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The 26-year-old Iraqi asylum-seeker will be getting his asylum in a Danish jail, hopefully for life.

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Planning on killing people over a cartoon. OK.

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A symptom of Scandinavia's "multicultural" policies, which naively allow indiscriminate, mass immmigration.

Europe is reaping what it sows. Mulism terror attacks there have been, in the words of a British police official, "not a matter of if but when." Prepare for a future of relentless religious violence, Euro suckers.

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What I do not understand is that you are allowed to name your son Mohammad (Spelling varies), but you are not allowed to draw a picture of the guy. This does not make sense. If one names someone Mohammad, are they not taking the implied that this person is named in the image of this Mohamed? Ban the name too if you are rally that serious about this silly stuff.

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“An imminent terror attack has been foiled,”

There sure are a lot of foiled attacks recently, seems to be almost daily news. I know the conspiracy theories claim these are staged and false flag events, but if you don't buy that (I don't) it seems the explanation must be that surveillance ability has reached unbelievable levels these days. Looks like communication is now completely monitored and filtered, and terrorists and would-be terrorists haven't yet figured out that they can't communicate by cell phone or internet anymore. Maybe the authorities are also getting tipped off, but electronic surveillance seems to be a more likely explanation.

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Countries like Denmark accept these immigrants/refugees/asylum seekers under the openness of their system and offers them full rights to free exercise of religion and speech. And then these people decide that other residents of their new home should not be allowed such freedoms, and will kill randomly to make their point. Truly amazing how low their religion can drag them. Is this how to treat a host who's taken you in?

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@JeffLee -- I agree. When a majority, Islam is dictatorial. When a minority, it is angry.

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Western countries should just deport all family members of the perps and maybe these ingrates would reconsider their back stabbing ways to the societies that are so willing to let them get another chance in life. Revoke citizenship and put them in a Gitmo like places.

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They should have no rights now and be thrown back to where they came from along with their famillies, make an example of them.

Seems these muslim radicals just wont stop and I know many westerners or non muslims are getting a bit tired of them behaving like petulent little children at every slight they feel.

Who cares what they think or feel now!!!!!

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Imagine what it is like to live under permanent and serious death sentence. The Danish cartoonists are not the only ones -- there are people all over Europe who have to live in permanent fear for the crime of "offending" the religion of peace by drawing a cartoon, makeing a film, or writing an article. And with the muslim population expanding in leaps and bounds, there is no end to this in sight, to the contrary. Good bye, Western freedoms, hello Shariah.

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" “I am shocked that a group of people have concrete plans to commit a serious terrorist attack in this country,” Danish Prime Minister Loekke Rasmussen told reporters. "

As sad as this story is, but I had laugh at this line. He sounds exactly like the police commissionar in Casablanca. He is shocked, oh shocked to see jihadism among the mohammedan population! LOL

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An Iraqi turned to terror?

Can't understand why, best blame this squarely on Euro multi-cultiness instead!

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An Iraqi exile turned to terror, and over a few cartoons in a newspaper.

Cartoons.

Mind you, this was a paper published in probabaly the most tolerant and progressive nation in Europe.

Yes, bodes well for a warm and fuzzy futre.

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solidaritea:

" An Iraqi exile turned to terror, "

Not just an "exile", an asylum recipient. That means the Danish government supports him and his family with a residence permit, social security, free health insurance, housing, education, all of which without condition and paid for by Danish taxpayers.

In exchange for such generosity, I suppose the Danes expected some gratitude, or at least respect for his hosts.... tragic error.

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"An Iraqi exile turned to terror, and over a few cartoons in a newspaper."

Oh he's not the only Iraqi to do so this far, Old Friend.

"Yes, bodes well for a warm and fuzzy futre."

Not really. There'll plenty more Iraqi's drawn to the cause I imagine, the so-called war on terror that actually did the opposite.

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"all of which without condition and paid for by Danish taxpayers."

Do you just make this stuff up willi?

The over-generous system is being abused in the EU by all kinds of spongers, not just your hated muslims.

I fear you'll get your wish and see European's bring back the extreme right as a "solution".

Personally I'm hoping reason will see the day and they'll all be put to work whether they want to or not.

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Muppets! This too is idolatry, mirror image: instead of worshiping an image of Mohammed, they are killing over an image of Mohammed. Fixation with the image is the problem, guys! Get over it. Muppets...

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I am with GJDailleult. Big Brother is watching. But I am still not crossing out false flags, patsies, set ups and entrapment. There is no reason all of the above cannot be used in concert.

