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Hamas praised the synagogue attack,

That's no surprise, neither will be the total lack of condemnation from the Muslim world.

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Israel has built a high wall along its borders to shut out Arab troublemakers. It's time to move them all to that side, and then lock the gates.

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No. Not all Muslims are rooting for this. This is a purely political fight, which some very nasty little men are using religion for as an excuse. This happens the world over.

I'm no Muslim (I have another faith and don't recognise the Muslim faith as true, just my own), BUT that belief of mine is irrelevant; good people are dying on both sides and I suspect that if Allah is real (and I'm wrong), then they wouldn't condone this at all, which is why I also firmly believe that most of the Muslim world don't support this, either.

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'This is a purely political fight'

Why then are these people prepared to kill each over 'holy sites'? It is partly political and the reason why no peace can be found in this part of the world is very much to do with religion. If there was a sudden outbreak of secularism or atheism in this area, it would make the prospects for peace infinitely higher.

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Can the Book of Revelation finally be coming true? Certainly feels like the Middle East is building to some sort of awful end.

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Ulysses

That's no surprise, neither will be the total lack of condemnation from the Muslim world.

I am a Muslim and I condemn these attacks (even before I read your silly comment). So you're wrong already.

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'Can the Book of Revelation finally be coming true? Certainly feels like the Middle East is building to some sort of awful end.'

Nah, this is handbags at ten paces by the standards of this part of the world. Even the business in Syria doesn't compare to past bloodbaths in these holy lands. Even if the Muslims succeeded in evicting the Jews from Israel they'd still be demonizing and killing each other.

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I am a Muslim and I condemn these attacks (even before I read your silly comment). So you're wrong already.

Can you please stop not feeding into Muslim stereotypes? What will the bigots do if you keep proving them wrong?

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This is terrible. i am in favor of isolationism. obviously Jews and Arabs cannot live together. separate them. As you would violent criminals in society.

sometimes boundaries cannot be overcome.

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In a statement, Hamas praised the synagogue attack, saying it was a “response to continued Israeli crimes, the killing, desecrating al-Aqsa (mosque),” a reference to a recent incident at the holy site.

A decades-old policy of not allowing Jews to pray at the site of the al-Aqsa mosque has come under strains only recently. There is not a week that goes by that I don't hear from some ultra-religious person asserting -- often in hushed tones -- that the mosque will no longer be there in the foreseeable future. Muslims, unless they are totally tuned out, are aware of these forces, and their intentions.

This heinous attack was very much a suicide mission. If a Muslim, who sees pressures being put on the decades-long policy, senses that the mosque is under threat, the reaction of some will be to resort to violence to defend it. This is one of their holiest sites, and they've worshiped there unbroken for many centuries. The leaders of Israel have to take very clear and harsh measures to ensure the policy of "Muslims-only" at the site of the mosque remains unbroken and uncompromised. In essence: Jews have no right whatsoever to pray there.

The fact that a certain segment among the Jews will never accept that, the pressures will continue to build, leading to horrendous events like this one. (I wonder how long it will be before a reprisal attack is launched.)

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" Hamas praised the synagogue attack, "

Yep, the same Hamas that is now receiving millions of aid from Western governments, and the same Hamas that would take over the West Bank too if Israeli forces withdrew.

It is simply baffling to see Western media villifying ISIS on one hand and painting Hamas with rose-tinted glasses at the same time... as if there was a difference between the two.

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'This is terrible. i am in favor of isolationism. obviously Jews and Arabs cannot live together, separate them'

I agree. It is terrible but I'm not sure who should separate them. I'm sure whoever does the separating will be greeted as heroes when they allocate the 'holy sites'. It could be interesting if those people are the same who tell us this has nothing to do with religion.

