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If the shooter is Muslim we need to seal the borders, start registries, and even open some camps. If he's American, no changes needed.

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That's correct. The determination on whether the shooter is an anomaly within their group, is whether or not they are Muslim.

Muslim = representative of all Muslims

Non-Muslim = random nutter

Regardless of which, no need to change the gun laws, they work perfectly as they are. Personal grenade launchers for all!

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This could easily have been prevented if everybody in the park was armed.

A few hundred people could easily have taken out a few dozen.

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Another day in shoot-em-up U.S.A. Indeed it could have been worse.

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"This could easily have been prevented if everybody in the park was armed

A few hundred people could easily have taken out a few dozen."

A park full of hundreds of people blazing away with their firearms. Slobber...slobber...get down boy!

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We just need to do whatever we can to feel safe from these shooters. The Muslims ones, I mean.

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The easiest way to reduce crime in New Orleans is to incorporate the city into Slidell just to the south.

Looks like black lives matter...until they don't in the Big Easy.

Cheers

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Do any of the JT posters who are 2nd Amendment experts know if street gangs are considered militias and thereby protected by the US Constitution? The gangs want to protect themselves from the government, too.

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As far as the NRA are concerned, even people on the no-fly list deserve the right to buy guns: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/nra-defends-allowing-people-on-no-fly-lists-to-buy-guns/

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NRA investigators on the way to determine which group consisted of good guys with guns.

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@SuperLib

If the shooter is Muslim we need to seal the borders, start registries, and even open some camps. If he's American, no >changes needed.

Don't need to seal the borders, it's already reasonably difficult for Americans to flee without getting flagged by the Border Patrol. We effectively have registries also, things like Stingray towers listening in on everyone's cellphones and patrol cars with license plate scanners, in addition to the nationwide background check system. As for camps.....got those already too: the US has one of the highest prison populations in the world. In the slide toward becoming a police state, the US is a few steps ahead of Europe.

@PTownsend

Do any of the JT posters who are 2nd Amendment experts know if street gangs are considered militias and thereby >protected by the US Constitution?

I'm not an expert but I would say "No, because they are not considered 'well-regulated'."

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NRA investigators on the way to determine which group consisted of good guys with guns.

If both groups had guns, they'll say they were all good guys.

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I'm not an expert but I would say "No, because they are not considered 'well-regulated'."

Not in comparison to the other militias they aren't.

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Sounds like a gang shootout to me. You don't get two "groups" having a shootout unless they're either gang members or even worse, an organized criminal group.

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There are too many Democrat run cities in America that are full of crime and poverty. New Orleans, though not as bad as Chicago today, has long been one of the worst places for gang wars and murder in America.

@Strangerland

You do know 'black lives matter' is in reference to being shot by the police, right? I give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't too ignorant to know that.

So everyone is ignorant if they disagree with the motives of the Black Lives Matter movement? That's well... ignorant. It ignores the facts in favor of the PC grievance culture of the modern Left.

The BLM movement grew out of the incident in Ferguson where an "unarmed black man" physically attacked a policeman. Michael Brown made every indication that he wanted to kill the policeman. How can this be since he was unarmed you ask? Well, apparently at the ends of his arms were fists which he used to beat the cop with in an attempt to take away his service weapon. Even the Obama administration agreed that the incident was self defense - hasn't that sunk in yet?

Out of this we get the Black Lives Matter group where the white policeman's life apparently does not matter. Under these circumstances how can anyone be surprised that BLM is seen as a racist group? Oh, and then there are the "fry'em like bacon" chants. Those were a sure giveaway of their hateful motivations. But the Left will not look at that because it doesn't fit their worldview so they are discounted completely. "Black lives matter" indeed.

