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The most offensive thing about Trump is his complete disregard for our political process. He knows he's unelectable, but due to his insatiable need for attention, he plays this role of being a candidate, making outrageous statements - all the while relishing the attention he's getting, feeling that he's somehow important. Trump, the consummate huckster, is nothing but a walking cartoon. And although he's fun to laugh at, his need for relevance is sad.

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Trump epitomizes the current GOP. On the surface he is less polished and calculating, but his views are pretty much in line with the fear and hate mongering of his peers. Fox's debate quandary is, in a way, a product of its own making. Fox helped to create this many-headed beast, each head attempting to outdo the other in spouting the extreme rhetoric with which Fox has poisoned public discourse in America. The only GOP candidate who isn't campaigning on a reactionary platform is Kasich, and he won't make the debate stage.

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Trump is my hero.

He will sink the GOP if he contests as a Republican. He will sink it if he contests from a 3rd party.

May the Trumps of the world multiply.

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Hillary is in such serious trouble that if he runs to the left as an Independent Trump could end up hurting the Democrats much more. It is still too early to say but both parties through negligence or corruption or a combination thereof have inadvertently invited him in their house that he is now burning down.

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All this talk about Trump being ridiculous itself is pretty ridiculous considering that CNN's latest poll puts Trump in the lead with 18%. So obviously American conservatives are warming to what Trump is saying. What this says about the electorate itself is disturbing enough, but Trump will permanently disable the Republicans by drawing such a large base of people further away from the centre

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Perry unloaded on Wednesday when he called Trump’s campaign a “barking carnival act” and "toxic mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense.”

Does he mean as opposed to his own barking carnival act of toxic gay-bashing, bible-thumping, gaffes and nonsense?

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Trump was in Iowa this weekend most directly criticizing conservative Gov. Scott Walker's fiscal record of borrowing and spending in Iowa. He is all over the place ideologically but perhaps closest to a liberal Republican drawing average Americans (not only conservatives) who like straight talk and are skeptical of lying, corrupt politicians. As to where he really stands they will just wait and see.

I’m not surprised at all by Trump razing the political landscape.

We needed this decades ago.

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Trump will be good for Democrats. Just my opinion.

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The real problem is that ALL of the Republican wannabes are nearly as frightening as Donald!

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Right, Farmboy. Rand Paul came out with a similar video showing how he would dispose of US tax laws: http://time.com/3966731/rand-paul-chainsaw-tax-code-video/

All pretty funny until one realizes the desperation behind it: These candidates are desperately seeking attention so as to be selected for the debates, but Trump is sucking up all of the oxygen.

As humorous as the videos are, the situation the GOP has gotten itself into is more so by magnitudes.

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I just want to make sure that the candidates get a full viewing. I want to hear Ted Cruz say that he doesn't support Supreme Court decisions that go against God. Bush will obviously be good for an out-of-touch moment, like when he said Americans need to work longer hours. I'm hoping the Rubio will rail against the Cuba deal and I'm literally praying the Huckabee turns his time into a sermon. Scott Walker doesn't have a lot of experience and he won't be able to dodge questions like he does with reporters.

I also want to hear them all say how horrible Obamacare is and I want them to make it very clear that they want to strip Medicaid from people who will be watching. Most of them will come out and say that Christians should have the right to refuse anything to people they don't like. In terms of social issues the US is more to the left than it was even just a few years ago and the GOP candidates will be in the minority on just about every issue. I want Americans to see that.

There was a Pew survey released a few days ago showing that GOP approval ratings are at their lowest since 1992:

Only 32% of respondents said they had a favorable opinion on the Republican Party in a new Pew Research Center poll published Thursday — the lowest number Pew has reported at any point since 1992, though there have been a couple of 33% ratings during that time. The party is viewed unfavorably by 60% of respondents, again the party’s worst score. The results mark a steep drop for the party since the start of the year. In January, Pew found that 41% of poll respondents had a favorable view of the GOP, while 53% were unfavorable.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/07/24/poll-republican-party-approval-ratings-lowest-in-decades/

Simply put, I don't want them to change a thing, and I want to see their party on full display for the US and the world to see.