But, if these 5 guys weren't on a fool errand to defend Mohammad, they would be something else equally murderous. They are just nuts. Islam was not the cause, it was the vehicle, and there were many vehicles in the lot to choose from.

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Madverts: Oh he's not the only Iraqi to do so this far, Old Friend.

Just give it up. Seriously.

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Islam is a great magnet for disenchanted egomaniacs. It gives self-obsessed individuals a chance to be heroes in a simplistic moral universe, where they get to forget about what jerks they are and turn their life's purpose into a jihad. This sort of bizarre mindset and behavior deserves caricature, and most appropriately the prophet who inspires them.

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runwithscissors at 08:54 PM JST - 30th December But, if these 5 guys weren't on a fool errand to defend Mohammad, they >would be something else equally murderous. They are just nuts. Islam was >not the cause, it was the vehicle, and there were many vehicles in the ?>lot to choose from.

I don't deny that Islam was the vehicle. But I'm not going to buy that these same guys would kill people over gay rights or high taxes.

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"Just give it up. Seriously."

Give up what exactly, Super? Is it an un-true statement to say he's not the first loony Iraqi attempting jihad directly because of the American invasion?

Be honest...

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madverts:

" Not really. There'll plenty more Iraqi's drawn to the cause I imagine, the so-called war on terror that actually did the opposite. "

Get real. The so-called "war on terrorism" (which I think is misguided too) did not cause terrorism. It was PRECEDED by it. And jihadist terrorism happens in places in the world that have zilch connection with it.

In the even, his co-jihadists from are from Tunesia and Lebanon, which are pretty far away from Iraq.

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Madverts:

" Is it an un-true statement to say he's not the first loony Iraqi attempting jihad directly because of the American invasion? "

Yes, it obviously untrue. He wanted to revenge a friggin CARTOON, not any war.

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rumwithscissors:

" But, if these 5 guys weren't on a fool errand to defend Mohammad, they would be something else equally murderous. They are just nuts. Islam was not the cause, it was the vehicle, and there were many vehicles in the lot to choose from. "

Oh really? What other "vehicles" would there be justify a mass-murder suicide attack on a Danish newspaper?

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I don't deny that Islam was the vehicle. But I'm not going to buy that these same guys would kill people over gay rights or high taxes.

But only because they grew up in the wrong culture for that. And why not try something like abortion, misguided revenge (McVeigh) or things that seem to have no motive like the many school attacks or the Uni-bomber. Nuts are nuts, but given some stupid rhetoric in Muslim societies, the nuts are just more organized around their excuses and that is all.

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That's what fundies do willi.

Cartoons, words......actions.

A koran in the toilet caused rioting through the muslim world. What effect did you expect when America, and not without immense contraversy, invades a percieved muslim land?

Let me know who should "get real" here!

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Madverts: Give up what exactly, Super? Is it an un-true statement to say he's not the first loony Iraqi attempting jihad directly because of the American invasion? Be honest...

Anyone could say it, just surprised that it's coming from you.

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The over-generous system is being abused in the EU by all kinds of spongers, not just your hated muslims.

But the others aren't biting the hand that feeds it.

I guess this random event is only done by "nuts". Well it seems islam is producing a lot of "nuts" that want to "kill" people because they think someone portrayed them as "bad". Then they plan to kill people for real to prove that they aren't bad? That is not nuts. That is Islam's trait for free thinking.

A koran in the toilet caused rioting through the muslim world. What effect did you expect when America, and not without immense contraversy, invades a percieved muslim land?

Wow then I guess the invasion of this "percieved" muslim land would be justified if they burnt an effigy of a President or a flag of another country after all that is worse than a cartoon in a newspaper. Who could blame Americans for wanting to nuke the world with all the flags and effigies burnt around the world by this poor poor pitiful group of idiots and their apologists.

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"Who could blame Americans for wanting to nuke the world with all the flags and effigies burnt around the world by this poor poor pitiful group of idiots and their apologists."

Could somebody put this into sense for me?

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"Anyone could say it, just surprised that it's coming from you."

And I in turn have been bewildered at the comments from ye!?

If you find the statement un-fair then explain lucidly in your own inimitable way....

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Oh really? What other "vehicles" would there be justify a mass-murder suicide attack on a Danish newspaper?

Virtually any social or economic group, anarchists seem to be in fashion this year.

What effect did you expect when America, and not without immense contraversy, invades a percieved muslim land?

Muslim extremists have been doing this for a while. In 1977 12 extremists took hostages in D.C to protest the showing a movie about the life of Mohammad (Mohammad, Messenger of God) despite the fact the movie depicted neither Mohammad or his family physically or in voice, they killed two and injured others.

