Police kill suspect in 2 deadly shootings in Copenhagen

Get used to it, Europe. It's only going to get worse.

"Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt called it a “political attack...."

She doesn't have a clue, does she. This was a religious attack, not a "political" one. When national leaders refuse to confront the blindingly obvious reality, then there really is no hope.

'blasphemous'

With the slogan of a famous Danish beer commercial in mind - 'Blasphemy: Probably the most ridiculous idea in the world.'

The comments from Helle Thorning-Schmidt demonstrate an extraordinary case of denial.

Political attack? Now she's sounding like Obama, wanting to call it anything but radical Islamist. Acknowledge the attack for what it really is and stop window dressing it!

I really doubt this was anything political and back to the Jihadists still angry about some silly cartoons. Time to grow up and understand the the rest of the world DOES NOT FOLLOW OR CARE about Sharia law. Last time I checked, Denmark was not part of Saudi Arabia, right?? If these radical terrorists are so disgusted by the FREEDOM OF THE WEST, hey, get on the plane, train, bus, boat and go over to Syria, Afghanistan etc...plenty of folk there waiting to take in more TRUE BELIEVERS into the welcoming arms of ISIS, ISIL, or what ever they want to call themselves, nothing but THUG TERRORISTS.

Police kill suspect in 2 deadly shootings in Copenhagen

Now I wonder where all the far left wingers are? Kind of interesting that they haven't said word one of this attack.

They were outraged when Liberal activist Craig Stephen Hicks murdered three kids over a parking space, but they are nowhere to be heard over this...... Geeee, I wonder why?

JeffLeeFeb. 15, 2015 - 03:23PM JST Get used to it, Europe. It's only going to get worse.

As usual on this subject you are spot on! Europe created this by accepting any and all persons who claimed political asylum without properly vetting their true reasons. They were trying to create a Liberal Multicultural utopia, but what they have on their hands is radical hell filled with lone wolf killers who couldn't care an iota about Democracy or the Freedoms that come with it.

The only time they care about the Freedoms that they have under a Democracy is when they commit a crime and want to get away with it.

What the fanatics want is Sharia Law all over Europe, but the Left is so lost in it's fantasy that it can't see that the enemy is among them. Like a fox hiding in a hen-house these Islamic terrorists continue to strike knowing full well that they can do it anytime they want because of the Leftist and it's multicultural experimental policies!

JeffLeeFeb. 15, 2015 - 03:23PM JST "Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt called it a “political attack...." She doesn't have a clue, does she.

She does, this is the new code world that the Left is using whenever an Islamic terrorist attacks. Whenever they attack it isn't because of their religious beliefs it's because of their politics. This way they think they are protecting the whole.

This is just another stellar example of how the Left is so lost in it's Political correctness that it is actually helping to cover-up and minimize these crimes. If these leftist leader would start addressing the reason for these attack instead of covering them up then maybe these kinds of attacks would end.

If someone immigrates to your nation, refuses to respect your ways and demands that your nation change to suit their ways then they should never have been allowed in.

If they don't like the your ways maybe they should stay in their own homeland! This is what the Left doesn't want to see, hear or comprehend!

Another stellar example of the lefts insane multicultural experiment. The bodies keep piling on and the left continues to allows it to continue.

If anyone wants proof all you need to do is ask and I will gladly point you in the right direction.

I hope this new wave of terrorist murders (it is murder, nothing less) is dealt with swiftly. For all those who have bleated on about protection of individual privacy on the internet should realise that it is this monitoring of the internet that provides the leads to stop terrorism before it happens.

But, there is one very important subject that needs to be dealt with here. Surely the depiction of a religious God in the form of a dog is intended to insult and fan the flames of terrorism? Whilst we all support freedom of expression and stand up against terrorism, why haven't we protested about insulting images of other people's Gods? If it weren't for these insulting images then we would not have had to deal with another wave of terrorism and it is far too easy to defend these images as a right to freedom of expression.

If I were to charicture Martin Luther King as a dog then I would expect to get attacked by the black civil rights movement and If I were to charicture The Queen of England as a dog then I would not be able to walk the streets of Belfast in safety. So why are we happy to allow insults against a Muslim religion and pass it off as freedom of expression?