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4 killed in Jerusalem synagogue attack

The response will be even more harsh than the attack. Hamas and the PLO will be to blame for what will come after this. And Muslim leaders and their Far Left allies shall condemn Israel for retaliating against those terrorist attacks. But, that is the way it has always been. The Far Left has always supported the PLO and hated Israel.

Wouldn't be grand if for once Muslim religious leaders and their Far Left allies would stand up and condemn these attacks after they happened rather than after people got upset with them? Why is it that both groups stay silent when terrorist attack the innocent? It can only mean that they support the attacks.

To me it's a form of fanaticism and you can't reason with fanatics.

What I found truly insulting was how in one breath Palestinian Authority leader Abbas condemned the attacks and in the other he tried to justify them. But, I think Hamas' Sami Abu Zuhri described the sentiment of most Muslims in the region.

"a quality development in fighting the occupation. We highly value the heroism of its operatives." Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri

http://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-condemns-attack-amid-widespread-palestinian-justification/

Muslim leaders will silently sit by waiting until the Western world gets upset at their silence. Then and only then will they organize small groups of their followers to march for peace in capitals throughout Europe. But, after Western Leftist politicians smile, wink and promise not to stop the tax dollars from flowing into their organizations they will be silent once more.

The Muslim world may feel that these attacks were wrong, but in the same breath they justify the attacks and blame the victims for what happened.

The only way for this to all change will be when the West decides to threaten to cut off all funds unless all parties truly seek peace. This means Muslim nations finally accepting that Israel has the right to exist and Israel allowing the Muslims in the region to have their own nation.

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Israeli authorities, as little as one week ago, gave approval of new housing in territories that they have stolen from Palestinians. Nothing about THAT minor detail in the above propaganda! Let's quit the pity party for the Jewish side of this argument. God is no more on the Jew side of killing than is Mohammed on the side of ISIS. The problem isn't nearly as complex as media or the commentators here would have the ignorant believe. This has nothing to do with Revelation...

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Paul-Lamay Convoy:

" This is a purely political fight, which some very nasty little men are using religion for as an excuse. This happens the world over. "

You are wrong. Islam is not simply a religion, it is also a political ideology. And the state of Israel was founded on a religious premise (as a place where Jews could live safely). It is purely wishful Western thinking trying to blank out the religious aspect from what happens in the region. The separation between religion and politics that you imagine is something that you project from your own thinking on others.

Read the Hamas charter. Is that a religious or a political document? You tell us. And yes, Hamas leaders were celebrating the murders and handing out candy.

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You are wrong. Islam is not simply a religion, it is also a political ideology.

When you consider that (as far as I know) no non-Christian has ever been elected president of the US, the same thing could be said of Christianity. Of course, no one says that though.

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Strangerland:

" When you consider that (as far as I know) no non-Christian has ever been elected president of the US, the same thing could be said of Christianity. Of course, no one says that though. "

Err.. I could comment about the current Potus who was born muslim (which is irreversible under islamic law), but never mind. The definition of political ideology is not who is president. The definition of political ideology is its content -- i.e. replacing secular laws with religious laws and ruling based on scripture. I assume you too did never read the Hamas Charter? I recommend you do.

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So you're wrong already.

Kikai: what you say in the anonymity of the web you will never repeat in public. Same is with the Muslim world, at the best they will say ' we feel bad but the Israeli's had it coming.

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StrangerlandNov. 19, 2014 - 01:35PM JST When you consider that (as far as I know) no non-Christian has ever been elected president of the US, the same thing could be said of Christianity. Of course, no one says that though.

What exactly does that have to do with the price of tea in China? 5 Jews were killed by 2 Arab Muslims and the PLO/Hama is blaming the victims for getting killed.

Name me a President that was adopted and raised in a Islamic household? Will wait for that response....That also means absolutely zilch.

Let's get back to reality, Islamic fanatics 5 humans. Now, since we got that bit of reality in place, let's get back to that special place.....reality......

deadbeatlesNov. 19, 2014 - 10:38AM JST Let's quit the pity party for the Jewish side of this argument. God is no more on the Jew side of killing than is Mohammed on the side of ISIS.