The link between the invasions and this decade's free speech vs Islam issue does exist. However, it'd attribute these incidents to the increased number of muslim immigrants to non-muslim nations, the war certainly contributes to that but most of those leaving these conflicted zones do so to, well, leave behind the conflict.

Mixing cultures over such a short span of time is bound to cause problems, between the riots in France, the Mosque ban in Switzerland, and the cartoons in Denmark I find it hard to believe that the war is the main cause of this friction. Increased cross-cultural contact inevitably leads to conflict, how long this period of unrest lasts is entierly dependant on how the moderates of both groups decide to conduct themselves.

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The Q,

"Mixing cultures over such a short span of time is bound to cause problems, between the riots in France, the Mosque ban in Switzerland, and the cartoons in Denmark I find it hard to believe that the war is the main cause of this friction."

You make some good points. The rioting in France, whilst perp'd by mostly muslim immigrants had nothing to do with Islam or extremism, it's a home-grown rotten fruit from the Frenc colonial tree of Denial. Things such as other Euro nations either excercising their free speech towards Islam, or even protecting their own cultrues through law-making is a trend since W ordered the bombardement of Baghdad.

I'll agree a touch of coinicidence, but to say that the so-called war on terror hasn't done the exact opposite is in direct Denial of incidents such as these.

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I'll agree a touch of coinicidence, but to say that the so-called war on terror hasn't done the exact opposite is in direct Denial of incidents such as these.

Fighting terrorists and creating them are not mutually exclusive. In truth the U.S military is doing what it does best, it kills people and builds stuff. While we call it the war on terror we don't know exactly what the end goal of said war is. If it's making the U.S secure than that was doomed from the start, if it's to give extremists second thoughts about attacking the U.S than it's also largely unsuccessful as there have been multiple attempts to commit acts of terror on U.S soil since the wars started. We simply don't know how well the war is doing as we don't know the outcome we were trying to achieve. One could say it's doing poorly for the reasons above or that it is doing well due to the enemy body count. for all we know OBL died of kidney failure a few years ago (doubt it) and our continued involvement in the middle east is a long term training program to ensure the U.S military continues recieving such a large portion of the budget. Or perhapse to monitor the long term performance of our troops. Were that the case we could at least begin measuring our performance.

What we need are SMART goals. Some examples include: # militants killed per month until our date of withdrawl, completion of stable power grid in Iraq by the end of next year, burn down 80% of poppy fields in Afghanistan by the end of next year, or x number of new weapon systems tested on militants before wars end. I, for one, would love to see a Hercules with a onboard powerplant testing the railguns that the navy has been working on.

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The Q,

In my opinion a religious fanatic is similat to a paedophile. He 'aint never gonna change his ways so snuffing off, or perpetual internment are the only viable option.

After the mess created in Iraq a backlash was inevitable. From what I read today 1 in 1000 Iraqis have lost a family member since 2003...

How could it be otherwise?

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And to think this whole plot was taken down without the need to invade a country.

Amazing.

Taka

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The Question: The link between the invasions and this decade's free speech vs Islam issue does exist. However, it'd attribute these incidents to the increased number of muslim immigrants to non-muslim nations

And you use the Hanafi Siege to back that up? I do not think I have ever seen anything so completely misrepresented! About the only thing you got right was the year and the place! Probably the most important things you need to know are 1) that those were not Muslim immigrants. They were Nation of Islam which is about as related to Islam as Voodoo is to Christianity. They were American born. Second, their principle demand was to get their murdering leader freed from jail. The Mohammad thing was purely secondary. Lastly, the siege was ended thanks to three true Muslim ambassadors who read the Koran, correctly, to the gunmen.

The problem is not Islam. The problem is not immigrants. The problem is not Islamic immigrants. The problem is nutcases. And people like you getting the facts all wrong and making intentional omissions sure don't help matters.

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And you use the Hanafi Siege to back that up?

No, the bit about the Hanafi Siege was in reguards to a belief that muslims had been commiting acts of violence in large part due to the wars in the middle east. By using the siege I was merely pointing out that people of the muslim persuasion have been capable of some pretty nasty stuff long before the invasion. It's all about context.

The problem is not Islam. The problem is not immigrants. The problem is not Islamic immigrants.

Never said it was. I'm simply pointing out that with a rapid increase in immigration there are bound to be incidents ranging from peaceful discussion and protest to the occasional murder attempt.

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All your post is is an admission of several things I accused you of except you slapped the label of "nuh-uhhh!" on it. Who are you trying to kid?

