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Suffer Hiker
If I lived in the USA, I'd have a gun to protect myself from bad guys.
Mr Kipling
Blacks make up about 13% of the US population but 68% of murder victims, mostly shootings. And no its not the police doing the killing, its generally young black men shooting other young black men.
Identifying the problem is the first step to the solution.... two words....Drugs ....Gangs.
SuperLib
For some context (before the partisan bickering begins) crime overall is still dropping with a few insignificant exceptions. This is about the murder rate, which is increasing regardless of city size or party running it.
And no, no one knows why. If someone tells you it's because of defunding the police (the right) or the number of guns on the streets (the left) there is no data supporting that. It's just someone making their own link to make a political point.
No one knows why, and with crime it's always been that way.
Express sister
If you have a gun, you are the bad guy.
gaicuckojin
Problem: police are too oppressive
Solution: defund and remove police immunities
reality: emboldened criminals going a criminal rampage due to an ineffective security that refuses to get involve due to negative public reaction regardless of outcome.
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problem: guns !!!!!
solution: remove all guns
reality: removing a citizens right to defend themselves combined with an infective security force emboldens and incentivises criminals on their right to loot and pillage.
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Jsapc
"Defun the police" doesn't mean what you think it means.
The vast majority of the world lives without guns just fine.
ulysses
However you might try to spin it, there’s is gun violence because there are a lot of guns on the streets.
Reduce access to guns and the violence will go down.
Strangerland
Americans have decided this is an acceptable number of people to die per day, so that they can carry guns to protect themselves.
When looking at this, and at how poorly the US handled the pandemic, you can clearly see Americans really don't care much about other Americans. If it doesn't affect them personally, then they don't care.
Jsapc
In this context "no guns" means of course that they're not rampant on the streets and readily available to the general population. It's pretty much understood.
In England, even policemen don't carry firearms.
ArtistAtLarge
America is one big death cult.
Strangerland
Nowhere, but Japan is about as close as it gets.
Strangerland
The two are a unit package. You can't have the guns without the people dying from them, and you won't have the people dying from them if without the guns. They go together.
So yes, Americans have accepted this number of deaths per day is acceptable. They just don't like to have it pointed out, because it doesn't allow them to continue the illusion that there is no cost of life for the right for them to arm themselves.
garymalmgren
The lead photograph is pretty devastating.
I have three daughters.
gary
Jsapc
I didn't even say "no guns", I said "The vast majority of the world lives without guns just fine.", which is very exactly true. If you're going to split hairs, at least don't pu words in my mouth.
bass4funk
The number of violent crimes in the United Stateshas dramatically fallen over the last two decades, although the number of reported violent crimes has risen slightly in the past few years. A similar story is told by looking at the violent crime rate per 100,000 residents, which factors in the role population growth plays in increasing the overall number of crimes. It is important to note that violent crime figures may not always be precise as there is a worryingly high rate of violent crimes not reported to police. This is a particularly the case for rape and sexual assault, where only around one quarter of offences are reported. It is therefore almost certain that the actual rate of violent crime is considerably higher than officially figures suggest.
https://www.statista.com/topics/1750/violent-crime-in-the-us/#topicHeader__wrapper
SuperLib
I'm very anti-gun and agree. But any sudden year over year changes aren't due to availability.
I see gun owners as, "I support selling guns to counter people buying guns."
Stewie
Strange breed those americans. They think the way to stop gun violence is to ..get more guns. Was it Einstein that said "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
bass4funk
I see it differently, I see guns to protect myself my family, my property, to hunt and I enjoy as a hobby collecting them.
Jsapc
But you live in Japan.
Fighto!
Extremely dangerous country. You'd be mad to visit there, unless you were forced to for business. I just feel sorry who the innocent people, who are not gun crazies, who have to live there. Every day is super dangerous.
bass4funk
Never will just like other countries use knives often to kill people and the selling of knives won’t be prohibited either even though the vast majority of people don’t use them for killing or hurting people.
WHEN I’m in Japan.
Fighto!
Are you seriously comparing knives to guns? Wake up to yourself, your country is a disgrace.
bass4funk
It doesn’t matter. Death is death. Tell it to the people that were killed by them. I understand (to a very small point) what you want to imply, but whether it’s one person regardless of how they died is too much. I don’t discriminate when it comes to violent deaths, they’re all bad because the end result is, the person is deceased.
Commodore Perry
It seems the vast number of shootings are not by the police,
zichiToday 09:13 am JST
Maybe in your country but not in the US. Target shooting, detaining criminals, deterring criminals.
Many non-lethal uses.
