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'Everything is at stake' for reproductive rights in 2024, Harris says as Biden-Trump debate nears

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because women, we don’t get to choose a whole lot, and you at least can choose who you can vote for.”

Quite simply incorrect because women in the USA have equal rights

In fact when it comes to reproduction women have even more rights than men

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Mr Goodman

In fact when it comes to reproduction women have even more rights than men

Because it's their own body? WTH

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“Every voter has to go with your heart and do what’s right, but we also have to get elected,” he said.

Trump has no actual stand on this. He opened Pandoras box and wants to take credit for it but realizes that reproductive rights are a hot topic that he could lose on. He also doesn't want to alienate his religious base.

4 ( +13 / -9 )

Quite simply incorrect because women in the USA have equal rights

How when some states banned abortions, abortion pills, and IVF?

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Trump is going to get slaughtered on a range of issues, but abortion will be the nail in the coffin for his evangelical supporters...the moderator only has to ask:

"Mr Trump, you have previously said the life begins at conception, and your belief in the sanctity of life. Yet you now say abortion should be legal until the 15th week, which in earlier comments you said was "murdering children. Why are you now for killing babies"?

Or "Do you believe the decision by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that a fertilized egg is a person was correct"?

Or "Mike Pence, your VP and a vocal evangelical, has clearly said that all abortions should be illegal with no exceptions - is he right or wrong"?

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Mr Goodman

because women, we don’t get to choose a whole lot, and you at least can choose who you can vote for.”

Quite simply incorrect because women in the USA have equal rights

What does this even mean? Men can't get an abortion, so it's equal?

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Trump supports abortions up to 15 weeks, the abortion pill, and IVF. How does he keep his religious base?

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"Mike Pence, your VP and a vocal evangelical, has clearly said that all abortions should be illegal with no exceptions - is he right or wrong"?

Mike Pence is not his VP pick.

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"Mike Pence, your VP and a vocal evangelical, has clearly said that all abortions should be illegal with no exceptions - is he right or wrong"?

Mike Pence is not his VP pick.

Who was Trump's VP during his term - Hannibal Lector?

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If her party really cared, they would have done something about it decades ago. Instead, they (and the other side of the same coin, the Republicans) use this as a weapon and bring out this old chestnut whenever it's election year. Then, when the election is over, everything is swept under the carpet and left there until the next election.

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in this upcoming debate the lef**tists have no guts to face the real issues of US citizens, are facing now. And the world issues.....

So they wants to divert everything to one point.... ABORTION... is this the BIGGIST issue of US voters now????

NO HELL no ..

But the failed Biden white house is joke for 75% of US voters. They wants to hide it..... JUST diverting people's attention to a different issue... that is ABORTION....

It stated with lef***t media starting promoting it...... And poor voters just bite that bate..

Wake up America.. Do not be a slave of this global agenda of anti social propaganda groups. Think freely. How do you live now? are you in a surviving state or better state?

Look how the world is watching our nation.

Do you want a puppet in white house or a strong leader who you can trust.

Talk to each other and learn the from others what do we need to save this nation.

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Who was Trump's VP during his term - Hannibal Lector?

This is a discussion about the upcoming election. Also when was there a nationwide abortion ban between 2016 and 2020 because of Mike Pence?

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wallace

Trump supports abortions up to 15 weeks, the abortion pill, and IVF. How does he keep his religious base?

He keeps them by not talking about it.

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Pukey2

If her party really cared, they would have done something about it decades ago.

Decades ago, there was no need: Roe v Wade was the law of the land.

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marc laden

in this upcoming debate the lef**tists have no guts to face the real issues of US citizens, are facing now. And the world issues.....

So they wants to divert everything to one point.... ABORTION... is this the BIGGIST issue of US voters now????

NO HELL no ..

And contraception.

And IVF.

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If her party really cared, they would have done something about it decades ago. Instead, they (and the other side of the same coin, the Republicans) use this as a weapon and bring out this old chestnut whenever it's election year. Then, when the election is over, everything is swept under the carpet and left there until the next election.

Complete and utter nonsense. Only one party is attempting to take away reproductive rights from women, and that isn't the Democrat party. Only one party openly backs a candidate who wants to make himself dictator, and that also isn't the Democrat party. Enough of this "both sides are the same" drivel.

