196 Democratic U.S. lawmakers sue Trump over foreign state payments to businesses

The fact that only Democrats are suing Trump for his outrageous and blatant emoluments violations says much more about the Republicans than it does about the Democrats.

Yeah, this batch of Democrats are the whiniest bunch ever. Keep it up and the party will remain in the wilderness it occupies where it belongs.

Yeah, this batch of Democrats are the whiniest bunch ever. Keep it up and the party will remain in the wilderness it occupies where it belongs.

Yeah! Who are they to get between Trump and an opportunity to make money?!

Keep telling yourself that. Hey, did you see Donny is now under investigation?

Keep telling yourself that. Hey, did you see Donny is now under investigation?

Hah, so much for his 'vindication'.

The idea that he wouldn't be under investigation after Comey's testimony is laughable.

The complaint said Trump had not sought congressional approval for any of the payments his hundreds of businesses had received from foreign governments since he took office in January, even though the Constitution requires him to do so.

Trump'ss doing what the anyone-but-Trump voters predicted he would do, which is use the office of the president to increase his personal wealth. But then leopards don’t change spots, do they.

So far he’s shown he has no principles, no consistent political beliefs. The only thing he cares about is making himself and his family richer. These conflicts of interest show that he thinks the American people who voted for him are suckers. And he’s right; his supporters won’t question anything he does. Even if he violates the US Constitution.

He’s siding with rich tyrants around the world, joining up with his fellow global elitists in attempts to capture even more of the world’s resources and wealth to further enrich the .01%. 

Why won’t he show his tax info? What’s he hiding?

Yeah, this batch of Democrats are the whiniest bunch ever

Ah diddums. Are people being mean to Donny-chan again? The only whining I hear is from apologists like you.

Trump's fans will support him in making a little cash on the side from his Presidency. If they haven't gotten angry about the other stuff yet, I'm guessing Trump feels pretty confident he can walk all over them.

Hmm, just like OJ Simpson - criminal law suit doesn't seem to be working too well (nor the democratic process in the case of Trump), but a civil law suit has a better than average chance.

Keep telling yourself that. Hey, did you see Donny is now under investigation?

Yeah and? What does that have anything to do with Democrats not winning any elections and remain the party of the complete delusional fringe?

The idea that he wouldn't be under investigation after Comey's testimony is laughable.

Bring it on! LOL I want the Democrats to spend as much tax payer money as possible, please go and watch again, as it has been for the past 6 months a bunch of rabbit holes.

Yeah and? What does that have anything to do with Democrats not winning any elections and remain the party of the complete delusional fringe?

Absolutely nothing. What does your comment have to do with the price of olives in Mongolia?

The fact that only Democrats are suing Trump for his outrageous and blatant emoluments violations says much more about the Republicans than it does about the Democrats.

yes, that fact simply tells me it is partisan politics as was stated. If this is all the Dems have, its going to be a rough 2018 election for them.

Hey, did you see Donny is now under investigation?

I dont know, Loretta Lynch told me it was a matter.

Yes, I am quite sure they are looking into whether or not Trump committed obstruction or not. They should also be looking into lots of other people to see whether or not they did anything wrong. This should not be the first thing or only thing that is being investigated.

So if Trump is under investigation as part of this Russia probe, then so are Hillary and all her people too as they were involved in the 2016 election as well. Hey, did you see Hillary is under investigation?

yes, that fact simply tells me it is partisan politics as was stated. If this is all the Dems have, its going to be a rough 2018 election for them

No comment on the actual emoluments clause. I suppose you think its okay for Trump's private business to benefit from his supposed public service?

So if Trump is under investigation as part of this Russia probe, then so are Hillary and all her people too as they were involved in the 2016 election as well. Hey, did you see Hillary is under investigation?

Childish logic, not how this work. Weren't you just a few days ago defending Trump and how he's not under investigation? Guess ya got a bit ahead of youtse there.

Yes, I am quite sure they are looking into whether or not Trump committed obstruction or not.

But weren't you just claiming the other day he isn't under investigation, and that Comey's testimony vindicated him?