Sorry, Tigers,that isn't how free societies work. Terrorism existed long before any images of Mohammed were produced. They are not dependent on each other.

There are many reasons for satirical and insulting images to be created. Some are political, some are social, some are simply just for the sake of being rude. However, ALL are equally deserving of protection. The artists ALL deserve equal protection.

Another act of terrorism by religious extremists. Does anyone of sound mind and body want to live under Sharia law? I think not. Until the Islamic religion takes it upon themselves to police their own extremists who are armed to the teeth, these acts of violence with continue. When a society ignores portions of itself that are acting out in a violent nature, the whole society is to blame. If you want the world to accept and be comfortable with Islamic religion then its followers need to control their own kind but I think that the average person who follows the Islamic faiths are impotent and just plain scared to take on this job.

"but I think that the average person who follows the Islamic faiths are impotent and just plain scared to take on this job"

Perhaps. But I was cheered up a little by another story that appeared in my local Scottish newspaper at the same time as they published this story. It concerned a 77-year old shop owner named Ahmed Ali who was attacked by two thugs robbing his store. Although injured, he managed to prevent them taking the cash register. He was quoted,

"They tried to grab the till off me but I wouldn’t let them. I knew I had to fight them and I was strong enough to hold on. I told them to bugger off, and used many other bad words."

'Now I wonder where all the far left wingers are? Kind of interesting that they haven't said word one of this attack.'

Quick question for you. Which cuddle-the-terrorist leftie just days after 9/11 said "Islam is peace"?

I'm sure you know that was the notorious soy latte-loving, vegan, sandal-wearing George W Bush. You own peculiar brand of extremist Cold War Commie-hating rhetoric is quite sweet and nostalgic but doesn't really deal with the facts. The left/right divide isn't really the issue - those with real and meaningful power from both sides ( check out the Conservative UK PM Cameron's views on Islam ) are saying the same thing when things like this happen - this has nothing to do with religion.

JimizoFeb. 15, 2015 - 11:15PM JST The left/right divide isn't really the issue

And that is why your side will always get it wrong.

The divide is simple and, well dare I say.....Obvious, the Left wants multiculturalism and political correctness while the right wants immigrants to respect the customs of the nation they are immigrating to.

I may not fully support the right, but with them I know where their hearts are.

JimizoFeb. 15, 2015 - 11:15PM JST I'm sure you know that was the notorious soy latte-loving, vegan, sandal-wearing George W Bush.

If you believe that making a Bush comment will stir anything up within me you are sadly mistaken.

Bush and yes, Clinton were both conned into committing forces and resources into the middle east. And they were conned so well that they both took their eyes off the ball.

If you want to see the person who was actually behind the invasion of Iraq 2 look up Ahmed Chalabi. The man duped the US and both parties have egg enough to go around.

JimizoFeb. 15, 2015 - 11:15PM JST You own peculiar brand of extremist Cold War Commie-hating rhetoric is quite sweet and nostalgic but doesn't really deal with the facts.

And that is another slip and fall by your sides mindset. Just because the USSR collapsed doesn't mean that folks that support their ideals have just given up. Quite the contrary, it made them more determined. Wake up, the worlds doomsday cloak hasn't stopped......

Now please tell me a story, the world defeated the Nationalist Social Party (Nazis') in 1945, does that mean there are no more Nazis' in the world trying to promote their cause anymore?

Let us see if you answer that one.

@Joebigs Of course there are still Nazis in the world - a minority of extremist paranoid nutters spouting racism along with amongst other things paranoid railing against a Communist threat. I tend to try to avoid paranoia and deal with what less fevered people see as a real threat which isn't resurgent Nazism in Europe or Commie revolutions but an attempt to shut down free speech through intimidation or a disingenuous plea to hurt feelings or 'respect'.

"If I were to charicture Martin Luther King as a dog then I would expect to get attacked by the black civil rights movement and If I were to charicture The Queen of England as a dog then I would not be able to walk the streets of Belfast in safety."

Maybe YOU would not!

YOU! Just you.

I doubt it that blacks would try to kill ALL/ANY whites, or that NI would become a no-go zone for an entire creed or race.

Your analogy is as fallacious as they come.

Try harder!

@joeBigs

"And that is why your side..."

You're argument fails at that point. You've already decided there are "sides" in this discussion, and presumably your side is best.

