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4 shot outside San Francisco schools; suspects at large

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But guns are safe, because responsible 'carriers' will rush in and prevent the bad guys from doing anything. Works every time.

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God bless the second amendment.

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And the beat goes on..............

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It could easily been because she refused to be a whore for them. In high school.

It could also have easily been that she was a high-level drug kingpin, running under the moniker 'Badass Mary', who had an international network of drug dealers, importing fentanyl from China, cocaine from Colombia, and Heroin from Afghanistan, and she had gained enemies by secretly recruiting her younger brother's best friend's cousin to act as a mule, causing his step-father (his real father was dead but that's a different story) to become enraged, and hire the Hell's Angels to find someone to perform the hit against her. In high school.

But you know, all speculation.

So maybe we should just wait for facts.

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The female student most probably threatened these 4 law-abiding citizens as we all know US guns are mostly used in self defence (or for hunting/feeding one's family, i think).

In fact they ran away after the shooting, probably still in fear for their lives. Thank God they had guns to protect themselves otherwise could have been a carnage.

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extra security and counselors for students will be available, it said

Sadly, I think they'd be better off making bullet-proof vests available.

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Unless you're a politician with Secret Service protection, no place in the US is safe any more.

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Guns, kill so does knives!! Neither object discriminates when it comes to death!

But one is way more effective.

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More people should be armed and well trained in handling firearms, from grade school through to geriatrics. Only this will make the bad guys think twice.

Yep... shoot them in the back instead of the front.

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The kids know more about why than the adults do. It could easily been because she refused to be a whore for them. In high school.

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Unless you're a politician with Secret Service protection, no place in the US is safe any more.

Actually, violent crime levels have fallen significantly since their peak in 1991. The US is safer today than it has been in a long, long time. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/427758/careful-panic-violent-crime-and-gun-crime-are-both-dropping-charles-c-w-cooke

But, the problem with the US is the high proliferation of guns, and while crime rates are down, anyone, anytime, anywhere could be shot and killed, even elementary kids going to class, or people watching a movie.

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It could also have easily been that she was a high-level drug kingpin, running under the moniker 'Badass Mary',.........

@Strangerland,

Your speculations may not be that far off. Maybe not so much that the targeted female was some kind of drug "queen pin" but more like she was in a position to have seen too much, heard too much and to have known too much. Disgruntled girlfriends and ex-lovers are an effective resource for law enforcement and there are many documented cases of drug dealers being brought down by intelligence acquired from just that specific demographic. In many gangs, "snitching" is a capital offence and there are a number of documented cases of former girlfriends and hanger-ons who have met their end because they were perceived to have had a big mouth and talked, too much.

But like you said;

all speculation.

So maybe we should just wait for facts.

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Actually, violent crime levels have fallen significantly since their peak in 1991. The US is safer today than it has been in a long, long time. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/427758/careful-panic-violent-crime-and-gun-crime-are-both-dropping-charles-c-w-cooke

..you do know National Review and NRA are basically on the 'same team'?

Although US crime levels have decreased, they are still much higher than any developed countries, even those that have more lax criteria for what is considered a crime like the UK.

Additionally, the crime stats are only good as what the data FBI is able to collect. Since police in US are not mandated to provide crime data, let alone accurate data, the supposedly declining crime rate in US is dubious.

Furthermore, it has been proven that white crime often goes under-reported vs black crime which is over-reported. Since whites still make up dominant population in the US, you can bet they are involved in their share of violent crime.

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Two in three days, peeps. Just another day in the US, of course.

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Stangeland, i like your comments about "the second amendment" well I've read the second amendment and I can't find anything about the right to carry firearms, only arms, does this mean a stick or a wooden club, or metal pole? I know that the gun laws are pretty lax in the USA, but can they ever tighten them up? I don't think so, please take a look at this you tube comedian who looks at the USA gun laws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0 (Jimmy Jeffries)

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A fourth victim hurt in the shooting went to the Bayview Police Station, Manfredi said.

Apparently Bayview/Hunter's Point is the worst neighborhood in the city for crime, worse than the Tenderloin or Mission districts, and accounts for about a third of the homicide total for the entire city of SF (says a thread post at streetadvisor).

http://www.streetadvisor.com/san-francisco-san-francisco-county-california/questions/worst-neighborhood-in-san-francisco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayview-Hunters_Point,_San_Francisco#Marginalization

... Gang and drug activity, as well as a high murder rate, have plagued the Bayview-Hunters Point district. A 2001 feature article in the San Francisco Chronicle cited feuding between small local gangs as the major cause of the area's unsolved homicides ...

The neighborhood was the subject of a 2003 documentary, Straight Outta Hunters Point ... and a 2012 sequel ... that expose the daily drama of gang-related wars plaguing a community already fighting for social and economic survival. ...

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Guns, kill so does knives!! Neither object discriminates when it comes to death!

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I suspect IF Hillary wins the presidency watch gun sales spike. I'm contemplating myself......

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More people should be armed and well trained in handling firearms, from grade school through to geriatrics. Only this will make the bad guys think twice.

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@bass4funk... I'd be glad to sit back along side and watch it come 'toldyaso'...

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This was California where only criminals & cops are armed. If they tried it in Texas, it would likely be a different story.

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If the students had been armed they could've fought back and killed the bad guys.

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