But weren't you just claiming the other day he isn't under investigation, and that Comey's testimony vindicated him?

yes, he was NOT under investigation at that time. Of course he (and every one else) should be investigated as part of the Special Counsel. But this should not be the first thing or only thing that Mueller is looking at. He should be looking at all people and both sides. So Trump under investigation means nothing because everyone else is under investigation as well. It just suits the headline to put his name only there.

Childish logic, not how this work. Weren't you just a few days ago defending Trump and how he's not under investigation? Guess ya got a bit ahead of youtse there.

he was NOT under investigation all those months that most of you here and the media were hoping and praying that he was. How is it childish logic? If Trump is now under investigation as part of the Mueller investigation, so is everyone else involved in the 2016 election. How are Hillary and any Dems exempt from that?

All I needed to know about this leak is that this article it is ABOVE the shooting on both the websites of cnn.com and msnbc.com and is the main article with a picture on abcnews.com. it is at the top of the page on Washingtonpost.com too, yet have to scroll to bottom to find it on newyorktimes.com. They have to lay low because they are fake news so if it is there too, we can say its fake. So they just let WaPo handle this one, so they can have the next manufactured scandal.

This isnt breaking news, its just a way to get the Dem inspired shooting further to the bottom of the page. As you guys said, you knew he was under investigation after Comey testified, so why is it breaking news NOW?

This Trump getting sued story was supposed to be the main attack of the day, but wasnt strong enough to overcome the shooting news. So here is the Trump under investigation breaking news.

yes, he was NOT under investigation at that time.

On June 9th, you said: *So the next 6 months will be hearings asking Mueller if Trump has an active investigation for obstruction? Because he doesnt have one now.*

And yet:

The obstruction-of-justice investigation of the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter. Mueller’s office has taken up that work, and the preliminary interviews scheduled with intelligence officials indicate that his team is actively pursuing potential witnesses inside and outside the government.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html

Turns out he was under investigation when you made that post on June 8th.

Well assuming the leaked story is actually correct this time, then yes you are right. Remember, Comey said MANY MANY of these types of stories are inaccurate in his testimony.

Ok so he was fired on May 9th and didnt leak the memos to the newspaper until early morning of May 16th he said. So how was Trump already under investigation days later by the FBI when the FBI didnt even have the memos until YESTERDAY?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/13/comey-leaked-memos-now-possession-fbi-report/

Oops! Something wrong on the timeline.....

Anyway back to the issue. Trump owns hotels and buildings with his name on them. That's who he is and what he does, not like he got elected and then started building them. His name is on them, does he take his name off? Does he have to sell them all? For those of you who say this is against the Constitution how to you resolve this issue? A businessman who owns anything at all can just never be President? It seems to me this statute was about gifts of money and things of value, not for legitimate business but I could be wrong.

Hey what happened to the money from books that Obama sold to overseas universities?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/10/trump-foreign-government-income-obama-books

Ok so he was fired on May 9th and didnt leak the memos to the newspaper until early morning of May 16th he said. So how was Trump already under investigation days later by the FBI when the FBI didnt even have the memos until YESTERDAY?

Hard to say, as they didn't give a specific date, but it looks very possible that he may have already been under investigation by May 16th. After all, he told the Russians on May 10th that he fired him to get rid of the investigation, and the firing itself was extremely suspicious. So it's not unreasonable to think they would have started investigating him pretty much right away. Comey's memos just help with that investigation, they weren't necessary to start it. So I'm not sure why you think there is something wrong with the timeline - that's a non sequitur.

The slow descent into madness begins.

So the day the Trump fires Comey it is automatically assumed that there was the specific charge of obstruction of justice against Trump himself and an investigation was opened on Trump immediately? With no evidence in hand and without speaking to either person involved in the conversation or anyone else orbiting it like the AG or Deputy AG. That just proves that being under investigation means nothing. It used to be that a crime occurs, evidence is collected and then someone is investigated for the crime.

Seems now anything that happens around Trump an investigation is just immediately opened then they try to find some evidence to justify calling something a crime. AS well as trying to find someone in advance to pin the yet unproven crime on for when they do prove it.

I am quite sure that once Trump is found not guilty of the obstruction, it wont leak or be announced. Then when the entire investigation is done it will just be stated that no proof of it was found, not even that it didnt happen.

