4 killed in shooting at Tulsa medical building; shooter dead

We need to address the culture that creates shooters. We have had guns since the country was founded, but shooters are a relatively new phenomenon.

Sadly this may eventually end up not being news anymore, just part of the routine thanks to the fixation the US culture have with guns and violence.

We need to address the culture that creates shooters. We have had guns since the country was founded, but shooters are a relatively new phenomenon.

I agree.

We need to address the culture that creates shooters. 

Translation: do nothing, as usual.

You should probably make guns more difficult to obtain in a culture that creates shooters.

just more than two weeks after shooting at a Buffalo supermarket by a white man who is accused of killing 10 Black people in a racist attack.

i am quite sure this particular shooting will not be described in such an inflammatory and divisive way.

Translation: do nothing, as usual. 

If all the other serious issues pertaining to gun violence are not addressed, probably

You should probably make guns more difficult to obtain in a culture that creates shooters.

That wouldn’t help.

We have had guns since the country was founded, but shooters are a relatively new phenomenon.

More frequent, yes. Relatively new? According to what? The dawn of man?

On March 28, 1891 a man with a doubled barreled shotgun fired upon a crowd of students and faculty attending a school exhibition in Parson Hall School House in Liberty, Mississippi. The perpetrator wounded over fourteen people mostly children, with several being seriously wounded. This incident is perhaps one of the earliest reported school mass shootings in the country.

On April 9, 1891 James Foster went inside St. Mary’s Parochial School in New York, and opened fire.

4 killed in shooting at Tulsa medical building, shooter dead:

Good Morning, or should it be Bad Morning, yet another unforgivable massacre on defenseless victims.

Recent Memorial Day weekend saw multiple mass shootings all over.

People of America, do you like that, want more? How many more..?

Then why as a non-American suggest?

I'd like to see fewer innocent people - including 10-year-olds - shot and killed every day while Americans twiddle their thumbs and point randomly at things to blame.

When a cop shoots a suspect, it's the cop's fault.

When a non-white individual shoots a white person, it's the gun's fault.

( or in the case of Waukesha, the vehicle's fault ) And it's never a hate crime even if the non-white person explicitly stated that he/she wanted to kill white people.

When a shooting suspect who is caucasian shoots a person of any background, it's the ever mythical white supremacy.

Amazing how the leftists try to artificially control the narrative.

Then why as a non-American suggest?

Or are you saying that Americans never interfere in other countries' affairs?

I'd like to see fewer innocent people - including 10-year-olds - shot and killed every day while Americans twiddle their thumbs and point randomly at things to blame.

Trust me, when I hear the news of children dying Every day and cities like Chicago Oakland, Baltimore Detroit as well as DC I feel the same and yet no one is doing anything about it, so we agree on that one. The bigger question is these states and cities have the strictest gun laws, why won’t they do anything about that? These are the things as Americans, we think about.

Or are you saying that Americans never interfere in other countries' affairs?

Oh, we do, and I don’t like it, but when you’re the main superpower, there are a lot of things that you can do, especially when the world needs you or depends on you in some form of capacity.

Shooting in America?! Wow I would have never imagined that.

I thought the US and its fine people were greatest country and society that has ever existed.

bass4funk,

Fair enough.

The bigger question is these states and cities have the strictest gun laws, why won’t they do anything about that?

Because there is still a constitutional right for almost anybody to own almost any firearm for self defense, and the Supreme Court made sure the individual states could do nothing against that in McDonald vs Chicago.

So they may have the strictest gun laws in the country, but they're incredibly loose compared to other wealthy nations. For example, while a right to self defense (including with a firearm if reasonable) is recognised in those other countries, it's not a valid reason for ownership by itself. Instead, with the applicable licenses and registrations, you can buy and own guns for the purposes of hunting and sport shooting and so on. For those reasons, somebody like the Uvalde shooter can't simply walk into a gun store and walk out 15 minutes later with an AR-15 style, high-powered, rapid fire rifle.

...days after his 18th birthday.

I thought the US and its fine people were greatest country and society that has ever existed.

No Country is perfect, not even the US

Because there is still a constitutional right for almost anybody to own almost any firearm for self defense, and the Supreme Court made sure the individual states could do nothing against that in McDonald vs Chicago. 

Yes, and?

So they may have the strictest gun laws in the country, but they're incredibly loose compared to other wealthy nations.