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"Only 32% of respondents said they had a favorable opinion on (sic) the Republican Party"...

Hmmm, thats 2% per candidate, on average... somebody do the math, they apparently cant. Even if one of these candidates amasses 32% of the vote by cobbling together victories in red states, s/he likely won`t win - the electoral college will see to that. The East & West coasts a/w/a the states w/the largest urban populations vote blue.

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I just want to say MUCHAS GRACIAS Señor TRUMP!!! Thanks to Señor Trump, his insulting legal, illegal not yet born MEXICANS, well, you all get the picture, we all got quite offended, and if there were any LATINOS of Mexican ancestry with voting rights in the USA that were still thinking they should VOTE REPUBLICAN, well after all of these INSULTS, most of us now feel DONALD. J. TRUMP is way to racist and crazy to be anywhere near the US WHITE HOUSE, the millions and millions of US Mexican American and other Latinos voters will make sure to vote for anybody, even a DEAD SKUNK, rather than THE DONALD! You are FIRED Señor Trump!!!

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There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Trump understands this all too well. It will be interesting to see what Trump does after he finally does drop out of the presidential race. Perhaps a possible run for a senate seat somewhere like NY? If he does decide to run as an independent for president, it would probably not bode well for Republicans.

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Trump epitomizes the current GOP.

How so?

On the surface he is less polished and calculating, but his views are pretty much in line with the fear and hate mongering of his peers.

What hate?

Fox's debate quandary is, in a way, a product of its own making.

I see, so FOX shouldn't be allowed to hold ANY debates, but CNN and msnbc should?

Fox helped to create this many-headed beast, each head attempting to outdo the other in spouting the extreme rhetoric with which Fox has poisoned public discourse in America.

Really, like what?

The only GOP candidate who isn't campaigning on a reactionary platform is Kasich, and he won't make the debate stage.

Oh, so what makes Kasich stick out above all the others?

All pretty funny until one realizes the desperation behind it: These candidates are desperately seeking attention so as to be selected for the debates, but Trump is sucking up all of the oxygen.

I guess since Hillary is slipping in the polls, especially in popularity and NO one is paying attention to her.

As humorous as the videos are, the situation the GOP has gotten itself into is more so by magnitudes.

Really? According to the latest polls, Clinton is not doing good at all.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28521185/quinnipiac-poll-hillary-clinton-lagging-behind-gop-candidates

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/07/24/bad-polls-and-email-investigation-cause-rough-week-for-hillary-clinton

So one can only pray that The Trump love will fizzle out soon.

I just want to make sure that the candidates get a full viewing. I want to hear Ted Cruz say that he doesn't support Supreme Court decisions that go against God.

But at least he would respect the court and not undermine or circumvent them the way Obama has been doing.

Bush will obviously be good for an out-of-touch moment, like when he said Americans need to work longer hours.

Interesting how you libs once again and as usual love to spin and distort things to suit your narrative. For one thing his comments were taken out of context. Because many employers can't afford to cover all of their employees, some have had to resort to cutting back their staff hours to under 30 hours a week, if over, you have to provide healthcare insurance, so either they lay off staff and give their staff insurance or keep all their staff and only cut their hours. Which is another reason why we have so many Americans working 30 hours or less to avoid paying these high out of pocket costs of Obamacare. So when Bush said, he wants people to work more, that was in the context of 40 hours a week with the idea of strengthening the private sector, creating higher paying jobs, basically, getting back what the American people lost since Obama took office. Stagnant growth, wages down. This is what the people have been getting for the last 7 years.

I'm hoping the Rubio will rail against the Cuba deal and I'm literally praying the Huckabee turns his time into a sermon.

I hope the Castro brothers won't be around when Rubio gets to the podium.

Scott Walker doesn't have a lot of experience and he won't be able to dodge questions like he does with reporters.