So the day the Trump fires Comey it is automatically assumed that there was the specific charge of obstruction of justice against Trump himself and an investigation was opened on Trump immediately?

Sure. The second he fired Comey, my first thought was 'wow, did he just fired the head of the FBI to get rid of the investigation? Is he that stupid?', which was then followed up by finding out he had said to the Russians that's exactly what he did, causing me to think 'yeah, I guess he is that stupid'.

To think that others with the power to investigate him wouldn't be thinking the same thing is pretty limited thinking.

With no evidence in hand

You mean other than telling the Russians that it's exactly what he did?

That just proves that being under investigation means nothing.

It means there is suspicion that a crime occurred.

Or people found out that Trump actually was not under investigation and had never had been and that he knew that. Then they found out Comey had told him and would have to testify to that, but it doesnt fit their narrative for Trump to be cleared. So leak back to the newspapers that he really is under investigation THIS TIME, believe us. Narrative back on track for months to come.

As far as the foreign state payments I just read that Trump said he would figure out what money specifically came from foreign governments and donate it to the US treasury at the end of every year. But I guess that still isnt good enough for Dems who want to score political points with this. Seems they want all of Trump's businesses to figure out any payments for anything that came from any foreigner at all (not just official government spendings, but also personal bills) and report it.

Guess who's under investigation for obstruction of justice. I thought Come vindicated Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-counsel-probing-trump-possible-obstruction-report-225755578.html



There is this civil law suit; there is the apparent criminal obstruction-of-justice investigation; and the first wacko with a rifle targeting Republicans who still stand by their man.

Gee, the worm has less turned than spun around this week.

It seems Republicans just don't get it: the problem is less them than Trump. Nothing will happen until that stand-by-your-man mindset alters among them.

And dealing with Trump as psychologically balanced and normal - it is as Comey reportedly said, 'Don't leave me alone in a room with the president. He cannot be treated as normal nor be regarded as normal at all any more.

And the Trump supporters, is it the man, what he has said or stands for or rejection of the old 'swamp'. Whichever, obviously there is a new swamp in town. Taking Trump away will clear up a lot. And it would take away so much of the grounds for protest, law suits, criminal investigations and causes for wackjobs with rifles. I just think that Pence would never get the same amount of guano but the Republicans just do not get it.

It does seem though that this week a worm did turn.

There was an election and Trump won. He is the legitimate President of the United States. With that comes all the powers that the President is given under the Constitution. Yet you agree that people who disagree with Trump or are sad that Hillary lost can just protest, file lawsuits, start criminal investigations and SHOOT people until they get what they want?

So you guys are just basically deciding to keep up the violence, obstruction and false accusations until enough Republicans decide to offer up Trump as a sacrifice to you? Not gonna happen.

first wacko with a rifle targeting Republicans who still stand by their man.

So this is also an attempt to scare people into agreeing to removing Trump? So you are ok with this happening again as many times as needed until it leads to Trump being removed?

At this point all the paid Russian contributors are doing is providing entertainment for those resisting Trump.

I see we now talk about Trump's disapproval numbers since his approval ratings a so low.....

The obstruction of justice charges coupled with the team of hard-hitting lawyers Mueller is putting together says it all. Wait until the rats start turning on each other shrieking for immunity. Bring it on......

"Guess who's under investigation for obstruction of justice."

Hillary?   Even if it's Donald, so what?  Hillary's been under FBI investigation for how many months now, and she's still free to talk BS, lol

If Trump had just released his tax returns as he promised, and has been customary, there would have been no need for a lawsuit. Instead, we have Trump and his trolls winning so much they must be sick of it. Judging by their posts, they are only sick of facts and being incorrect about their baby in the White House.

Reading the Trump Trolls constantly defending him would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. At first, it was maddening that they wouldn't accept facts no matter how many times they were shown, and that they would always try to deflect or obfuscate. Now, it is simply sad to read their posts.

That said, I wonder if it isn't sadder to continue to engage them. They simply refuse to accept anything that goes against their guy no matter how true. Knowing they refuse to accept facts and choosing to engage them anyway brings us down to their level. Stick to facts and let the Trump Trolls wallow in their own anger and fright.