They don’t have a second amendment, and we do and other countries can do whatever they want that’s your choice, our choice is to keep our Second Amendment and we like it like that.

For example, while a right to self defense (including with a firearm if reasonable) is recognised in those other countries, it's not a valid reason for ownership by itself. Instead, with the applicable licenses and registrations, you can buy and own guns for the purposes of hunting and sport shooting and so on.

I know

For those reasons, somebody like the Uvalde shooter can't simply walk into a gun store and walk out 15 minutes later with an AR-15 style, high-powered, rapid fire rifle.

then he would’ve used or done something else, we still have knives access to materials for bombmaking, we have all kinds of things and if someone is intent on trying to harm you or kill you, they will find away, and even if it’s one person that is killed is too many, so it doesn’t matter what the instrument is, we already have enough stringent gun laws in place, they’re just not being enforced, and while you also have the defund the police movement, reducing police presence, not allowing people to defend themselves, an open border, all of our elected leaders and officials have the right to pay for someone to protect them, but the average citizen can’t, especially when they are living in an area where there are few or no police available, because of the shortage is that we have? Again, it’s never going to happen. We will keep our Second Amendment.

Yes, and?

You asked, I answered.

They don’t have a second amendment, and we do and other countries can do whatever they want that’s your choice, our choice is to keep our Second Amendment and we like it like that.

You like it like that. Good for you, and you can keep it. That's why you have more gun violence than any other comparable nation, and you're reading about yet another mass shooting. Yippee.

then he would’ve used or done something else, we still have knives access to materials for bombmaking, we have all kinds of things and if someone is intent on trying to harm you or kill you, they will find away, and even if it’s one person that is killed is too many, so it doesn’t matter what the instrument is, we already have enough stringent gun laws in place, they’re just not being enforced, and while you also have the defund the police movement, reducing police presence, not allowing people to defend themselves, an open border, all of our elected leaders and officials have the right to pay for someone to protect them, but the average citizen can’t, especially when they are living in an area where there are few or no police available, because of the shortage is that we have? Again, it’s never going to happen. We will keep our Second Amendment.

Dodge, duck, dive and dodge. Yeah, yeah. Tell me again tomorrow when another 10 innocent people are dead because of a poorly written, ambiguous, 200 year old document.

Why are shooting arcades and shooting games so satisfying for some people?

You asked, I answered.

I see

You like it like that.

Please don’t assume what I am thinking.

Good for you, and you can keep it. That's why you have more gun violence than any other comparable nation, and you're reading about yet another mass shooting. Yippee.

Yippee? Hmmm, fail to see the humor, but anyway, once these Democrat leaders can clean up their crime-ridden cities and enforce their strict gun laws that’s where you will start to see a decline in gun homicides. Again, we are talking about certain sectors of America and not the entire nation.

Dodge, duck, dive and dodge. Yeah, yeah.

In those areas, sadly, yes.

200 year old document.

Proud of it too.

Four people were killed Wednesday in a shooting at a Tulsa medical building on a hospital campus, a police captain said.

This is a tragedy but thankfully one which is rare. Hopefully it shines the light on the daily gun violence in urban areas primarily in certain big cities in the US.

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You like it like that. Good for you, and you can keep it. That's why you have more gun violence than any other comparable nation, and you're reading about yet another mass shooting. Yippee.

There is no other comparable nation to the US (sorry tiny Canada). If there were, then there would be two global superpowers, to start.

There are not.

bass4funk: "we like it like that."

Me: You like it like that.

bass4funk: "Please don’t assume what I am thinking."

Comedy. Gold.

There is no other comparable nation to the US (sorry tiny Canada). If there were, then there would be two global superpowers, to start.

Well, no other rich nation would put up with the daily carnage and gun violence that America does, that's for sure. And there are certainly other things that America has a lot more of than other countries. None of them good.

Well, no other rich nation would put up with the daily carnage and gun violence that America does, that's for sure. And there are certainly other things that America has a lot more of than other countries. None of them good.

There is no other rich nation like the US.

There is no other rich nation like the US.

But there are other rich nations. Keep trying, you'll score one day.

According to other agencies the shooter couldn’t find the person he wanted to see (and talk to or shoot, who knows), a doctor or physician of that hospital, and that’s why he then suddenly turned wild and caused the amok and shooting situation during which he also finally shot himself.