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14-year-old Australian boy jailed in Bali on drug charges

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He is a very very lucky boy. Why, oh why, would the family take his to a place that carries the death penalty for drugs if they knew their son had a drug problem? Seems like a horrible idea to me!

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And who failed the 14yr old so that he became a druggie and guess who gets no punishment for not looking after their kid.

Court was lenient but a longer prison term might have given him some gonads to stand up and do the right things.

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Bit of pressure from the Aussie govt saw this lad getting off quite lightly. Probably the last few weeks have scared the bejesus out of him and taught him a lesson. But, back in Aussie where a bag of hooch is no big thing who knows? If nothing else it will serve to send a clear message to Aussies holidaying in Bali (or indonesia as a whole or in fact Thailand), the risks you take in getting high in those countries.

I think it was a sting similar to many that happen in SE Asia. Once in Ko Samui I was staying at a beachfront bungalow. Walking back from the local shop I was curious as to where this side track up a hill led to. Walked up and found it was just a bit of cleared land in preperation for building. Next morning I was sitting about 50 meters from this turn off waiting to get some transport to change some money into Baht. Then I noticed two cops on one of their 125 cc bikes go up this side track. I wondered why as I knew there was nothing up there. A few minutes later a shady local guy pulls up along side me on his motorbike, asks where you from, what you doing, can I give you a lift into town. I turn him down and then comes out the bag of maryuana - very good stuff he said, special morning price and what have you. Eventually he gave up on me and took off. A few moments later out come the two cops from their hideaway and putter on by.

Had I brought the smoke I would have been arrested in the immediate moments after putting in my back pocket. It is a common scam in SE Asia. Then they take you back to the station and do you for every last dollar you have and some you don't. Then they give the hooch back to the same guy and start again.

As someone who has travelled and worked exstensively around Asia my advice is this: if you ever get arrested for anything pay off the first cop whatever he demands. Forget about things such as justice or your rights - just pay the guy and get out. If you don't every stage you move up it gets worse. This is what I think happened to this young Aussie lad and it probably got to this stage by his parents demanding lawyers etc. Just pay them off. 99% of new cops in SE Asia pay about 3 months wages to get their jobs and have to recoup it somehow. Don't demand justice, just ask them what they want. And pay it.

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Phew! I thought for sure I would click on the article and read some sensational news like the boy getting the death sentence or something, so I'm glad that's not the case. Two months is VERY reasonable given that it could have been a lot worse, and I'm glad the courts decided not to punish him further. While I'm not sure about how the whole 'rehabilitation' (for smoking marijuana!!) will go, but I'm pretty sure at the very least that if the kid travels he won't do so with any drugs on him again.

I'm pretty sure that given what the kid's gone through the parents will be a little bit lax when he gets home, but I hope they're not TOO lax. Talk to him openly and sternly, address thoughts on marijuana and drugs in general, and see where to go from there and what is warranted.

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It'S Me,

Exactly, where is the punishment for the drop kick no good parents. They must be really proud of themselves and their wonderful child to allow themselves to get into this situation. Great parenting skills on display there hopefully this experience gives them all a massive wake up call but given the money they have made off this through interviews l doubt anything positive will come of it.

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hell, I don't blame the parents. A teenager made a stupid call - that's what teenagers do. Had he done this in Aussie he would have got a warning and taken home. Parents would have had the stren talk that parents have. problem is, he did it in Bali.

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SimondB.

This is not a simple misstep:

They submitted letters from an Australian doctor and New South Wales state police describing him as a frequent user of marijuana.

Looks like he got hooked way before his Holiday-trio to bali and it wasn't his 1st run-in with the law.

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Simonb,

Funny, you say don't blame the parents yet this kid has a history of drug use so who would you blame?

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Despite the light sentence, the boy's lawyer told AFP: "We are really disppointed with the judge's ruling."

"Disappointed"!? You should be grateful that's all he got. I wonder if he hadn't gotten caught, would his parents have sent him to a rehabiliation program?

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He won't quit smoking pot. It's sad to see someone who's already determined to be a loser at such a young age.

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@smith

Phew! I thought for sure I would click on the article and read some sensational news like the boy getting the death sentence or something

That'd be Texas you're thinking of.

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Proponents of grass will tell you it is not addictive, but the kid's defense is that he is addicted... huh???

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the boy used the drug because he was depressed and had sleeping problems.

No way. I have never had drug at my reach in my parents' house. And surely not on holidays abroad with my parents. Weird family.

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For the aussies,marijuana wasnt an illegal drug!

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Bit of pressure from the Aussie govt saw this lad getting off quite lightly.

Could someone please point our where is says that in the artilce or provide a link to where i can verify that the Aussie Government stepped in.

What a amazing coincidence! When I saw Australian , Bali, and drug charges I too immediately thought of Texas.

Are we talking about the same Texas that is the home of Willie Nelson, the chief spokesman for NORML? Funny, when I saw Austrailian, Bali and Drug charges, I thought of Austrailans, Bali and Drug charges.