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Note and mark my words now about the debate

The coming debate is conducted by CNN.. The number one fake media.. which is run by the Lef*ts

The questions by the moderators will be rigged. Those questions will be given in weeks advance to Biden.......... So that he old brain can prepare the answers. More over the CNN will help his all round.

And the questions will be putting Trump down and hiding real issues... Example+ 50% questions will be like ABORTION etc... The rest about criminal , conviction etc... ( the manipulation already started now in the lef* t media)

You can guess what would be the outcome...

But most of the US voters are now realizing the fake face of lef*tists and their agenda.

See it for real..

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Wake up America.. Do not be a slave of this global agenda of anti social propaganda groups. Think freely. How do you live now? are you in a surviving state or better state?

Yes. By thinking freely I mean support the candidate the billionaires back. Support the candidate that the billionaires have already donated tens of millions to indoctrinate you into voting against your own interest, so the rich can get bigger tax cuts and you can live hand to mouth.

No one is buying this nonsense. Trump and the GOP doesn't represent mainstream America.

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Trump is going to get slaughtered on a range of issues,

With the exception of a abortion, he won’t.

but abortion will be the nail in the coffin for his evangelical supporters...the moderator only has to ask: 

"Mr Trump, you have previously said the life begins at conception, and your belief in the sanctity of life. Yet you now say abortion should be legal until the 15th week, which in earlier comments you said was "murdering children. Why are you now for killing babies"? 

I’m sure Trump will try and pivot and bring it right back to crime, illegals, borders, fentanyl, Ukraine aid and jobs

Or "Do you believe the decision by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that a fertilized egg is a person was correct"?

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The right to slaughter a baby in the womb? No moral right exists, except in extremely rare cases. That's what the law should reflect.

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No one is buying this nonsense. Trump and the GOP doesn't represent mainstream America.

So much talk about Trump this and Trump that but let's talk about the woman speaking in this article Kamala Harris. How does she represent mainstream America? Please break it down.

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Trump supports abortions up to 15 weeks, the abortion pill, and IVF. How does he keep his religious base?

O na that stance, he won’t.

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The Biden campaign believes that abortion rights can be a galvanizing issue in what is expected to be a close general election.

Because that's all they have to offer.

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Concerned Citizen

The right to slaughter a baby in the womb? No moral right exists, except in extremely rare cases. That's what the law should reflect.

If that's your opinion, then don't get an abortion. The majority of Americans don't have this opinion and, hence, should be entitled to reproductive rights.

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Note and mark my words now about the debate

The coming debate is conducted by CNN.. The number one fake media.. which is run by the Lef*ts 

The questions by the moderators will be rigged. Those questions will be given in weeks advance to Biden.......... So that he old brain can prepare the answers. More over the CNN will help his all round.

Here is the thing, Biden asked if he could sit, they told him now, all Trump has to do is just focus on the key issues because Biden will constantly say, convicted felon, J6 and abortion, that’s about it. Let Biden run his mouth like he always does and when it’s his turn, hit him on the issues, because Joe doesn’t have any, Trump beats him on every single on except for abortion

And the questions will be putting Trump down and hiding real issues... Example+ 50% questions will be like ABORTION etc... The rest about criminal , conviction etc... ( the manipulation already started now in the lef* t media) 

Side step them, bring it back to the issues, Tapper can’t compel him to say anything, he’s a so called leftist moderator, not a presidential candidate

You can guess what would be the outcome... 

But most of the US voters are now realizing the fake face of lef*tists and their agenda.

See it for real..

Exactly

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bass4funk

I’m sure Trump will try and pivot and bring it right back to crime, illegals, borders, fentanyl,

Well, Biden beats him here, after Trump scuttled the bipartisan border bill.

Ukraine aid

Most people in US support.

and jobs

Biden has crushed it on jobs. It's not a winner for Trump.

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How does she represent mainstream America?

She certainly represents it better than a convicted felon, backed by billionaires like Donald J Trump.

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The right to slaughter a baby in the womb? No moral right exists, except in extremely rare cases. That's what the law should reflect.

A fetus only becomes a baby at birth and supports itself with their organs.

"When egg and sperm meet, a zygote is formed and quickly begins dividing to become an embryo. As pregnancy progresses the embryo becomes a fetus. The fetus becomes a neonate or newborn at birth."

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The Biden campaign believes that abortion rights can be a galvanizing issue in what is expected to be a close general election.

Because that's all they have to offer.