I am in any way, trying to mock you or seem condescending, but in the Islamic pantheon Mohammed/Muhammad was/is the last Prophet of Allah (god most high) who brought enlightenment to the people. Allah is the name of god in their belief same god of the Jews YHVH....

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we feel bad but the Israeli's had it coming.

And would they be in any way justified in making that statement? (It's a simple yes or no answer.)

This is a cycle of violence we are talking about. Has Israel done things to keep that cycle in motion? For example, like telling the world for decades that a strict policy of "Muslims-only" at their holy site would be honored? (And then passively sitting by and allowing certain "advance groups" among them to test that policy?)

Isn't that like playing with a hornet's nest?

If Israel had ever committed to such a policy for decades and now is tacitly trying to provoke actions to change it, it demonstrates that Israel can't be trusted. In fact, far from renouncing violence, Israel is provoking it.

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Yabits: The cycle of violence that you talk about is what the Palestinians live on. Its their bread and butter. There is a whole generation which realizes that having a job and doing a honest day's work does not pay as well as throwing stones and murdering innocents.

There are enough Muslims around the world who are more than happy to fund these zealots.

Israel, a Jewish state, allows a Muslm only policy says more than anything about this issue. Can you imagine a Muslim state doing the same?

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Israel, a Jewish state, allows a Muslm only policy says more than anything about this issue. Can you imagine a Muslim state doing the same? ... The cycle of violence that you talk about is what the Palestinians live on.

Why not look at history? Prior to the turn of the 20th century, a small Jewish minority had lived in Palestine for centuries amid an overwhelming Arab (mainly Muslim) majority. Jews were allowed freedom of worship in their synagogues and relations were peaceful. Don't take my word for it; here's a very devout and humble Jewish rabbi who was born in Jerusalem who will tell you who is behind all of this violence. (In the first five minutes...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIT9sLz29iQ

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Prior to the turn of the 20th century,

We dont live in that period anymore do we? Wake up and open your eyes to the real world.

Do you think by watching one video we can make up our minds about any conflict? Are you really that naive?

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Do you think by watching one video we can make up our minds about any conflict?

A hundred videos and books full of historical and contemporary facts will not budge the ignorant mind which remains closed to them. I am not naive to fail to see that this is what I am dealing with.

For those whose minds are still open to contemporary facts, here is another rabbi who lays out the real issue quite clearly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SYMj41Q9U

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(In the first five minutes...)

Interviewer: Let me start with a question, Are you not afraid of inviting a German into your home who if you look me up into the internet is supposed to be anti-Semitic?

I did not need the five minutes. That was enough for me to see that there was not going to be a lot of facts being presented.

What is ironic is that the video is from Bewusst TV, which is an excellent example of antisemitism.

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Let me start with a question, Are you not afraid of inviting a German into your home who if you look me up into the internet is supposed to be anti-Semitic?

Well, isn't that amazing? The interviewer doesn't waste any time trying to hide his reputation, or what others think of him. The rabbi behaves as a genuine devout Jew in his response.

That was enough for me to see that there was not going to be a lot of facts

And you don't see how you just made a liar out of yourself? You just admit seeing the "fact" presented, by the interviewer himself of the man's alleged antisemitism. Kindly stop kidding yourself: The main reason you turned away is because other genuine facts that you simply want to remain blind to are going to be presented.