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techall,

Could someone please point our where is says that in the artilce or provide a link to where i can verify that the Aussie Government stepped in.

They certainly did assist with this case. He even got a phone call from the PM while in prison.

http://origin.fw.theaustralian.com.au/bali-drug-teen-may-be-moved-from-denpasars-police-station-soon/story-e6freuzi-1226163385043

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Is it wise to put someone who is clearly not a drug addict in rehab?

I am glad he got such an easy sentence, but its nothing to do with his age at all. Its because its just plain stupid to be so worried about marijuana, except where authoritian scumbags just view it as an excuse to be authoritarian, then its deviously clever.

My family had pot in the house all the time when I was a kid. I got contact buzzes all the time. Yet I was a responsible straight A student from elementary school through junior high. In fact, it wasn't until high school that I started to screw off, and I wasn't getting the contact buzzes at home or anywhere else much anymore and was not even smoking it myself since I just never really cared for it (smells nice though!). So go figure.

Those of you calling the boy a loser apparently don't realize how many rich and famous people have smoked it, from presidents to actors to artists to decorated soldiers. Actually the sure sign of a loser is one who lets that word fly so easily, apparently, out of bitterness and envy from the perspective of a loser. Some of you could clearly use a toke.

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rumblebelly

Is it wise to put someone who is clearly not a drug addict in rehab?

From the article, maybe you should try reading it again

The teenager’s legal team argued he belonged in rehabilitation rather than jail because he had a history of drug use

I am glad he got such an easy sentence, but its nothing to do with his age at all. Its because its just plain stupid to be so worried about marijuana, except where authoritian scumbags just view it as an excuse to be authoritarian, then its deviously clever.

Yeah nothing to do with his age!!! Yeah right, it had everything to do with both his age, Aust government involvement and the small amount he had. Maybe you should look at other examples of Australians in jail in Bali for drugs to see the comparisons.

My family had pot in the house all the time when I was a kid. I got contact buzzes all the time. Yet I was a responsible straight A student from elementary school through junior high. In fact, it wasn't until high school that I started to screw off, and I wasn't getting the contact buzzes at home or anywhere else much anymore and was not even smoking it myself since I just never really cared for it (smells nice though!). So go figure.

Yeah go figure, does explain some of your comments maybe.....

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@Spida:

Thanks for the link. I wonder if they are doing anything for the 2 Aussies on Death Row here or the 6 serving life sentences?

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I would not be surprised if this kid's parents are also pot heads!

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techall

Thanks for the link. I wonder if they are doing anything for the 2 Aussies on Death Row here or the 6 serving life sentences?

Hope not, big difference there they where traffickers this clown was just a user. Let the others serve their full punishment especially the 2 on death row.

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what I cant believe is that Gillard and others actually made telephone calls to the kid and his family while he was in jail.... imagine the up roar in Australia if the Indonesian PM called teenagers being held in Australian jails on people smuggling charges to reassure them of his support....

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Rehab or jail for smoking weed? Come on! Let the kid go home!

And no need to blame the parents here - I had great parents but it didnt stop me from making mistakes. All part of life.

Sorry Pig, but but you've lost me mate. I cant tolerate the death penalty, especially for something like drugs. And especially for my fellow country men.

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Dent shop,

Countrymen or not they knew the law before they went. They did the crime they suffer the punishment, maybe if the Australian legal system wasn't so weak we wouldn't have the issues we do

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hell, I don't blame the parents. A teenager made a stupid call - that's what teenagers do. Had he done this in Aussie he would have got a warning and taken home. Parents would have had the stren talk that parents have. problem is, he did it in Bali.

What? If anyone is to blame it IS the parents. A 14 year old with a drug problem? And such a bad problem that he needs to have SEVEN kilos on him in a country that executes drug dealers? Ha! Jail the parents, get the kid in rehab and a better family to live with.

Hate to say it but this kid will be back to this in a matter of months with folks like his.

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They did the crime they suffer the punishment, maybe if the Australian legal system wasn't so weak we wouldn't have the issues we do

and what might be the issues you are referring to??

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better give them a shariyah punishment , chop hands

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Another wayward young bunyip what ventured off the rock, completely oblivious to the fact that the world beyond is not loyk it is back in Oz.

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SEVEN kilos on him

too bad there isnt an edit function when you realise what a mistake you have made.....

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From the article, maybe you should try reading it again

Why do you keep telling people to read when you clearly don't?

A history of drug use and the arguments of his legal counsel do not constitute proof of addiction. And its plain as the nose on your face since the only drug mentioned is marijuana which is not addictive.

Yeah nothing to do with his age!!! Yeah right, it had everything to do with both his age,

My feelings on the matter, which were clearly was I was talking about if you would take the time to READ, are clearly not about his age.

Yeah go figure, does explain some of your comments maybe.....

It certainly might explain why I take the time to read and therefore respond appropriately. It might also explain why I am not launching into reckless attacks on others. It might help you mellow, mate.

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rumblebelly

Why do you keep telling people to read when you clearly don't?