No, they have a lot to offer. With the exception of abortion, Trump beats Biden on every other issue.

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So they wants to divert everything to one point.... ABORTION... is this the BIGGIST issue of US voters now????

NO HELL no ..

Taking away women's bodily autonomy is a huge issue. The Christian right has been celebrating this for months and Trump regularly refers to it.

The US is now in the tiny minority of developing countries in the world that don't guarantee a right to an abortion.

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Trump is going to get slaughtered on a range of issues,

With the exception of a abortion, he won’t.

Thanks for admitting he'll get killed on abortion...

but abortion will be the nail in the coffin for his evangelical supporters...the moderator only has to ask: 

"Mr Trump, you have previously said the life begins at conception, and your belief in the sanctity of life. Yet you now say abortion should be legal until the 15th week, which in earlier comments you said was "murdering children. Why are you now for killing babies"? 

I’m sure Trump will try and pivot and bring it right back to crime, illegals, borders, fentanyl, Ukraine aid and jobs

You mean he'll wimp out and won't answer the question - just like a lot of his supporters here...

Previously you would lecture us all that life began at conception and all abortions were murder....

Then Trump came out and said it's OK to kill babies until the 15th week - and suddenly you go silent...

So I'll ask again, does life begin at conception? Yes or no...

Or "Do you believe the decision by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that a fertilized egg is a person was correct"?

Answer?

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She certainly represents it better than a convicted felon, backed by billionaires like Donald J Trump.

Anybody can say that but break down why she is great for the U.S. and how she represents mainstream USA? Why do people only talk about Trump but know zero about their own candidates except that they aren't Trump?

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bass4funk

No, they have a lot to offer. With the exception of abortion, Trump beats Biden on every other issue.

Except the border, jobs, crime, unions and healthcare...

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Anybody can say that but break down why she is great for the U.S. and how she represents mainstream USA?

Because she's not a felon for one. Biden and her a decent people who haven't spent their lives cheating taxpayers, and stealing from contractors for starters. They're also better on the economy. They're for raising taxes on the rich, and fighting climate change. They're also pro-NATO and pro-Ukraine. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the gist.

Why do people only talk about Trump but know zero about their own candidates except that they aren't Trump?

Why do you only ask questions?

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Note and mark my words now about the debate

The coming debate is conducted by CNN.. The number one fake media.. which is run by the Lefts *

The questions by the moderators will be rigged. Those questions will be given in weeks advance to Biden.......... So that he old brain can prepare the answers. More over the CNN will help his all round.

Here's the thing - Trump's supporters have seen his clear deterioration over the past several months - the forgetting of names, the constant not knowing what city he is in, the 35 second brain freezes, the obsession with "sharks and electricity"....and Hannibal Lector....

They know he is going to go down in flames so the weak pathetic spin and excuses have already started...

Everyone sees it for what it is...MAGA-surrender...

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No, they have a lot to offer. With the exception of abortion, Trump beats Biden on every other issue.

Trump doesn't beat Biden on anything. They are both 2 cheeks of the same backside.

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Well, Biden beats him here,

That’s about it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ohio-sheriff-fed-up-with-crime-stemming-from-border-crisis-calls-for-death-penalty-renewal/ar-BB1nWgJo

Ukraine aid 

Most people in US support.

Not financially

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

Biden has crushed it on jobs. It's not a winner for Trump.

Reading leftist newspapers across the pond is not reality.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/president/general-election

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/few-americans-want-u-s-more-involved-in-current-wars-in-ukraine-and-gaza-ap-norc-poll-says

-10 ( +3 / -13 )

Trump's stated position (and that of the Supreme Court) may pull the rug from the Democrats on this issue. It will be a state choice now even if the Democrats win.

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“Every person of whatever gender should understand

Pandering word salad alert!

so in other words? every male and female.

but really only females as males cannot become pregnant and have abortions.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Trump beats Biden by being the first convicted ex-president felon and sexual offender.

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all Trump has to do is just focus on the key issues because Biden will constantly say, convicted felon, J6 and abortion, that’s about it. 

Each candidate will receive the same questions to answer, as well as a chance to retort. I think you'll find Biden can talk about his positions and his accomplishments quite lucidly and logically.

The questions by the moderators will be rigged. Those questions will be given in weeks advance to Biden.......... So that he old brain can prepare the answers. More over the CNN will help his all round.