As the rabbi in the second link points out, a real Jew would seek an audience with his worst enemy if it is in the interest of saving other Jews (or other people). The phony Jew will avert, shirt, run, and hide from such an action -- preferring to keep the tensions and animosities at a high level. They will even attack, torture and kill the real Jews among them -- for having the audacity to live and act according to the Torah. As Roger Cohen writes in the New York Times, taking the Palestinian's view:

"You hit people over the head once, twice, three times, four times, and the fifth they won’t take it any longer. That’s what the Israeli occupation is, daily humiliation. We’re noncitizens. We’re nothing, in our own land, for almost a half-century now. The only way to exist becomes to fight. Maybe violence leads nowhere. But at least it reminds Israelis that the miserable specks they no longer see are alive. Like a relative of the two martyrs said, “They were under pressures, pressures, pressures, and in one ripe moment the explosion took place.” If Israel wants the status quo, this is the bloody status quo. They expand the settlements, they take property in East Jerusalem, they blow up our homes, they kill hundreds of our children, they police our prayer, block our roads and businesses, take our water, pocket our taxes, deny us a port or airport, fracture us into Bantustans — and they tell us they want peace! They don’t, they want all the land. They want us to go away. Vanish. Disappear. Government ministers declare it openly. And that’s not incitement! The Jews say the land is theirs because the Bible says so — and that’s not making this a religious war! If we try moderation, we’re unilateralists; if we resist, we’re terrorists; if we mourn, we are death merchants; if we breathe, we are intruders. They don’t want two states, they want a “peace process” to camouflage colonial rule. Gaza is the way it is because that is the way Israel wants it in order to say, you see, peace with these people is impossible. They have all America, money, nuclear bombs, highways, drones, an army and technology. We have nothing. We are poor. We only have our narrative. But we will fight until we have a state that restores our pride."

That state will not be a Bantustan. The world is slowly coming to learn the great danger the Zionist state poses to it. If history is any indicator, I will cast my lot with the real Jew to prevail in the end.

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And you don't see how you just made a liar out of yourself?

As I pointed out before, the video is from Bewusst TV, which is an excellent example of antisemitism. The people such as the ones you linked are also often linked by wonderful sites such as Stormfront. They were also invited and attended the Holocaust Denial conference in Iran years back. That is certainly great company the people in your links find themselves in, aren't they?

I will cast my lot with the real Jew to prevail in the end.

It is not for you to say who is a 'real' Jew or not.

There is absolutely no excuse for the people that were killed. Your attempts to create excuses are weak at best.

Israel has a right to exist. It is recognized by the UN as having a right to exist.

From the internet:

The percentage of Israelis engaged in scientific and technological inquiry, and the amount spent on research and development (R&D) in relation to gross domestic product (GDP), is the highest in the world. Israel ranks fourth in the world in scientific activity as measured by the number of scientific publications per million citizens. Israel's percentage of the total number of scientific articles published worldwide is almost 10 times higher than its percentage of the world's population. Israel boasts the highest number of scientists, technicians, and engineers per capita in the world with 140 scientists, technicians, and engineers per 10,000 employees. In comparison, the same is 85 per 10,000 in the United States and 83 per 10,000 in Japan.

Also consider this from the internet:

Israeli scientists have developed methods for producing a human growth hormone and interferon, a group of proteins effective against viral infections. Copaxone, a medicine effective in the treatment of multiple sclerosis, was developed in Israel from basic research to industrial production. Genetic engineering has resulted in a wide range of diagnostic kits based on monoclonal antibodies, with other microbiological products

So, I would ask those against Israel to rethink their absolute opposition and reverse position to the more logical and reasonable position of insisting upon peace between Israel and a future Palestinian state. Considering that absolute opposition to Israel's existence has been of little to no help to the Palestinians over the last more than six decades, it seems to me that convincing both sides to negotiate for peace would make more sense.

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It is extremely sad, but true, that the seeds for these violent actions were sown by Israel itself.

As I pointed out before, the video is from Bewusst TV, which is an excellent example of antisemitism...That is certainly great company the people in your links find themselves in, aren't they?

I watched it to listen to what this gentle rabbi had so say. As the rabbi in the second link makes plain, the mission of genuine Judaism is to bring light to the world. That means not hiding from it, even the dark parts. Or perhaps it would be better to say especially the dark parts -- which are most in need of light.