Well lets see einstein, you said "Is it wise to put someone who is clearly not a drug addict in rehab?" yet it clearly states in the article "The teenager’s legal team argued he belonged in rehabilitation rather than jail because he had a history of drug use." and "They submitted letters from an Australian doctor and New South Wales state police describing him as a frequent user of marijuana."

So he clearly has a history of drug use so wouldnt you say he has a drug problem and isnt rehab aimed at helping those with drug problems. It is afterall there in black and white for ya to read buddy.

A history of drug use and the arguments of his legal counsel do not constitute proof of addiction. And its plain as the nose on your face since the only drug mentioned is marijuana which is not addictive.

Oh ok so a 14yo with a history of drug use and you dont see an issue. Lets see he is below the age to smoke and drink but you dont see an issue with him taking drugs... OK!!! Oh and most medical opinions state long term use is addictive. So why not help him before he does infact get to that point.

It certainly might explain why I take the time to read and therefore respond appropriately. It might also explain why I am not launching into reckless attacks on others. It might help you mellow, mate.

Yeah ok what ever you think there. After all your the one who thinks a 14 yo with a history of drug use and criminal record doesnt need rehab. Cool!!! good luck with that theory

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Seriously??? You dont know. WOW head / sand.

Since you made the statement about the current weakness of the Australian legal system perhaps you could provide a few examples... simply claiming that people have their head in the sand isn't any form of support for your claim whatsoever....

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ranger as PM

Ridiculous.

Cronalla ring a bell there..

Is that how you spell it? Yeah, a few bogans with nothing better to do on a Sunday arvo. Compare that to what happened in London, Cairo or Tripoli this summer. Seen worse at schoolies week.

do you mean restricting our rights

Exactly what rights are being denied to you in Australia? Do tell - I cant wait for this one!

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Readers, please keep the discussion civil.

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Truw Dent, true!!! Grams - still, a lot for one afternoon!!

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"They submitted letters from an Australian doctor and New South Wales state police describing him as a frequent user of marijuana."

My question was simple: Is it wise to put someone clearly not an addict into rehab? Nothing you have said has proven he is an addict. Nothing you have said has proven it would be wise to put this teen in rehab with real addicts who have done drugs that are truly addictive. And the wiki on drug rehab mentions several drugs. None of them are marijuana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_rehabilitation

So he clearly has a history of drug use so wouldnt you say he has a drug problem

Don't change the subject. I said he is not a drug addict. I did not say he has no drug problem.

Oh ok so a 14yo with a history of drug use and you dont see an issue.

Not automatically no.

Oh and most medical opinions state long term use is addictive.

Like video games. Not like heroin.

After all your the one who thinks a 14 yo with a history of drug use and criminal record doesnt need rehab.

What criminal record? The single mark he just got? For getting busted with seven grams and not even because he broke a window?

Look dude. You need to cough up some proof that run of the mill marijuana users need rehab, even at 14. Angrily barking at me does not actually help your case.

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He'll be lighting up a nice,big,phat celebratory one when he gets home.Thanking his lucky stars that it wasn't the hardcore/class A drugs.

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So how did he get out of being hung? Habitual user, caught with drugs, so why is he not going to do a west gate hornpipe?

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Why take drugs to Bali? Why?

Especially when you know what they do to people in SE Asia that are caught with them.

Besides, Bali is such a beautiful, leisurely place... does it really need chemical enhancement?

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Why take drugs to Bali? Why?

He didnt. He bought it there.

Besides, Bali is such a beautiful place

Actually it is a slum with resort hotels. Dont go there. It is covered in garbage, touts, dealers (why they arent arrested is interesting), dirty stray dogs, corrupt and filthy "police" sleaze bags and ugly tourists with cheap braids.

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Actually it is a slum with resort hotels. Dont go there. It is covered in garbage, touts, dealers (why they arent arrested is interesting), dirty stray dogs, corrupt and filthy "police" sleaze bags and ugly tourists with cheap braids.

And it looked so nice in the pictures...

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One thing is to get high and wasted everyday out in Willawong canyon watching great white sharks chase the stoned out surfers in your OWN country, Australia, which is big WESTERN country in the MIDDLE of ASIA, and to the north you have INDONESIA, a Muslim majority country, they do not mess around with drugs, alcohol, and Bali is I guess like the Tijuana, Baja Mexico for Americans in San Diego, LA USA, a cheap place used to hang out, have fun but Indonesia is no Mexico, they are majority Muslims but if you are way too stoned out of your fried brains to remember that Indonesia is NOT PART OF OZ, that they do have their own laws and say this stupid jerk kid ever grows up to say become a legal ADULT and this rocks for brains happens to check out Malaysia?? Well if JT is still around, mark my words, we will have people here sobbing and crying over this guy getting the death penalty in a few years, better to have some kind of AC type tv cms in Australia, you smoke dope, dont be a dope and do it up in Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia etc..right mates??

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If there is a westerner being sanctioned by 'islamic law' for drug trafficking, their medias will condemning these measures were savages and uncivilized and pretending victimhood!

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