Pathetic excuse-making for Trump ahead of time. No evidence for that. Along with the stupid "jacked-up Joe" nonsense, as if cocaine or Red Bull will somehow immediately turn a person into a genius.

Example+ 50% questions will be like ABORTION etc... The rest about criminal , conviction etc... ( the manipulation already started now in the lef* t media)

You'll be proven wrong.

Who is this guy anyway?

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seems Joe has the billionaires.

Naw just the ones with massive inherited wealth like Trump and the self-affirming fundamentalist ideology that they deserve it because of their god-given grace, non-evident intellect etc etc.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/06/14/these-are-the-billionaires-supporting-trumps-campaign/

Find the billionaires that have supported Sanders, there is the real litmus test.

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Biden and her a decent people who haven't spent their lives cheating taxpayers, and stealing from contractors for starters. They're also better on the economy. They're for raising taxes on the rich, and fighting climate change. They're also pro-NATO and pro-Ukraine. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the gist.

and that is the first time you have actually talked about Biden since joining this site years ago. Wow! Go on please. Tell us more reasons why Biden is the greatest POTUS in all of our lifetimes.

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Each candidate will receive the same questions to answer, as well as a chance to retort.

will they really? The same questions?

and based on CNN giving the democrats the questions last time in advance who is to say that isn’t what Biden is taking 10 days off work to practice answering?

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Pathetic excuse-making for Trump ahead of time. No evidence for that. Along with the stupid "jacked-up Joe" nonsense, as if cocaine or Red Bull will somehow immediately turn a person into a genius.

We will all be watching and awaiting your cheapfake comments when Biden is wandering all over the stage looking at ghosts lol

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

and that is the first time you have actually talked about Biden since joining this site years ago. Wow! Go on please. Tell us more reasons why Biden is the greatest POTUS in all of our lifetimes.

Well, I answered your silly questions. Maybe you should tell us all why should elect a convicted felon?

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@Wallace

A fetus only becomes a baby at birth and supports itself with their organs.

Biologists: Life begins at conception.

Biologists from 1,058 academic institutions around the world assessed survey items on when a human's life begins and, overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view.

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Democrats just have to ensure that Joe doesn’t “freeze”and that some type of somewhat understandable words come out of his mouth at the appropriate times.

The White House can just “walk back” anything weird he said or blame it as “cheap fake” later (no live audience to see it) He just has to show “energy”.

stimulants by definition provide that.

But it also causes the anger and screaming and disorientation we saw last time at State of the Union.

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Concerned Citizen

@Wallace

A fetus only becomes a baby at birth and supports itself with their organs.

Biologists: Life begins at conception.

Sure. But not personhood. They aren’t babies until they don’t rely upon the mother.

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Concerned Citizen

@Wallace

A fetus only becomes a baby at birth and supports itself with their organs.

Biologists: Life begins at conception.

Biologists from 1,058 academic institutions around the world assessed survey items on when a human's life begins and, overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view.

But a fetus becomes a baby only at birth.

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Each candidate will receive the same questions to answer, as well as a chance to retort.

Lol, yeah…ok

I think you'll find Biden can talk about his positions and his accomplishments quite lucidly and logically.

Like what?

Pathetic excuse-making for Trump ahead of time. No evidence for that. Along with the stupid "jacked-up Joe" nonsense, as if cocaine or Red Bull will somehow immediately turn a person into a genius.

I’m sorry, but what?

You'll be proven wrong.

No, it’s on record.

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Luckily for Biden, he has a good record on inflation. Also, according to recent polls, people in the US feel good about the economy.

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Stop with the weak dodges and show a little courage and answer the question..

yeah is what you claimed every single other time before I answered.

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It’s like the left doesn’t even read the news:

“Trump says he wouldn’t sign federal abortion ban”

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

“Trump says he wouldn’t sign federal abortion ban”

Trump has also said he would sign a federal abortion ban.

Why should we believe Trump, over Trump?

That's the question he's going to have to answer for the independents and women in America.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

This one about to close. Well dodged fellas

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bass4funkToday 09:50 am JST

The ultimate answer is: liberals will find a way to murder their inconvenient babies, regardless of what the law actually is.

They want to have the right to kill babies, but the people or grownups that rape and kill women shouldn’t get the death penalty? Yeah, makes total sense, killing the innocent and sparing the life of a criminal.