Don't worry, He's not Hillary, he'll do just fine.

I also want to hear them all say how horrible Obamacare is and I want them to make it very clear that they want to strip Medicaid from people who will be watching.

No, just make more the premiums affordable and explain to the people what's going to happen when the Cadillac tax kicks in.

Most of them will come out and say that Christians should have the right to refuse anything to people they don't like.

Athiests do it, so why not Christians?

In terms of social issues the US is more to the left than it was even just a few years ago and the GOP candidates will be in the minority on just about every issue. I want Americans to see that.

That's not necessarily true, just because many Americans are adapting and opening up to certain issues, regardless of what all the progressive far left thinks, the country is still by large conservative generally speaking.

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Cruz is so deeply offended by the gay marriage decision that he's holding hearings to place term limits on justices and he also wants them to be subject them to popular elections to keep their positions. He also helped stoke the flames on Jade Helm. I want to make sure he is put in front of a national audience so he can say these things.

I'm sure each candidate will have their say on Obamacare, but I'm also sure one question that will be asked will be their alternative, and none of them will have an answer. I want to see all 10 participants say, on national TV, that they don't have one even after all these years.

It's important that younger people, who tend to be Democrats or left leaning independents, really see this stuff for themselves.

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"One guaranteed participant is Trump"

This will be an interesting debate!

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Cruz is so deeply offended by the gay marriage decision that he's holding hearings to place term limits on justices and he also wants them to be subject them to popular elections to keep their positions.

As an American, he has that right, there are many people that agree with him on this position.

I'm sure each candidate will have their say on Obamacare, but I'm also sure one question that will be asked will be their alternative, and none of them will have an answer. I want to see all 10 participants say, on national TV, that they don't have one even after all these years.

There are many ideas and ways to gut, trim and fix Obamacare so that it is more affordable and costs less for the patients.

It's important that younger people, who tend to be Democrats or left leaning independents, really see this stuff for themselves.

Left leaning independents, what in blazes are you talking about. Stay off the progressive sights.

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plasticmonkey: The only GOP candidate who isn't campaigning on a reactionary platform is Kasich, and he won't make the debate stage.

That's a pity, a real alternative in a field of mostly dingbats. From what I've seen so far he's a relatively moderate and competent Republican with real relevant experience and actually has worked with Democrats in the past. Yeah, I guess that all bt disqualifies him...

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In any case and wherever the Donald is going nothing compares to Hillary mishandling classified information on her private email system. This is going to be automatically disqualifying from being a candidate for president.

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Exactly, gcbel. In particular, he expanded Medicare in his state under the ACA rubric and then claimed to those who objected that they were insufficiently Christian. He's toast.

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That's a pity, a real alternative in a field of mostly dingbats.

Dingbat? So what does that make Bernie Sanders then?

From what I've seen so far he's a relatively moderate and competent Republican with real relevant experience and actually has worked with Democrats in the past.

Actually, they all did, but let's not allow the facts to muddle up the issue, shall we...

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Donald Trump is the inevitable result of 20 years of right wing Republican hate politics.

The Party has built a hate-messaging machine focused on personal attacks, usually tasteless in nature. They have slurred opposition to them as Nazis, Communist, and un-American.

Trump is the puss festering atop the open sore on the body politic of America.

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@SuperLibJUL. 27, 2015 - 01:37PM JST Trump will be good for Democrats. Just my opinion.

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But I agree with you. Except Trump, almost all candidates came to Nevada ro lure Latino and donations. They forgot onlt US citizens can vote.

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But I agree with you. Except Trump, almost all candidates came to Nevada ro lure Latino and donations. They forgot onlt US citizens can vote.

The last Nevada poll I saw Trump was leading. Why would he go asking for donations in any case ?

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More grist for the mill: Huckabee just said the Iran nuclear Deal will Lead Israelis to 'door of the oven." This man is not presidential material. So why does he say such filth?

The Party has built a hate-messaging machine focused on personal attacks, usually tasteless in nature.