Regardless, guns vastly outnumber automobiles, but more deaths are caused by automobiles. Not worried about guns--more worried about violent criminals, drunk drivers, inept surgeons . . .
Jsapc
So how do you protect yourrself, your family and your precious property while in Japan?
Jsapc
Oh yeah, that's working like a charm, isn't it? Those guns sure are deterring criminals.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Yeah, because people need cars to live. Society would not function without cars. Hundreds of millions of Americans use cars everyday. Not the same with guns.
Commodore Perry
JsapcToday 09:23 am JST
Unlike the article, in Japan there are fewer violent criminals, so less need to use weapons that can be lethal, including knives, lead pipes and other means of killing.
JsapcToday 09:27 am JST
Obviously since the article is not referring 316 people shot by police each day, so when police dry their weapons, there you go. Easy.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.comToday 09:28 am JST
How many people in Japan live without cars?
Blacklabel
Japan is not a place where criminals already have guns.
Very few violent criminals so I feel fine without my guns, have sufficient alternatives because criminals are unarmed.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
We're not talking about Japan. We're talking about the United States, where hundreds of millions of people need cars to work each and everyday.
Jsapc
And how many times have you used your gun to stop a violent crime in the US?
I have no idea what any of this means.
Commodore Perry
P. SmithToday 09:25 am JST
Who is trying to make any equivalency?
I admitted?? And what are the many uses of a knife that don't involve the blade?
The inevitable false equivalency between types of deaths.
bass4funkToday 09:39 am JST
Exactly. I don't get it when people try and justify death by means other than guns as being noble or something.
Commodore Perry
JsapcToday 09:44 am JST
Once, two months ago.
I know.
I don't get what the far-left extremists' argument is. Ban all guns because people are killed by guns when used by violent criminals?
Ban all scalpels because people are killed by scalpels in the hands of malpracticing doctors.
Ban all cars because people are killed by cars when used by bad drivers.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
lol not to anyone fluent in the English language it doesn't. Guns make it easier to kill people, so you have more violence in the US. If one death was really "too many," Americans would do something about it. But Americans don't care, so they do nothing.
bass4funk
Get real. Lol.
I can see my elderly relatives accurately using a bow and arrow, come on now.
Then don’t bring it up.
Any other weapon can be lethal, take your pick
Then blame the politicians running the cities for not enforcing the laws on the books as well as the prosecutors that refuse to process, incarcerate and give lengthy prison sentences to gun offenders, do that and you will see the gun spikes go down. But since the Dems wanted to defund the police, the only thing now you can do is arm yourself. Liberals can’t have it both ways! What were they thinking would happen when they started to defund the police? Anyone with a functional brain could see where this was going. And the gun haters can hate all they want. The Democrats can talk all day, but they’re not going to do anything and they know it because many of their own constituents are gun owners.
No, we do care. If the Democrats would listen to law abiding gun owners they would know, but they won’t.
Blacklabel
None of these 5 stories have a shooter that leftists can criticize fir race or politics.
so blame the gun and gun owners as a deflection.
Blacklabel
Americans, we do care. We want the guns out of the hands of criminals.
which Dems won’t do. Because they don’t want to be seen as cracking down on certain races in inner cities where they get those sweet, sweet election changing votes.
plus it’s scary to Dems to confront criminals and take their guns. So instead they focus on legal gun owners who don’t vote for them.
all about race and votes as to why Dems do nothing.
Droll Quarry
The States are long past being able to solve the gun problem. There is too much inner city poverty and drug availability. Mass shootings make the headlines, but these are just a very small fraction of the people killed in running totals daily. The mass shootings are done by "crazies" who pop up in unpredictable places and would probably find a way to kill a lot of people without a gun. Contrary to some posters concept of the United States, it is not a totally lawless land, crime and shootings are mainly a plague of the larger cities and just certain sections of them. Currently there are not enough prisons to hold the vast number of gangs and criminals if one did attempt to clean things up. One could pass laws to take away the guns, but the gangs and criminals would keep theirs, and the vast number of existing guns would go underground. How do you fix poverty, ignorance and culture?.. good luck with that!
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
lol No you don't. No meaningful legislation has been passed. Republicans don't want to pass any sort of gun control.
lololol Won't do what? What is your solution here, that you think Democrats are scared to do?
bass4funk
Neither were other countries.
Ditto
I’m saying you can’t make a weak argument that without guns, there will be no killing, there will be, look at history before guns.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
lol I see this line a lot and it sounds nice; Let's target the criminals and let alone law-abiding gun owners. The only problem is, how do you tell the difference?
1) A pike in gun crime doesn't mean gun control doesn't work.