Say what you will about criminals: they don't require an additional human life to survive.

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The position he will take is that he will not sign a National ban and will leave it up to the states.

been very clear.

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Harris is a joke. She ran for president, but dropped out before a single vote was cast in any election. She knew from her polling numbers that NOBODY wanted her near the oval office. Nobody but Biden, it turned out. She was polling at under 1%. Anybody thinking of voting for Biden has to understand that she will be president when he drops over dead. That would be very, very dangerous for the world. China, North Korea, Russia, Iran etc would be ectatic.

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Say what you will about criminals: they don't require an additional human life to survive.

The point is, why is their life more valuable than an infant's?

That's the question he's going to have to answer for the independents and women in America.

He actually, already did.

“The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both. And whatever they decide must be the law of the land,” “Now, it’s up to the states to do the right thing.”

-Trump

All he needs to do is to continue to say that, no matter how much Tapper tries to bait him, clarify your stance with this statement and push Jake to move on and let Biden and him and the other liberal media lackeys try to get the guy.

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Harris is a joke. She ran for president, but dropped out before a single vote was cast in any election. She knew from her polling numbers that NOBODY wanted her near the oval office. Nobody but Biden, it turned out. She was polling at under 1%. Anybody thinking of voting for Biden has to understand that she will be president when he drops over dead.

She's entirely more competent than any of the moron acolytes Trump is considering for VP, and let's be clear, we're not sure Trump's dementia will even hold off until the election, much lest passed it.

So really, if we're looking at it that way, it's a comparison of VPs.

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“The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both. And whatever they decide must be the law of the land,” “Now, it’s up to the states to do the right thing.”

Do you think the independents and female voters will be ok with this as an answer to Trump having taken away women's right to abortion?

I'm guessing Biden will win the point on that one, when he tells them he'll work to enshrine their rights, rather than take them away like Trump did.

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“The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both. And whatever they decide must be the law of the land,” “Now, it’s up to the states to do the right thing.”

Also, considering Trump already said he wouldn't take away women's right to abortion, then took it away, what is it you think will convince them that he won't flip-flop on the above claim again, and actually ban it federally with no exceptions?

He's got a bit of a credibility issue you see, so how can he get passed that?

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She's entirely more competent than any of the moron acolytes Trump is considering for VP

If so, why do liberals and even in her own party give her the lowest marks on likable and favorability score?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3572304-revolving-door-creates-questions-and-complications-for-kamala-harris/

If she can't even keep on staff....

, and let's be clear, we're not sure Trump's dementia

He doesn't, his medical records show his cognitive faculties all intact, and more importantly, Trump said, he is happy and willing to take a cognitive test to prove any doubters, Biden will not.

So really, if we're looking at it that way, it's a comparison of VPs.

Huh?? ROFL!

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Trump all over the place on this issue.

What a slimy politician-type he is.

Maybe that’s a bit uncharitable of me - it could be in part to his serious mental deterioration. Can’t even remember what US state he is in these days.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

I'm guessing Biden will win the point on that one, when he tells them he'll work to enshrine their rights, rather than take them away like Trump did.

Ok, so he doesn't address Crime, the border, illegal immigration, the economy?? Man, Trump will ace this, too easy...

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

If so, why do liberals and even in her own party give her the lowest marks on likable and favorability score?

Doesn't really matter, as much as she's more likeable and favorable than Trump's pick for VP.

And she is more likeable and favorable than all of them.

He doesn't, his medical records show his cognitive faculties all intact

He already can't even remember who gave him the test. But he does know that he correctly identified an elephant on it! He also knows more about electric boat motors and sharks than anyone.

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Trump all over the place on this issue.

No, the Dems plan is to MAKE him make a mess of the issue, he won't, not this time.

What a slimy politician-type he is. 

Biden is worse, 50 years of him. time to retire and he shows it.

Maybe that’s a bit uncharitable of me - it could be in part to his serious mental deterioration. Can’t even remember what US state he is in these days.

If Dems are trying to go for that, they will lose all day. I hope they try. They should have listened to James Carville, he's so ticked off at his own party. Listen to the man that got Clinton elected twice, but no.....ROFL

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No, the Dems plan is to MAKE him make a mess of the issue, he won't, not this time.

If they are, they learned well from the Republicans smearing Hillary! Good on them!

Biden is worse, 50 years of him.

Which rights has Biden taken away from women?