It is not for you to say who is a 'real' Jew or not.

Each of us was given a brain to think with, and to decide what is real and what is not. If we see something we think is false or phony -- and if that matter is extremely important (as this one is) -- we should not hesitate to speak our minds. Decade after decade of this kind of senseless violence proves that this "entity" which claims to be a "jewish state" is no such thing. With every passing day, more and more people are waking up to this reality -- Just as I, a former blind supporter of Israel, did.

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It is extremely sad, but true, that the seeds for these violent actions were sown by Israel itself.

No, the seeds for these murders rest with the murderers that commited them.

If we see something we think is false or phony -- and if that matter is extremely important (as this one is) -- we should not hesitate to speak our minds.

Hmmm...Good idead.

You linked the above Rabbi' Josef Antebi's video several times this past summer with the description: (I have the JT links, but people can just search your words and they will come up.)

When a government sends agents to a European country to torture and make a cripple out of a devout rabbi of their own alleged faith, what is the limit of their evil?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIT9sLz29iQ

Except, that is not an accurate description of the events at all (Did someone say something about lying?):

Antebi thought the man that attacked him was against the state of Israel and that is why he was attacked. He further said:

“He shouted negative things about my religion and about my people,” said Antebi, who was born in Israel but says he does not recognize its right to exist and describes himself as a Palestinian Jew.

He further said:

“I’m not surprised he did what he did, it’s human behavior,” Antebi told JTA. “The one to blame is the Zionist state, which is doing a lot of bad things to people.”

http://www.jta.org/2013/06/25/news-opinion/world/anti-zionist-rabbi-says-immigrant-assaulted-him-in-amsterdam#ixzz3JeDr6dtw

This rabbi is clearly not thinking straight and has decided to blame others for something misfortunate that happened to him. yabits, you did the exact same thing when you claim several times last summer that 'Zionists had attacked him'. In fact, that is the completely inaccurate title of the video as well. So, we can see that accuracy is not very important to the people showing this rabbi or the one talking about it here on JT. People such as David Duke, has also featured this rabbi on his site several times.

It is not for such people to say who is a 'real' Jew or not.

From the internet:

Israeli scientists have contributed to the advancement of agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, genetics, health care, optics, solar energy and various fields of engineering. Israel is home to major players in the high tech industry and has one of the world's most technologically-literate populations. In 1998, Tel Aviv was named by Newsweek as one of the ten most technologically influential cities in the world. Since 2000, Israel has been a member of EUREKA, the pan-European research and development funding and coordination organization, and held the rotating chairmanship of the organization for 2010–2011. In 2010, the journalist David Kaufman, wrote that the high tech area of Yokneam, Israel has the "world's largest concentration of aesthetics-technology companies". Google's Chairman Eric Schmidt complimented the country during a visit there, saying that “Israel has the most important high-tech center in the world after the US.”

Israel has shown itself to be a valuable country to the world and to mankind. The answer to the Middle East's problems is a peaceful two-state land for peace solution as suggested by the UN.

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No, the seeds for these murders rest with the murderers that commited them.

We have to disagree. For many hundreds of years, devout Jews lived peacefully among the Arab Muslims of Palestine. These kinds of murders never happened. The Zionists brought murder and ethnic cleansing with them. It won't be able to succeed. The evils being committed in the name of Judaism will return horrendous results, despite what the phony Jews view as material benefits and minor victories. May they come to their senses and change from their evil doings.

Antebi thought the man that attacked him was against the state of Israel and that is why he was attacked. He further said:

The beautiful thing about the link is that readers can view it for themselves. There is no doubt. At the 33rd minute, the rabbi tells us the Zionists threatened his mother on her death bed that they would kill her son if he didn't stop his criticism of the Zionist state. At the 41st minute, the rabbi relates how his torturers beat him more every time they found anti-Zionist literature in his place and drove him to a building where other Zionists were waiting to continue the threats and abuse. The rebbe's words: "If they will do this to a Jew, how much worse they would do to a non-Jew."