The bigger issue that really "matters" is why are these police concentrated in areas that are minority dominated like Ferguson and many parts of New Orleans? Officer Wilson and other cops are in American cities and towns in such high numbers because of the high amount of crime that exists in these mostly Democrat controlled places. In the 1990's the Clinton administration - goaded by black clergy - insisted on better police protection in crime riddled minority areas. Now decades later add in the Obama administrations hateful and coded racial innuendo about white people and white law enforcement in particular and you get hate groups like BLM.

There have been incidents where white policeman have unjustly killed black people. Most if not all of these incidents have resulted in judicial proceedings that either determined the killing was justified or in the policemen being brought up on murder charges. The lives of black people are not being ignored. They do matter. They matter just as much as everyone else' lives - including policemen. "I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't too ignorant to know that".

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Just another day in the US. Nothing to be surprised about at all. In fact, wouldn't you be surprised if there WEREN'T a shooting in a day?

In fact, so bad is the situation now that the NRA is fighting for the right to sell guns to terrorists, while the gun nutters want to keep innocent Syrian refugees out for fear they MIGHT be terrorists! and just the other day they found a cache of HUNDREDS of weapons in one person's house.

Nah, I think it would take about four gun massacres in one day, all at schools, for anyone to be surprised anymore.

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Several hundred people were gathered in the park at the time for an unpermitted block party

Several hundred unruly, belligerent, armed, 40oz- in hand, parade revelers. Sounds like anarchy.

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Maybe I missed it. Where in the article does it say the people involved were black? Looks like the cops aren't the only ones guilty of racial profiling.

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Yay! Wolfpack! Tell em!

Fadamor, you are right. Nothing in the article says anything about the race. It is called media bias. It was in the 9th Ward of New Orleans~. That should tell you something. And if it don't.. watch the videos.

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-sixteen-people-shot-at-new-orleans-park-after-gunmen-shot-into-large-party-videos/

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Fadamor, you are right. Nothing in the article says anything about the race. It is called media bias. It was in the 9th Ward of New Orleans~. That should tell you something. And if it don't.. watch the videos.

This is Black on Black violence, plain and simple and where are the BLM and the anti-cop people now? As far as those who keep saying the US needs stricter gun control laws, the majority of the shooters (if they will ever be caught) will be found to be prior convicted felons, who by US law, are not able to buy guns and would not be able to pass a background check to get one. Yet they get one. There was no police brutality, and if you closely, you will see that the assembly was "unpermitted" one which means that no one had taken the efforts to go through the city hall process of registering the event and ensuring that some police would have been there. If the police had been there, then we probably would get the same old tired excuses of blaming the cops for the shooting and that they are not doing the most to protect the citizens.

I get so tired of the BLM and other liberal organizations claiming that the police need to do more "community policing" yet have no idea what that means. That means that the cops need to interact more with the community, but also the community needs to interact with the cops. Stop covering for the low life's that want to shoot up a peaceful function, over probably something so trivial that it's not even worth it. That whole "stop snitchin" movement hasn't done anything but allow criminals to remain hidden in plain sight, and this only leads to cops getting frustrated knowing that they can't just round people up and throw them in jail because our Constitution doesn't allow for it, yet these same criminals play off that and cause terror and mayhem in the Black community. And before the tirade of down votes get cast my way for this post, I need to remind those that I am a Black man, who grew up in areas like the 9th ward and have seen how the bad ones screw it up for the rest of us in trying to make our communities safer and less violent. More Black New Orleans males will be killed by other Black New Orleans males this year than the cops. It happens every year, and the BLM movement needs to start worrying about that rather than some perceived case of what they call racism.

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As far as those who keep saying the US needs stricter gun control laws, the majority of the shooters (if they will ever be caught) will be found to be prior convicted felons, who by US law, are not able to buy guns and would not be able to pass a background check to get one. Yet they get one.

Thanks for pointing out how having guns legal allows for them to get into the hands of felons and criminals.

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Maybe I missed it. Where in the article does it say the people involved were black?

DuD! Look beyond the article, its not rocket science pal.