If Dems are trying to go for that, they will lose all day.

The problem is, Trump can't remember which day it is...

The thing is, we know you don't see the proof of Trump's severe mental decline in your right-wing MAGA MSM extremist news, but the independents see it.

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Doesn't really matter,

If Dems don't want her, her own party??? Yeah, it matters. 

as much as she's more likeable and favorable than Trump's pick for VP.

We don't even know who that is yet.

And she is more likeable and favorable than all of them.

Maybe for the Marxist crowd, fine.

He already can't even remember who gave him the test.

Ok, now you are trolling again, relax Strange, relax...

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If Dems don't want her, her own party??? Yeah, it matters.

Nah, they just have to want her more than Trump and his VP. And considering Trump, and his list of potential VPs, Harris is beloved.

We don't even know who that is yet.

Yes, but we know the band of merry morons he is considering. And they are all incompetent.

Maybe for the Marxist crowd, fine.

Is that what they are telling you on the far-right extremist MSM? Do you think the independents are watching that?

Ok, now you are trolling again, relax Strange, relax...

Just because you don't see it in your MAGA MSM doesn't mean the independents won't see it.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Both Biden and Trump are too old to be president.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Nah,

Yes.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4459705-democrats-have-a-kamala-harris-problem/

At a certain point, someone of substance within the Democratic Party is going to have to find the courage to say the quiet part out loud regarding Vice President Kamala Harris: Fewer and fewer Democrats want her on the 2024 ticket with Joe Biden or, most especially, as the presidential nominee should Biden drop out of the race.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/kamala-harris-favorability-poll-00162093

With voter concern about President Joe Biden’s age haunting his chances of reelection, a new poll shows his next in line, Vice President Kamala Harris, facing serious doubts about her ability to win the presidency herself, or to perform the job well were she to inherit it.

Yes,

So you know them personally?

Is that what they are telling you on the far-right extremist MSM?

Just looking at their policies

https://www.heritage.org/americas/commentary/the-biden-administration-would-rather-align-itself-marxists-pro-western-latin

Do you think the independents are watching that?

Heck if I know...

Just because you don't see it in your MAGA MSM doesn't mean the independents won't see it.

See what? You ok, there?

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Someone's been believing the lies they're told in the MAGA media, and hasn't seen Biden's recent speeches. The man is on fire.

What Speech?

But we'll all see it, MAGA included, at the debates.

Yes, we will.

I just hope Trump doesn't bring up electric boat motors or sharks, cause Biden will lose on those ones. No one knows more about these than Donald J. Trump, and he'll tell you!

?

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Nah,

Yes.

Nah, with a two-party system, they just have to hate her less than they hate the other guys.

Heck if I know...

Yeah, that's why you're going to be surprised when Biden wins in November. And I'm going to say "remember that time I pointed out the fact that Biden was ahead by 11 million and abortion"?

Remember, unlike MAGA, the independents also consume media outside the far-right extremist MSM.

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When they are written for him in big bold letters and held in front of him, maybe. Joe hardly knows where he is most of the time these days and keeps randomly either freezing in place or wondering off on his handlers. It is cruel his masters are denying him the way overdue retirement bliss

Maybe he doesn’t want to be a one-term president like Jimmy Connors and is better placed than his opponent to stop WW2 breaking out.

Still, he’s too old. Nikki Pelosi could pop around to keep him company.

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Nah, with a two-party system, they just have to hate her less than they hate the other guys.

Ok, now you're not making any sense once again.

Yeah, that's why you're going to be surprised when Biden wins in November.

With Poll numbers like that??? The only way he can win at this point is if he were to cheat. Trump is crushing him in every swing, and that is very bad for Biden mathematically, not only is Trump exceeding Biden in the States he has to win, but other States that previously were not in play are up now.

Remember, unlike MAGA, the independents also consume media outside the far-right extremist MSM.

They do, so yeah, remember that.

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Biden: “4 more years! Pause.”

was a great speech!

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As bad as Biden is it’s a choice between a serious politician or a criminal who dances to YMCA and rambles about sharks. Simple choice.

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kamala’s speech was the most informative of them all:

"And so for years we have worked to expand investment in community banks because, you see, community banks specialize in providing loans and financial assistance to small business owners, in particular those in overlooked and underserved communities, including rural communities. And as the name suggests, community banks are in the community," the vice president proclaimed.