2) There could be other reasons, unrelated to gun control that caused the spike in gun crimes.
3)Gun deaths per capita in NZ are still half what they are in the US.
oldman_13
America and its sick gun culture.
bass4funk
Death is death and we can talk about what liberals want, but the fact of the matter is, guns are not going anywhere.
Oh, history would prove you wrong on that one.
Jsapc
64% of americans are for stricter gun laws. Are you saying that 64% of americans are liberals?
voiceofokinawa
Will killings by gun be reduced if gun control were tightened further or if guns were prohibited all across the board? But, even if there were no guns at hand at the time of killing, the murderer could grab whatever he could use to kill: his own fist, a kitchen knife or a baseball bat. So, guns are not the real culprits to blame.
It is people's sick mindset, not guns, that accounts for the high rate of gun-involved homicides in the U.S., I think.
PTownsend
Einstein NEVER said that, it's an Internet meme. https://www.history.com/news/here-are-6-things-albert-einstein-never-said
bass4funk
No, but since the majority of gun violence occurs in the largest cities like Baltimore, Chicago, NYC, Detroit, DC, Los Angeles these city mayors and governors should do more to enforce the gun laws that are on the books prosecutors should ask for stiffer prison sentences for repeat offenders.
PTownsend
@bass Oh, history would prove you wrong on that one.
That sounds like the alt right hero Alex Jones saying America was built on guns and whiskey. What a heritage.
Blacklabel
yes they want guns out of the hands of criminals who use them to kill innocent people, often in their own neighborhoods. You present this as if this unsourced, likely liberal leaning poll result, means that 64% of Americans want guns take from legal owners. they dont, they want them taken from criminals.
Jsapc
Gun Deaths per Capita by State
The following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000):
Alaska - 24.4
Mississippi - 24.2
Wyoming - 22.3
New Mexico 22.3
Alabama - 22.2
Louisiana - 22.1
Missouri - 20.6
South Carolina - 19.9
Arkansas - 19.3
Montana - 19.3
Why aren't these governors doing anything?
missbatten
People who aren't Americans care that so many, many Americans die, shattered into guts and gore, every hour of every day.
But we don't decide American policy.
The rest of us don't care about your little class and party games, you all look like Americans to us. We just care about your people, and we wish you did too.
William Bjornson
If you think ANY politician in America, ANY news outlet in America, ANY one at all in America is advertising the numbers we see in this article, you don't understand a semi-police state. The local news may carry one shooting but many, many are just not publicized. A shooting could happen a block away and you won't know about it. Offshore propagandists who see advantage in destroying America to gain power here are feeding the fear and paranoia and their financial arm is destroying the economy while making themselves quite rich. The American worker is at the level of just barely paying the bills and sometimes not which, itself, is generating rage and hopelessness and feeding the overt hostility that has always been an American cultural hallmark. Empires of psychopaths come and empires of psychopaths go, most often destroyed simply by the corruption of insane greed and the political weakness of extortion, bribery, blackmail, and outright murder. Watching America self-disassemble, pray that we IMPLODE and NOT explode or climate change will be the least of Mankind's worries...
snowymountainhell
Perhaps you mean well @Jaspc 11:15pm in regards to the topic of senseless shootings but please, put Your stats in perspective of gun deaths ‘by category’, ie:
That being said, we can all agree these shootings are senseless.
FizzBit
Very nice. Most of the “American worker” would never be participate in a Free for all looting. Only losers.
Sven Asai
Ask yourself , when reading all the names, why most of the cases are strongly biased to happen within Latin and black or better let’s say black Muslim communities. Spoiler alert, you won’t like your own answers. lol
bass4funk
Here we go again. Nice try….
Good point, but not close to the busiest populated white collar urban cities where the majority of people and the majority of finance, trade and commerce as well as big tech situated. Not to mention these are the cities where police presence are at the upmost needed and the Dems decided to defund them. This is why people are leaving those richest blue states.
Blacklabel
there was an obvious, misleading reason for picking "per capita" instead of total.
and for stating gun "deaths" instead of "murders".
Blacklabel
its the liberal media narrative. minority as a victim.
with silence on who the perpetrator of the crime was, nearly always a member of the same community.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Yeah. Because it would be stupid to talk in totals. Without taking differences into account, it would be difficult to know whether a number is high or low. Good grief.
Jimizo
Very informative. Always good to see facts over partisanship.