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Thanks for pointing out how having guns legal allows for them to get into the hands of felons and criminals.

@ Strangeland: Even in Japan where gun ownership is very limited, the Yakuza criminals are still able to get their hands on them. Just like drugs and other things that people are not supposed to have, if you ban it, people will still find a way to buy it and people will find a market to sell it.

Felons and criminals by their nature will not obey the laws. So like in Chicago and D.C. where they had some of the most restrictive gun control laws that went above the Constitution, they still had some of the highest murder rates and gun crimes.

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Even in Japan where gun ownership is very limited, the Yakuza criminals are still able to get their hands on them.

Quantify this please. Post some numbers, and we can see if your comparison is even remotely relevant.

But I think we both know it's not.

Sorry, but if you are going to sell guns in stores, then criminals are going to get guns in large numbers. If you don't sell guns in stores, some criminals may get guns, but it's not even going to be in a remotely comparable number. It's a fact of life, no matter how much gun addicts would like to deny it.

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To even make a dent in the supply you would need to aggressively channel the necessary resources into law enforcement to root out and eliminate the suppliers who are selling black market weapons to drug dealers and killers. Criminals do not buy guns in gun stores where it can be traced back to them. They do not get guns at gun shows. They do not buy them from Internet sources. Criminals only rarely steal guns. They get guns from their “social network,” i.e. friends and persons known to them, but generally not from the various legal sources available to them. Shocking, I know. :/

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Criminals do not buy guns in gun stores where it can be traced back to them. They do not get guns at gun shows.

No, but you're foolish if you don't think that they are coming from the gun stores and the gun shows before they get into the hands of the criminals.

They get guns from their “social network,” i.e. friends and persons known to them, but generally not from the various legal sources available to them.

And the social network gets them from gun stores and gun shows.

Shocking I know :/

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Criminals that get them from family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts etc may be using a legally licensed firearm. But I think the majority go through unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed but corrupt dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These networks of dealers that sell guns illegally to black market traffickers that turn around and sell these illegally on the street are not going to be impacted by closing gun stores, they are only going to be pushed further underground.

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And where do you think the black market dealers get the guns from Lizz?

I know you don't want to admit it, but the fact is illegal guns started out legal.

Shocking I know :/

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As long as there are legally licensed but corrupt dealers willing to sell to anyone diverting guns from legal to illegal markets which the NRA has made it very difficult to prosecute a majority of the guns recovered from crimes are going to continue to be trafficked by a very small percentage of users.

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As long as there are legally licensed but corrupt dealers willing to sell to anyone diverting guns from legal to illegal markets which the NRA has made it very difficult to prosecute a majority of the guns recovered from crimes are going to continue to be trafficked by a very small percentage of users.

As long as guns are legal to citizens in society, a significant number of guns are going to end up in the hands of criminals who are not supposed to have them.

It's a direct proportion. The more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there will be. The opposite of course also being true.

Shocking I know :/

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Alphaape: I notice you don't want to touch the issue in which the NRA is sticking up for the right to sell guns to terrorists, which falls exactly into what Strangerland was talking about: the ease at which ANYONE can get guns in the US leads to FAR more numbers having them, and far more likelihood of this kind of thing being the norm, which it is in the US.

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Three witnesses told the newspaper they saw a man with a silver-colored machine gun

Five will get you ten that guy didn't buy that gun in a store.

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smithinjapan - I notice you don't want to touch the issue in which the NRA is sticking up for the right to sell guns to terrorists, which falls exactly into what Strangerland was talking about: the ease at which ANYONE can get guns in the US leads to FAR more numbers having them, and far more likelihood of this kind of thing being the norm, which it is in the US.

The issue is black on black crime. Some people prefer to blame an inanimate object for the actions of the human beings who chose to shoot up New Orleans, or Paris, or any other place where street gangs and terrorists chose to kill other human beings.

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