If Trump had just released his tax returns as he promised, and has been customary, there would have been no need for a lawsuit.

Even if Trump did that, there is no way on God's green Earth the left would treat Trump fairly-EVER! So there's no need to pacify them.

Instead, we have Trump and his trolls winning so much they must be sick of it. Judging by their posts, they are only sick of facts and being incorrect about their baby in the White House.

No, we just get sick of liberals whining for the sake of being sore losers.

Reading the Trump Trolls constantly defending him would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. At first, it was maddening that they wouldn't accept facts no matter how many times they were shown, and that they would always try to deflect or obfuscate. Now, it is simply sad to read their posts.

I think what YOU think is factual may NOT necessarily be THE facts. Trump is not perfect, the man makes mistakes, but the man wants what's best for the country and even if rich snooby silicon valley or Hollywood liberals want to paint a different picture, please do, but there are millions that don't agree with the crap that the MSM and the Democrats are trying to spread.

That said, I wonder if it isn't sadder to continue to engage them. They simply refuse to accept anything that goes against their guy no matter how true. Knowing they refuse to accept facts and choosing to engage them anyway brings us down to their level. Stick to facts and let the Trump Trolls wallow in their own anger and fright.

I'll say this, many of us feel the exact opposite about the left.

What is bad is that the GOP has been dragging it's feet with ethics and governence... why?  Because once again, they're drunk on power.   If a majority opposition party didn't exist at this point in time to counter-act their party before country mentality, nothing would be done about Trump cronyism and the US would be completely ****ed.

Once again, since some people don't listen.   Greed leads to CORRUPTION, Corruption leads to DESTRUCTION.  Apparently some people don't want our country to be around any more because they're too "party before country" minded.

A case to sue the POTUS has to have strong enough evidence to build an effective case.   Or it would be pointless to bring up a case.

Swift: "Reading the Trump Trolls constantly defending him would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. At first, it was maddening that they wouldn't accept facts no matter how many times they were shown, and that they would always try to deflect or obfuscate. Now, it is simply sad to read their posts."

Har!   If Donald Trump ran into a burning building and grabbed two children and ran out of that burning building and saved them, the New York Times headline would read "Donald Trump runs from historic structure as it burns to the ground"

Oh my...

Huckabee: Democrats are afraid Trump will succeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnjDP36-jDg

blacklabel: Of course he (and every one else) should be investigated as part of the Special Counsel. But this should not be the first thing or only thing that Mueller is looking at. He should be looking at all people and both sides.

Let's try this one again.

The purpose of the investigation by the FBI, from Comey:

“The F.B.I., as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 Presidential election. And that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coördination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”

Why did it start? That was asked when Comey testified:

Question: Don't you need some action or some information besides just attending a meeting, having been paid to attend a conference, that a picture was taken, or that you traveled to a country before your open to investigation for counterintelligence by the FBI?

Answer: The standard is, I think there's a couple different at play. A credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe that an American may be acting as an agent of a foreign power.

What about Clinton?

“If this committee comes to you with information about the Clinton campaign, will you add that to your investigation?” Mr. Nunes asked Mr. Comey. Mr. Comey said he was not prepared to comment on the particulars of contacts between Russians and any campaigns. But “if people bring us info,” he said, “we will evaluate it.”

So....from the top.

The FBI was investigating Russia's meddling in the election. They received information they deemed credible about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, so they are including that in their investigation. There hasn't been any evidence that Trump himself acted improperly. If someone brings information about Clinton that they also deem to be credible, they will include that in their investigation as well.

Here's my best guess as to what you think is going on:

The FBI is investigating Trump for collusion with Russia and they haven't found any evidence so it's all just a witch hunt and they should end the investigation.

Trump's alleged dodgy deals have been under scrutiny for years; a bit more can only add to the fun. He needs to be hit where it hurts the hardest; in the wallet. Dismantle his empire and distribute the illl gotten gains amongst the poor and needy.

Super: Your post is quite succinct in using direct quotes to refute incorrect information. Of course, that post will in some way be discounted because it does not fit with the narrative you were refuting. Sad.