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"And so for years we have worked to expand investment in community banks because, you see, community banks specialize in providing loans and financial assistance to small business owners, in particular those in overlooked and underserved communities, including rural communities. And as the name suggests, community banks are in the community," the vice president proclaimed.

Umm...

“So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’”

“So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that.”

The former president proclaimed.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/23/biden-trump-finances-00164566

Now this is seriously bad....

Democrats in recent days largely downplayed Trump’s new financial lead in the same way Trump’s allies had when Biden was running ahead in the money race — saying the president would have enough money to compete.

But privately, several Democratic strategists and donors were reeling.

“There was the strategy of raising all this money on the front end so we could have this huge edge,” said one Biden bundler, granted anonymity to speak candidly. “The whole point of it was to come out with a sizable cash advantage and, you know, we’re now even and it’s June. … I have no other word for it other than ‘depression’ among Biden supporters.”

Another major Biden bundler, also granted anonymity, called the development “disappointing, but not surprising.”

In the 2024 money race, not only was Trump out-raising Biden, but he also had more cash on hand. And Republican megadonors, too, rolled out enormous checks for Trump in recent days, including $50 million from longtime GOP donor Timothy Mellon to a pro-Trump super PAC.

Several Biden donors insisted that they expected — and planned — for Trump to close the gap after he clinched the Republican nomination, comparing it to when Mitt Romney caught up to then-President Barack Obama in fundraising over the summer of 2012. Part of the disparity between the campaigns was that Biden was spending more heavily, building “out an unbelievable campaign structure in battleground states,” while “Trump has done nothing,” said Chip Forrester, co-chair of the Biden-Harris Southern finance committee.

Biden jumping without a parachute.

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Democrats in recent days largely downplayed Trump’s new financial lead in the same way Trump’s allies had when Biden was running ahead in the money race — saying the president would have enough money to compete.

Good thing Trump banned abortion, or Biden might have something to worry about!

But no amount of campaigning can buy Trump out of that hole. Which is why Biden is ahead by 11 million plus abortion.

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As bad as Biden is it’s a choice between a serious politician or a criminal who dances to YMCA and rambles about sharks. Simple choice.

Ok, so for the Dems attacks: J6, Convicted felon, sharks, and abortion....., that's all they got! Oh, Trump got this!

I'll go with the felon that puts America first and that will close the border, deport illegals, and lower taxes, I like Food as well.

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Ok, so for the Dems attacks: J6, Convicted felon, sharks, and abortion.....,

Well, that and actual policy, a roaring economy with a high consumer confidence index, border legislation blocked by the right, just waiting for a Democrat majority to unlock, and the fact that Trump is also saying things like this:

“So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’”

“So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that.”

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kamala’s speech was the most informative of them all:

Easily more informative than Trump's immigrant fight club, or repeatedly bragging about passing a cognitive test.

Go Biden Harris 24!

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I'll go with the felon that puts America first and that will close the border, deport illegals, and lower taxes

You and the rest of MAGA will. But that's not enough to win by votes. The only way Trump can "win" in November is if he is more successful at overthrowing the government this time than he was last time Biden trounced him.

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Joe' s policies are leading the world full steam ahead into WW3. Actually, correction , those are not his policies, he just reads them off those cards with big bold letters. Nobody really knows who is really making policy decisions in the WH presently.

This is the Kremlin take on the matter. But they want Trump to be president, so anyone intelligent disregards the Russian take on the matter.

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Good thing Trump banned abortion,

No, he didn't and if Biden says that, I pray that he does, the media will be on that like flies on poo. 

or Biden might have something to worry about!

Yup!

Democrats in recent days largely downplayed Trump’s new financial lead in the same way Trump’s allies had when Biden was running ahead in the money race — saying the president would have enough money to compete.

But privately, several Democratic strategists and donors were reeling.

“There was the strategy of raising all this money on the front end so we could have this huge edge,” said one Biden bundler, granted anonymity to speak candidly. “The whole point of it was to come out with a sizable cash advantage and, you know, we’re now even and it’s June. … I have no other word for it other than ‘depression’ among Biden supporters.”

But no amount of campaigning can buy Trump out of that hole.

He won't need to, just look at the state of affairs. 72% of Americans feel less safe under Joe, so...

Which is why Biden is ahead by 11 million plus abortion.

With zero verifiable proof, trolling as usual.

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