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No gun problem here. Just another Friday in 'Merikuh.

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When will America wake up to this tyranny?

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When SenseNotSoCommon? Never.

Americans firmly believe their right to own guns keep them safe from the tyranny of government, yet year after year, decade after decade they are losing their rights and the standard of living is slowly but surely declining for the majority.

So what do they do? Shoot each other instead of confronting and forcing change in the government. You can't fix something like that.

Teenagers and young adults are acutely aware of this problem and see no future for themselves. Then there is the mental health problem, one that Japan seems to have a similar issue with, in that no one cares for those with these mental problems that cause a lot of this senseless violence. In the 1980s and 1990s, the US shut down literally thousands of public service mental health clinics across the country.

At this point, it is now out of control and will have to come to its inevitable and very bad end.

Now I'm depressed. sigh

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His parents gave him a rifle for his 15th birthday.

What were they planning for his 18th, a rocket launcher? I hope there is a lawsuit here, that is the only way American parents will learn to keep weapons away from children.

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There may not be anything wrong with presenting a 15-year-old with a rifle, as long as there was no way he could get to it without parental supervision. In this case, they were making a life-and-death decision, as their son would take his own life with it, as well as (at current writing) one other life.

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The problem is bigger than guns, eliminating them won't solve anything in the bigger picture of things.

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This case has nothing whatsoever to do with hunting. I don't condone the lifestyle one bit personally but it was a different gun and those photos of Fryberg holding a 14-point buck for the camera are simply what teenagers in rural America do—they hunt.

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eliminating them won't solve anything in the bigger picture of things

Oh, I think the parents of the dead children would beg to differ.

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The problem is bigger than guns, eliminating them won't solve anything in the bigger picture of things.

On a level of pure reason and common sense, if guns were eliminated from the equation, it would decrease the level of kills per minute. A person coming to school with a knife or bat would find themselves more easily overpowered, with far fewer casualties. Those injured would be more likely to survive and make a full recovery.

Only to people without any common sense -- the people who assert that "Who's counting?" -- this logic would fail to register. And that's a big problem in the bigger picture of things: People without any common sense whatsoever have controlled the decision-making on guns for far too long.

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On a level of pure reason and common sense, if guns were eliminated from the equation, it would decrease the level of kills per minute. A person coming to school with a knife or bat would find themselves more easily overpowered, with far fewer casualties. Those injured would be more likely to survive and make a full recovery.

But casualties None the less, which doesn't justify or make things simpler. A person with a box cutter do a heck of a to of damage in a matter of seconds if given the chance, which can be very easy if you are quick.

Only to people without any common sense -- the people who assert that "Who's counting?" -- this logic would fail to register.

Or people that want to hide from the fact that you can use ANYTHING to murder someone and even if one person is killed is way too much, whether it's by a gun or other lethal weapons or means.

And that's a big problem in the bigger picture of things: People without any common sense whatsoever have controlled the decision-making on guns for far too long.

I believe it's more like idiotic people that are trying to take away the rights of law-abiding citizens and because they cannot take away our guns just bothers these people to no end and people that mind their own business and want and should live the way they so choose.

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Four dead in this tragic event.

On election night Tuesday, the state passed a gun control initiative that had been schedule to be placed on the ballot long before this incident.

So, along with the Democrats, the National Rifle Association suffered a rebuke. Last night, the voters of Washington state broke the rule [that the gun lobby always wins]. They adopted by a nearly 60 percent margin Initiative 594, a measure extending background checks to all weapons sales and transfers, with exceptions only for transfers between family members and temporary loans for sporting or self-defense purposes.

From The Atlantic -- link below (article by David Frum):

"The passage of 594 takes on extra meaning because Washington state was the place where the gun lobby scored the electoral victory that supposedly proved its invincibility, the defeat of House Speaker Thomas Foley in his own district in 1994. Foley, a longtime supporter of gun rights, had helped pass two gun restrictions in 1993 and 1994: the Brady Bill restricting some handgun sales and the temporary assault-weapons ban, the latter inspired by a gun massacre at Spokane’s Air Force base that killed four and wounded 23. Then-NRA President Charlton Heston came to Foley’s district to campaign against him. Foley’s defeat seemed to prove forever the invincibility of the pro-gun cause.

"Yet even as politicians learned always to yield to the NRA, polls continued to show broad public support for many gun-safety measures, especially including background checks to deny firearms to felons, the mentally ill, and domestic abusers. Initiative 594 discovered a way to transform that support into a political fact. It bypassed the state legislature to lay a gun-control measure directly before the voting public. Yesterday’s vote confirmed: The polls were right. If you ask them, the voters will approve gun restrictions.

"Initiative 594 was decisively leading in the polls even before the October 4 shooting at Washington’s Marysville-Pilchuck High School in which four students lost their lives, including the 15-year-old shooter. So strong was support for the initiative—nearly 2 to 1 through most of the fall—that the NRA effectively conceded the contest..."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/the-gun-control-movement-is-learning-how-to-win/382407/

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