I understand this is very hard for some to accept.

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We have to disagree.

Yup. I see no excuse for murder.

The beautiful thing about the link is that readers can view it for themselves.

Yup. For example when Antebi shows a birth certificate he claims proves he is a Palestinian Jew, he neglects to mention that he is 51 years old and that the certificate is pre 1948 and that of his mother. Antebi is an Israeli with an Israeli passport and birth certificate. The 'interviewer' just looks at the paper and says something like, 'Ah yes, it says Palestinian Jew.' and leaves it at that putting the paper down.

The 'interviewer' then goes on to say something like, 'Wow, we only think of Jews as coming from Israel. But, they were in Palestine, too.' Huh? Who is this 'we'?

Where is the report about what you claim is true on the 33rd and 41 minutes of that video?

I understand this is very hard for some to accept.

I only accept facts, thank you.

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Yup. I see no excuse for murder.

Then there is no excuse for murdering Palestinians -- which the Zionists have been doing for decades.

For example when Antebi shows a birth certificate he claims proves he is a Palestinian Jew, he neglects to mention that he is 51 years old and that the certificate is pre 1948 and that of his mother.

The video of Rabbi Dovid Weiss helps to explain that. The Zionists don't want the world to know that genuine Jews have peacefully co-existed with Palestinian Arabs for many centuries. (Until the Zionists brought murder and ethnic cleansing with them.) Rebbe Antebi was born in Jerusalem to authentic Palestinian Jews. That the blasphemous force of Zionism forced new identity documents on them is nothing he could have prevented.

Where is the report about what you claim is true on the 33rd and 41 minutes of that video?

I have no worries or qualms recommending others to view it and judge for themselves -- per my comment above.

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A hundred videos and books full of historical and contemporary facts will not budge the ignorant mind which remains closed to them.

@yabits: A closed mind will find a hundred books which spew hate and take it for truth because his own mind has nothing but hate.

(Until the Zionists brought murder and ethnic cleansing with them.)

Try catching up on your reading with open eyes, you will know who set in place this murderous cycle.

The Palestinians have got used to living on pity for so long that they think its their birthright.

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Then there is no excuse for murdering Palestinians

Never said there was. There isn't. Both sides need to stop. Both sides need to make peace. Both sides.

In this case that is explained in this article, the murderers also have no excuse, but you are unsuccessfully trying to create one. There is no excuse for murder.

The video of Rabbi Dovid Weiss helps to explain that.

No, it does not. Antebi is Israeli. His passport is Israeli. His birth certificate is Israeli. These are facts. Your family is from Germany, but you are American. Your birth certificate and passport are American. It is the same thing. You can say you are not American all you want, but you are in reality American. This rabbi is Israeli.

Antebi is also shows his racism as well. His description of his assailant was the following:

Rabbi Josef Antebi, 50, an Orthodox Jew who lives in Amsterdam, told JTA he was assaulted on Sunday in the Dutch capital by a young man who “had relatively dark skin and didn’t look very Dutch, or at least didn’t look like his family has been living in Holland for centuries.”

“had relatively dark skin and didn’t look very Dutch, or at least didn’t look like his family has been living in Holland for centuries.” huh? What does 'look very Dutch mean'? There are many citizens of Amsterdam from many places around the world. Why, Antebi is one of them.

I have no worries or qualms recommending others to view it and judge for themselves

Yes. However, most people would prefer not to look at a long video that contains no basis in reality. As such, I will ask my question again.

Where is the report about what you claim is true on the 33rd and 41 minutes of that video?

I am going to with my hunch that you have no proof whatsoever as anyone that had it would have produced it already. As such, I have no worries or qualms about recommending people not bothering to view it as it would merely be a waste of time. From the article I linked, it is clear that the Dutch authorities do not take Antebi's comments very seriously. Neither do I.