Richest and most productive. Seventy percent of the wealth of the US is generated in in the blue states. I hope you are thankful they keep the US up there as the world’s largest economy. They are certainly carrying passengers.
bass4funk
No problem. Let’s hope Newsom, Loghtfoot and Cuomo reverse their destructive policies and war against the police. It would help the surging gun crimes
And a growing number of those people are thankful and feel they need to be safer and deciding to move out of these States and give them to the people that can hire their own private security of men and women with guns.
Jimizo
Okay.
What’s the problem with the states mentioned above with the highest gun deaths per capita?
What would you advise them to do? Something is clearly wrong.
sdf_crew_member
If one would do estimates of death based on these photos it shows that blacks and latinos kill themselves.
Laguna
When my kids were tots, we visited my father's house, and I happened to look into a closet only to find a pistol and a box of ammunition next to it. I pointed out to my dad that leaving such stuff around with curious kids about was unwise, and he apologized - he'd inherited it from his recently deceased FIL and stuck it in the closet. Just having a gun around is a very bad idea - whether shooting in heat of passion or accidental, it's a tragedy awaiting. Get a slingshot if you're that desperate.
bass4funk
Nothing wrong and they weren’t disputed, however, we are talking about the cities or driving engines in the US that make the money with the best urban lifestyle and highest standard of living being torn apart by gun violence in States and cities with some of the strickest gun laws and none of these leaders are enforcing them. Now you have more white flight and into States where the leadership overall do take policing and gun crimes and prosecuting them more seriously. If they can’t or won’t protect or enforce the laws on the books, step down.
Jimizo
Stopped reading there. Not serious. Just partisanship. Pointless continuing any discussion.
bass4funk
No, it’s just liberals want a one-sided gun hating discussion and ignore any opposing viewpoints on the issue.
Blacklabel
It’s disingenuous to suggest that Alaska is the #1 location for concern related to murders where a gun was used.
liberals just found a stat to manipulate to mislead/defect from the actual issue.
which is Dem unwillingness to confront racial groups in the inner cities that are killing each other daily. Because those same people vote for them.
Express sister
No.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 12:35 pm JST
You make them so easy to ignore.
Strangerland
Damn liberals being all disingenuous by looking at the data instead of the race. It's disgusting.
Blacklabel
“Per capita”, “gun death” used for manipulation of data you mean.
Blacklabel
Until minorities stop voting for Democrats nothing will ever change.
liberals are only now concerned about gun violence because a bunch of white people at a baseball game heard a shooting outside.
.Followed by a bunch of other white CNN people ar a fancy restaurant in DC seeing another shooting.
now it’s (temporarily) a problem to liberal media. But that will pass soon enough because it makes POTATUS look bad.
Strangerland
You just want to ignore the murder zone that is Alaska because its one of your team.
But stick with your "alternative facts", and keep telling us to focus on race.
Strangerland
I think your team is on the right path telling minorities that they don't know how to vote in their own best interest, and should listen to the old white men in the Republican party who know better. I do believe that is a winning strategy, stick with it.
Blacklabel
Worked last time. Got more percentage Black and Hispanic votes of any Republican in recent history.
you do know Joe Biden is an old white man too, don’t you?!
Commodore Perry
P. SmithToday 10:43 am JST
Fewer firearms doesn't mean fewer deaths--fewer criminals shooting people with whatever number of firearms means fewer deaths.
A knive is non-lethal at its core? I guess, if you don't stab someone. A gun is non-lethal at its core--if you don't shoot someone.
Who is comparing cars and knives with firearms but you? That's the libs' biggest problem--they don't want to face the actual issue and instead try and direct the narrative to the limited scope they want to cover.
Death by firearm, death by knife, death by automobile equal one thing and the same--death.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lmao it isn't disingenuous to put things in perspective.
If there are only 50 homicides in Chicago, most people would say that is quite good, considering Chicago's population size.
If The same 50 people are murdered in a town of 1,000. That is a much worse, much higher crime rate, isn't it? Not accounting for population differences would completely skew results.
For the record, you wikipedia actually has a breakdown of gun homicides per capita, per state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state
As one can see, with the exception of Washington DC all of the states in the top 10 are red states, with lax gun control.
Blacklabel
no, you missed the explanation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
No. You didn't scroll down far enough. Please keep scrolling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state
The gun murders in 2010 from FBI Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program was 8,775.[8] The total number of murders from all weapons was 12,996.[8] These figures includes murders and willful manslaughters, but excludes "deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident" and justifiable homicides.[9] The U.S. reports a 70% conviction rate for murder prosecutions.[10]
Blacklabel
2010? Yeah ok thanks “Wikipedia from a decade ago is a legitimate source” guy.
Even so your link still shows California with 1297 gun murders and Alaska with only 19. And a higher “per capita”.