Quite well put there.

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Donald Trump is the inevitable result of 20 years of right wing Republican hate politics.

If that IS really true, which Republican is spewing with hate, don't bomb throw, where is the HATE or more precisely, who is hateful?

The Party has built a hate-messaging machine focused on personal attacks, usually tasteless in nature. They have slurred opposition to them as Nazis, Communist, and un-American.

No different than the Democrats using the race and the women card at every chance they get. Isn't the president that is a Democrat, the very party that prided itself in being a White Nationalist and Racist party, so they say they have changed, but now they uses government entitlements to enslave Blacks and keep Hispanics down by increasing their dependence on big government. They don't wear sheets, but their social message literally amounts to the same thing.

Trump is the puss festering atop the open sore on the body politic of America.

Can't argue much on that point.

More grist for the mill: Huckabee just said the Iran nuclear Deal will Lead Israelis to 'door of the oven." This man is not presidential material. So why does he say such filth?

Filth?? I think you were referring to Obama, the man that made a disastrous deal one that is dangerous and counterproductive for the entire Mideast, not to mention the Israelis and the Sunnis, first of all, Obama was NEVER fit to be the president, but nonetheless, we have him now, but thank the heavens he'll be gone soon and hopefully we can get a person in the WH that is worthy and presidential material.

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Black,

They have slurred opposition to them as Nazis, Communist, and un-American.

Don't forget Pontius Pilate....

Tom Cotton should be a cell in Gitmo.

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L0z Why would he go asking for donations in any case ?

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Bevuse he is rich

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So why does he say such filth?

Let's talk about filth. How those zealous Mullahs run their Godforsaken state, while their people chant, "Death to Isreal, Death to America." Regarding Isreal, Huckabee's 'door of the oven' parable sounds about spot on to me.

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Regarding Isreal, Huckabee's 'door of the oven' parable sounds about spot on to me.

Huckabee is running for president. You seem to think that the President of the US should use the same, hysterical and irresponsible language of 'zealous Mullahs' of a 'Godforsaken state."

You think this because you are so steeped in right wing hate propaganda that you can't see Huckabee's hysterical and irresponsible language.

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You seem to think that the President of the US should use the same, hysterical and irresponsible language of 'zealous Mullahs' of a 'Godforsaken state."

Sure. Thy're fundie Republicans.

Live from the GOP Asylum.

'16 is going to be their craziest offering yet. The party must surely implode under the weight of its' own gargantuan stupidity. Americans deserve better from their two-party system.

Go Trump!

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Dingbat?

Yes, dingbats... you know, nitwits, kooks... look it up.

So what does that make Bernie Sanders then?

Ooooh, good comeback, Bass. Really, very clever.

Actually, they all did, but let's not allow the facts to muddle up the issue, shall we...

Did they now...

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Madverts

"Live from the GOP Asylum"

To be fair, 1/3 of Republicans favor the Iran deal. 54% oppose.

http://aufc.3cdn.net/e6dca770dc6d71f7d2_tgm6bxklu.pdf

A sane party would see the opposite numbers. But the Republican party is broken.

Americans, BTW, support the deal. So, I hope Huckabee et. al continue their Holocaust comparisons. 'Cause that just makes it better for Democrats and better for America come next November.

"Go Trump!"

For an interesting (and even fair to Orange Daffy) read on how bad Trump is for the Republicans, check this out:

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/07/22-donald-trump-candidate-serious-hudak

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"A candidate needs to place in the top 10 in an average of national polls to meet the criteria Fox News Channel has set to take the stage Aug. 6 in Cleveland." - "a “barking carnival act” and “toxic mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense.” - article

Don't even think the Propaganda Channel, FoxNews, doesn't know how to promote their brand of fascism. Looks like Perry already wrote the promo copy: LIVE on Fox! A Barking Carnival Act With A Toxic Mix Of Demagoguery, Mean-Spiritedness And Nonsense, Be there August 6, on Fox!

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Huckabee is running for president.