Jews view as material benefits and minor victories

? Huge progress in the fields of technology, agriculture and medicine are material and minor benefits? Tell that to the millions of lives improved by this progress. Sorry. The only answer is peace and the only way toward peace is a land for peace two state deal. It will happen. It is the future.

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Never said there was. There isn't. Both sides need to stop. Both sides need to make peace. Both sides.

It was not the Palestinians who traveled over a thousand miles to Europe to murder Jews and ethnically cleanse them from the lands they had lived on for centuries. It was the Zionists who brought that with them to Palestine, to visit it upon the Arab inhabitants who had treated Jews justly and with friendliness also for centuries.

This is why Rabbi Antebi's message infuriates the Zionists to the point where they sent agents to torture him and threaten him with death. Yes, not only did Zionists come to Palestine to torture and murder, but they've turned around and brought it back to Europe too. And to a devout Jewish rabbi. There is no limit to what they would do.

There is no excuse for murder.

And yet, the Zionists have carried it out wholesale on the Palestinians for decades now -- claiming to want "peace" by offering land they themselves stole in the first place. No. It is clear that what the Zionists want is an eternal peace process -- one that gives them all the time they need to achieve their goals while being subtle about them.

No, it does not. Antebi is Israeli. His passport is Israeli.

Antebi was born a Palestinian Jew, to Palestinian Jewish parents -- whose roots go back many generations. He attests that his family and the families of other Jews in the Palestinian community lived in harmonious relations with the Arabs -- until Zionism entered the picture. Antebi is a now citizen of Holland and holds a Dutch passport.

The two men who came to the Rabbi's home in March of 2000 to brutally torture him and leave him an invalid -- applying electric shock and breaking bones -- were agents of the Zionist state. At the 41:00 mark, he names a few of the Zionists associated with them. Viewers can judge for themselves if the rabbi appears to be of sound mind. The devout, genuine Jews who oppose the Zionist state know his story is true.

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It was not the Palestinians who traveled over a thousand miles to Europe to murder Jews and ethnically cleanse them from the lands they had lived on for centuries.

It was not the Palestinian Jews, either. In the late 1800's Jews legally bought lands in Palestine from Arabs, much of it wasteland. They bought large pieces of land and this worried Palestinian Arabs.

This is why Rabbi Antebi's message infuriates the Zionists to the point where they sent agents to torture him and threaten him with death.

Again, where is the news report about this? We have the one about a traffic dispute. Where is this one? You see, because Antebi makes claims in the article I linked that make no sense and were not taken seriously by anyone in Amsterdam.

And yet, the Zionists have carried it out wholesale on the Palestinians for decades now

No, both sides have done a pretty good job of murdering. I do not excuse it on either side. Peace is the only answer. The two state solution is the only way.

Antebi was born a Palestinian Jew

No,he was born in the 60's. There was no Palestinian legal entity when he was born. He was legally born an Israeli Jew. His birth certificate is Israeli. His passport is Israeli. You and he are free to say he comes from out of space, too. But, he was born in the recognized state of Israel.

Antebi is a now citizen of Holland and holds a Dutch passport.

Did he give up his Israeli passport? That is the one he used to get to Holland.

The two men who came to the Rabbi's home in March of 2000

Where is the hospital report? Where is the news report? The rabbi reports a traffic dispute, but did not see the need to report being tortured? Sorry, but I require the same confirmations and proof that I know you would require if we were talking about the Brown case in the US and you have not made that by a long shot.

Viewers can judge for themselves if the rabbi appears to be of sound mind.

The authorities in Amsterdam did not take him seriously. I see no reason for anyone to take him seriously.

The devout, genuine Jews who oppose the Zionist state know his story is true.

Yes, well. Fanatics always know their stories are 'true'. The rest of us know better.

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