Citizens freely changed betwen Cantonese and English fluently, with no fear of reprisal. Pretty much every eatery was 5 star, it was a joy to spend 3 days in.

HK in 2022 is an authoritarian, dirty place, where the citizens live in fear - as anyone would being watched and monitored 24-7. A place to be avoided and boycotted at all costs. The smart folk have all gotten out.

Glad to see Taiwan is still good to go.

It will be for as long as the free world guarantees free Taiwan its sovereignty. The moment they drop the ball - Taiwan is over. Just like HK.

Beijing was never going to allow freedom and dissent in Hong Kong in perpetuity.

Romanticizing the past. Was it a democracy under British rule?

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But Is there anyone who didn't see this coming? Beijing was never going to allow freedom and dissent in Hong Kong in perpetuity.

The promised on agreement with Britain was that the CCP wouldn't interfere for 50 years.

Teachers have since been ordered to instill patriotism in students

Super long-timers may remember a similar move in Japan about 15 or so years ago. At the time, many teachers were against it. But... yeah...China bad.... lol

The CCP never learns, until their time is finally up... which hopefully will be soon. Also was lucky enough to visit HK in the very early 2000s. Nice place to visit back in the day.

@Kipling, you might find it hard to believe that many people actually like CHINA (historical, scenic, and cultural value), but absolutely abhor and utterly despise the CCP and how they have completely ruined the potential of what China could have been. The CCP is not CHINA as a whole, just a disgusting unelected (by the actual people) political governing "party" that rules over China, wreaking havoc and demanding control and power over everything they can. So yes, CCP BAD.... VERY BAD.

There is no way I would accept an transfer to HK and it used to be one of the most sought out overseas locations for Japan-based staff.

Not just teachers, but everyone who can, really should seriously consider immigrating while the getting is good (or at least possible.)

Did the Japanese teachers get locked up if they didn't do it?

Teachers have since been ordered to instill patriotism in students

Super long-timers may remember a similar move in Japan about 15 or so years ago. At the time, many teachers were against it. But... yeah...China bad.... lol

But... yeah...China bad.... lol

yes, that’s why they’re all leaving. No joke.

Escape HK if you can. If you can't, keep your head down, zero small talk, teach maths.

Is it any wonder? Supposedly after Constantinople fell to the Ottomans in 1453 the Eastern Romans (Byzantines) started fleeing to Europe en masse and the remnants of the Roman Empire were finally conquered by the Ottoman Turks and snuffed out by 1461 or so.

SpeedSep. 1  05:28 pm JST

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But Is there anyone who didn't see this coming? Beijing was never going to allow freedom and dissent in Hong Kong in perpetuity.

The promised on agreement with Britain was that the CCP wouldn't interfere for 50 years.

Since when can the CCP be counted on to keep their ends of a bargain? I saw them squash peaceful demonstrators with their army tanks live on TV in June 1989. And it's the same bunch of bastards running the show in China now.

@Kipling, you might find it hard to believe that many people actually like CHINA (historical, scenic, and cultural value), but absolutely abhor and utterly despise the CCP and how they have completely ruined the potential of what China could have been. The CCP is not CHINA as a whole, just a disgusting unelected (by the actual people) political governing "party" that rules over China, wreaking havoc and demanding control and power over everything they can. So yes, CCP BAD.... VERY BAD.

There is no question or denial that China during the imperial and republic days was glorious. They have contributed so much to the rest of the world in terms of inventions, ideas, arts, sciences, engineering, medicine and more. They were the first to observe sunspots on the Sun (thru smoke), they explored North America (Alaska), and they had a different cure for smallpox long before Jenner did. Their civilization is over 7000 years old and it traded extensively with India, the Greeks, and the Romans (via the Silk Route).

But now since Murderous Megalomaniacal Madman Mao and his CCP cohorts took over, it is so rotten over there now. China has a long proud and colorful legacy but the CCP has spoiled it all with their twisted up oppressive Communist bullcrap. It's a horrible mess there now. And the HKers are smart to leave it, or at least resist. I would too.

I hope that those Hong Kongers who choose to leave for greener pastures are able to do so.

Look at those children, all dressed up in those 'Young Pioneers' uniforms and holding little CCP flags. And wearing CCP flags on their sleeves. All getting indoctrinated in the warped lies of an ideology that pretends to be a socialist utopia that Marx envisioned but ISN'T. Sick and disgusting to the max.

Just

Plain

SAD.

Some of the common people in Hong Kong are literally living in cages and cubicles smaller than your bedroom closet. We're not talking 4.5 tatami mats in the dorms that new salary workers live in. They are called caged housing. As HK integrate with Shenzhen and Guangzhou, the housing situation will improve.