LoL, as if he's gona win? C'mon you know-darn well- the republicans are in shambles. So let Huckabee say what he wants. . . This tactic seems to be working well with Trumph.

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'16 is going to be their craziest offering yet. The party must surely implode under the weight of its' own gargantuan stupidity. Americans deserve better from their two-party system

Sifting through the rhetoric, the good thing about these candidates is, there is enough good ones which hasn't been the case in over 28 years. How many do the Dems have in terms of quality....? Maybe the closest thing would be Jim Webb. Now if Trump will kindly get out of the way, so that we can do business.....

Yes, dingbats... you know, nitwits, kooks... look it up.

I did and it described the Democratic Party to a tee! Thanks for the heads up!

To be fair, 1/3 of Republicans favor the Iran deal. 54% oppose.

You're talking about the April article in Politico? Nice try. Normally, I stay away from über progressive echo chamber lib sites, but they did get one thing right.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/23/1405031/-Senate-Republicans-already-know-they-won-t-be-supporting-any-Iran-deal

Virtually NO Republican supports this deal!

A sane party would see the opposite numbers. But the Republican party is broken.

That's true and Hillary herself is a broken piece, her lies are costing her dearly now.

Americans, BTW, support the deal.

Top Republicans vowed Wednesday to do their utmost to scrap President Barack Obama's nuclear deal with Iran as the biggest pro-Israel lobby prepared for an all-out campaign to pressure wary lawmakers into rejecting the agreement.

As Congress opened a 60-day review of the deal, Republican U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner told reporters: "Because a bad deal threatens the security of the American people, we're going to do everything possible to stop it."

Schumer told reporters as he left the hearing that he was still deciding. "It's a serious issue and I'm studying it carefully, giving it what it deserves," he said.

Several Republicans said the Cabinet secretaries had not eased their concerns about several issues, particularly the ability to "snap back" sanctions if Iran violates the deal and the system for inspecting Iranian nuclear facilities.

Senator Ted Cruz, a 2016 Republican presidential candidate, said the agreement would provide Iran with billions of dollars that would be used to murder Americans and their allies

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/23/us-iran-nuclear-congress-idUSKCN0PW2HS20150723

A lot of Americans sadly can't find Greenland on the map, can't read, don't know who the Vice President is, don't do enough political research and watches a liberal 98% slanted virtually one-sided viewpoint, that's the reason they support the deal. Come on dude....

Sadly what's not a joke is watching in real time Hillary's poll numbers sliding down. Talk about Schadenfreude!

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The GOP's best bet will be Benghazi. They don't have much in the way of policy success and their approval ratings are pretty bad.

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The GOP's best bet will be Benghazi. They don't have much in the way of policy success and their approval ratings are pretty bad.

Funny!! I wouldn't talk. Hillary is sinking faster than the Titanic and sinking with independents, starting to sink with Democratic voters, as much as Benghazi should remain opened, she is doing a fine job at destroying herself and her ratings.

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LoL, hillary clinton is losing to GOP candidates in 3 key swing states. Is there hope for her? Kinda' reminds of how strong a Clinton-backed "Al Gore" started off strong . . . But lost in that whole re-count episode. Gotta love american politics.

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Hillary is sinking faster than the Titanic

Going down like a lead zeppelin would have been better since the titanic didn't sink that fast. But I getcha.

I sure hope trump wins it all, he couldn't be any worse than team DemRep. Then, maybe, in 2020, my fellow Americans will stop following the corporate/banker whores as trump will restore the pride we used to have for our country.

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SuperLib: The GOP's best bet will be Benghazi. They don't have much in the way of policy success and their approval ratings are pretty bad.

bass: Funny!! I wouldn't talk.

Well, it's a thread about the GOP candidates, so I might mention them.

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@stormcrowJUL. 27, 2015 - 07:57PM JST There's no such thing as bad publicity

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DEM Hillary with Benghadi and e-mail Who are other candidates?

GOP Trump Trump Trump Who are GOP candidates?.

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