The rest of your rant is nonsensical. "the Left wants multiculturalism and political correctness" What on earth does that even mean? I consider myself probably to the left in my political views. I despise political correctness, and I'm not even sure what "multiculturalism" means. It seems like some concept invented by xenophobic groups who are uncomfortable with people who eat different food from themselves. (They don't even make tea properly.)

To me, your views are just the other side of the coin from the Islamist nutjobs. Both equally right wing in the sense that that they are not open to other viewpoints. Both views support the establishment, even if their respective establishments are miles apart.

Peeping-Tom, maybe answer my main question. Why do we in the west (I am Christian and British) defend huge insults to the Islamic religion as our right to freedom of expression? Why haven't we raised the question of why these cartoonists and illustrators have caused such insults without us being outraged?

And I think you have little idea of the history of Northern Ireland. Even in 2015 and after the peace accord there are purely no-go zones for Catholics and vice versa for Protestants. Most people would not dare to imagine characterising the Queen as a dog without fear of huge insults to the Protestant community, so why do we in the west think it might be acceptable under freedom of expression to do something similar to muslims?

"your views are just the other side of the coin from the Islamist nutjobs. Both equally right wing in the sense that that they are not open to other viewpoints" -comments

Extremism is a form of hatred, usually hatred for something the individual cannot understand or has convinced themselves of.

The example at Copenhagen: the first shooting, happened at a panel discussion titled “Art, blasphemy and freedom of expression.” The suspected assailant, his motives and known threat potential, suggest the type who has found something to demonize and then acted based on his personal mania. In this case, killing innocent people to satisfy his hate filled world view.

This is very similar to the narrow minded rants about 'Leftists', or sometimes Liberals, as if these labels were some very specific species of person. As comments have noted above, these are another form of mania not very much unlike the murderer at Copenhagen. These individuals are locked inside their own worlds of hate and find daily sources to nourish their anger until violence becomes a predictable result.

In 2006: "Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen is shocked at the way in which some Muslims are misrepresenting Denmark in the Islamic world. “I am speechless that those people, whom we have given the right to live in Denmark and where they freely have chosen to stay, are now touring Arab countries and inciting antipathy towards Denmark and the Danish people,”

reference: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/658

Comparing these extremes of hatred for people for their beliefs, a not too subtle, guilt by association mania, the common failing is the need to feed anger. Whether in source material or sophomoric rants, these few unbalanced people cannot be ignored as they display the character that is common to all mania.

They simply come to believe one thing and only one thing and, at the most destructive, turn their narrow mindedness to thoughts and then acts of violence. This is the lesson of Copenhagen, Paris and some here also provide illustrations.

This is a hate crime, not "political" or "terrorism": the gunman deliberately targeted Jews.

It's not about cartoons either. What these people want is a prohibition on criticism of islam in any form. The cartoons are just a pretext. They want criticism of islam to be punishable by death, just as it is in various middle-eastern dumps. They cannot bear to have their beliefs challenged, possibly because deep down they know it is all nonsense.

Some background on the murderer:

"El-Hussein had also been wanted by police in November 2013 for stabbing a fellow passenger on a train, according to Ekstra-Bladet, a Danish tabloid.

This was corroborated by a statement issued by Danish police in 2013 describing an incident in which a man identified as Omar El-Hussein had stabbed a train passenger repeatedly with “a big knife”.

Jens Madsen, head of the Danish intelligence agency PET, said the gunman could have been inspired by Islamic State and the Charlie Hebdo attack. He was known to anti-terror police and may have travelled to Iraq and Syria, he said."

reference: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/copenhagen-gunman-was-known-to-danish-police/story-e6frg6so-1227220803823

Clearly a violent unstable type known to police where they successfully terminated the maniac as he returned to his apartment. Prevention?

Same article referenced reports:

"“PET is working on a theory that the perpetrator could have been inspired by the events in Paris. He could also have been inspired by material sent out by the Islamic State and others,” Madsen said.

Overnight Danish police arrested two people — a Pakistani man and an Arab man — at a Copenhagen internet cafe near Norreport station- in the aftermath of the terror attack."

Prevention? How can individuals who will, in secret and in overt ways, plan and execute slaughter for no reason except a personal derangement? Sadly, it looks as if this known mental case could have been stopped.