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13 young students murdered at party in Mexico border city

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Sadly, this is not surprising. The level of violence in CJ has been extremely high for over 2 years now, and there is an entire generation of criminal sociopaths in that area who will kill anyone for virtually any reason.

Mexico really needs to crack down on these murderers. But so far, the Mexican state has refused to do so. Oh, sure, there are some symbolic deployments of military units. But how often do they actually effect arrests? They don't have proper investigative capabilities.

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“It must have been a huge mistake,”

...or maybe not.

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Could have been anything, including revenge on one or more of the parents. No sense jumping to conclusions. A whole bunch of things seems likely besides a mistake.

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Still think that your Friday night line of coke is a harmless and 'victimless' crime? This is where it comes from.

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A mistake sounds unlikely.

More likely this had something to do with someone connected to this community. Revenge or something. Then again, it could just be a part of the rabid violence that these gangs carry out to maintain control.

Bottom line. Legalize the main drugs coming from these gangs and deprive them of their income stream. No money, no new weapons. No money, no ability to pay for all these gun toting thugs.

The harder drugs are to get, the more they carry monetary value and the more income these guys get from trafficing. Since cutting demand has not worked, then take control over the supply chain and price the gangs out of the market.

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American politicians allow drugs into America to control some of the population. and like the both BUSH presidents they make money out of it. the Mexicans just killed the top police investigator on a case in central Mexico. where an American was killed. This can happen in any city in Mexico. never think of taking a vacation there or opening a business.I feel very sorry for the people there as a war is going on between the government and the Drug czars, and the drug czars are winning.All the big Czars live in california and florida. We now have them shooting people here. and the police are doing nothing about it. some are making to much money.

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Still think that your Friday night line of coke is a harmless and 'victimless' crime?

Yes I do.

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dbung10: Still think that your Friday night line of coke is a harmless and 'victimless' crime? This is where it comes from.

I always assumed it came from Columbia.

But Friday night line of coke is a victimless crime. But not even allowing people to have a license for recreational coke use? That is what is not a victimless crime. I grew up hearing about how America was a free country. Seems like an odd thing to say when you have no choice of coke source.

Anyway, its just as likely that marijuana is the cash cow this band of thugs is involved in. And everybody could grow it at home if it was allowed. Instead it seems the anti-pot crowd would rather random teens in Mexico got slaughtered.

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There is a lot of uninformed commentary on this website but the statement that

Mexico really needs to crack down on these murderers. But so far, the Mexican state has refused to do so.

really stands out. Calderon's government is taking the cartels on. Hundreds of Mexican law enforcement personnel are killed every year fighting the cartels, hardly "symbolic deployments".

Why do drug legalization advocates try to sell the notion of the idea that it will bring in tax revenue? How could it be heavily taxed and yet there be no incentive for drug users to buy cheaper drugs from the cartels?

Virtually all cocaine entering the U.S. and Canada comes through Mexico. The Mexican cartels have pushed the Colombians out of distribution.

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As Suzu1 mentions above there is plenty of coke coming from Mexico now too.

Yes legalizing coke and taxing it may solve these problems, but right now that isnt the case. So if you buy coke, you are funding cartels that machine gun down groups of children. It isnt a victimless crime.

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First of all is sad to learn that our worst news are learn also in Japan. Normally we have these news, but now are worst than the normal news line, normally cops, soldiers, "narcos" died in the battles, but the last days in Tijuana and CJ are killing students, maybe it could be a mistake, but What about one of the students buying illegal drugs and forgot to pay? Yes, by one stupid junkie a lot of people die... and narcos are taking things to the extreme killing also consumers (they were killings on the drug rehabilitation clinics of people that distributed drug and wanted to hide there...)

Narcos are worst than any mafia known in the world... hope goverment can delete them of the map... even the italian mafia is more symphatetic..

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American politicians allow drugs into America to control some of the population

Really 13akio13? Is that what your foreign schooling taught you, or is it your assumption about a country you know little about? I think it is the latter. I do not know how drugs could control anyone, except marijuana which makes people enjoy their couch more often. A very ignorant statement.

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Pump24. There has been some foundation for the argument that governments have allowed drugs into certain communities turning a blind eye or failing to prioritize closing the drug trade. There is also evidence that certain parties in intelligence and other groups have been involved in one way or other with drug trade.

I am American and know a great deal about my home country. And it is clear that our policies have been fragmented at best. It is equally clear that poor minority communities have been largely left to live in drug controlled worlds while other areas have had better more effective enforcement.

Again the real solution is not talking about the past. We need to be talking about removing the teeth of these cartails. That means legalizing more drugs and robbing these gangs of their income.

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legalize Marijuana would stop things like this", legalize coke would stop things like this"..... how many criminal activities are we going to have to legalize folks to crimes like go away? And when you do legalize them, how will you feel that said gang is now a corp making money?

Pump24: I think the poster you were relying to was probably referring the the accusation that the Regan (or one of those) admin allowed drugs to flow into poor neighbourhoods. I don't know how true it is, but many I know believe it.

Something drew the gang onto these kids.

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It is hard to keep up with the conspiracy tin foil brigade. Drugs should be legalized and are essentially harmless in and of themselves...but a diabolical cabal allowed drugs in to ruin poor neighborhoods.

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Classic:"It is hard to keep up with the conspiracy tin foil brigade. Drugs should be legalized and are essentially harmless in and of themselves...but a diabolical cabal allowed drugs in to ruin poor neighborhoods."

Suzu1 - You can put the shotgun down. No fish, no water left in that barrel :)

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Drug cartels and the vicious thugs who kill for them are truly evil and must be destroyed at all costs.

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tkoind2: That means legalizing more drugs and robbing these gangs of their income.

Would that really rob them of their income? If legalized I'm assuming what they lose in profit margin they'll make up in volume. They're also the people with the experience in making drugs, so naturally you'd think they'd be the frontrunners in the newly legalized world. You'd have to see a drop in both price and demand with legalized drugs to see these people actually lose money. I haven't seen any hard data or projections, just speculating here.

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Yeah, the illegal dealers would loose volume. But just think of the killing the tobacco companies would make - they have experience in mass producing addictive substances.

Seriously, it is time to consider legalizing drugs and using the money left over from this "war on drugs" to advertise against drugs and helping the addicts. You can say that there will be more addicts but there will be less violence. There will be less money flowing into the pockets of criminals too. Plus tax revenue from the legal drug trade.

This war has proven to be unwinnable - just like prohibition in the 1930s. Time to change tactics.

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You beat me too it. In a few years we will look at drug laws just like prohibition laws.The Taleban problem in Afghanistan would go away immediately for example as they get nearly all their funding from heroin farming

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I think some cities in Mexico need to be occupied by the army for a bit... SOMETHING to make these drug people think twice about doing something as crazy as this.

Either that or legalize drugs and let the underground income dry up. Sick of seeing rich drug dealers completely ignoring (or controlling) law enforcement.

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13akio13: American politicians allow drugs into America to control some of the population.

Where do people come with this bizarre conspiracy stuff?

both BUSH presidents they make money out of it

Of course. It's Bush's fault!

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