Just having a population of living breathing people means there are bound to be peaceful discussions, protests and murder attempts. So what is your point?

And I am going to say this is loud and so clear a child could understand: The Hanafi Siege was started by Muslim wannabees and ended thanks to the peaceful efforts of three real Muslims who will be underappreciated for their efforts by people who are blind with hate.

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All your post is is an admission of several things I accused you of except you slapped the label of "nuh-uhhh!" on it.

I'm starting to think you got to my reference to the siege and then stopped reading when I left out information not pertinent to the discussion.

The Hanafi Siege was started by Muslim wannabees and ended thanks to the peaceful efforts of three real Muslims who will be underappreciated for their efforts by people who are blind with hate.

Just out of curiosity, how does one differentiate between a 'wannabee' Muslim and a real Muslim? Really comes down to interpretation of the written word and how it relates to the modern world.

And if a couple of guys ended the siege than good on them, however as I have neither the patience nor the drive to type out every part of the story I stuck to what was pertinent to the discussion at hand, if you read the entirety of the exchange I think you'd find that I was not exactly flying off the handle with contempt for Muslims. Any slight that you perceived is just that, a perception, you're jumping at shadow's of bigotry where there are none...well at least not in this instance.

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Madverts: If you find the statement un-fair then explain lucidly in your own inimitable way....

You're forcing the link because you hate the invasion of Iraq. It's the same when Sushi links every possible article or event to Republicans just because he hates Republicans and can say the words. That's why I'm surprised. I expect more from you.

Your position isn't based on fact. You have no idea why this guy left Iraq. You have no idea what the situation is for him and his family. Hell, maybe he was Shiite and Saddam killed his family for all you know. But you don't even take the time to consider that before making your point. That worries me.

Secondly, I've heard you talk about terrorists before. You basically call them "loonies." So do Iraqis now have a special tag attached to them when they try terrorism? Do you take inventory now? Loony, loony, loony, caused directly by the invasion of Iraq, loony, loony.... Some go around saying they were directed created by Islam and I see you fighting them tooth and nail. It seems like you've decided to give it a shot yourself.

Finally, I don't see you even attempting to reconcile the fact that he went after a Danish newspaper. The evidence for his misguided motivation is sitting right in front of you and trying to bully Iraq into the conversation just seems weird. You'd think that someone who was radicalized by an invasion would actually pick a target related to the invading country. These incidents are happening to frequently now in so many different places from so many different radicals that it's absurd that you'd pick one person and one event and ignore all of the other attacks.

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They were Nation of Islam which is about as related to Islam as Voodoo is to Christianity

That Islam can be so easily 'misunderstood' or 'misinterpreted' is one very good reason to fear and even 'hate' it, if you ask me. I am sick and tired of being hassled at the airport, having to remove my shoes, being forbidden to carry on liquids, etc. We have had almost a decade of blather from apologists for suicide bombers and head choppers. I'm sorry, but when you see countries as tolerant and cool as Holland and Denmark under siege from violent Mohammedans who arrived as asylum seekers there is only one conclusion - - they do not share the same values we do, and it is patently clear their so-called religion is why.

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Madverts:

" After the mess created in Iraq a backlash was inevitable "

How many times do people have to point to you that islamic terrism long precedes the Iraq invasion?

In the event the wannabe terrorists in Denmark were upset over a cartoon, and not about any invasion. Please stop bringin up this particular red herring.

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Why are there no updates about incidents like this and the ppl involved?

Reports on other sites detail how one of the plotters in this crime, guy named Awad, has been jailed before ,after being arrested in Pakistan with a suicide belt, 10 000 dollars and maps and details about the Danish Embassy in Islamabad.Before that he had been in Somalia. He was with a former Guantanamo detainee named Mehdi Ghezali who is reported to have studied under radical imams in London.

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Muslims hate free speech and support terror, yet again. And this is supposedly a "religion of peace"?? Hardly.

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Genkimark, don't you mean "most", not all Muslims hate free speech you know and I know quite a few.

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mikejacobs:

So how many of your free-speech advocating friends support the right of cartoonists to cartoon mohammed? That is free speech, you know. "Free speech except you must not offend us" is not.

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mikejacobs at 08:14 PM JST - 1st January Genkimark, don't you mean "most", not all Muslims hate free speech you know and I know quite a few.

Mikejacobs, I have quite a few muslim friends too, and a lot of them think the fanatics in their religion need to be locked up. I also knew one guy who seemed like a moderate muslim, decent and not at all radical... until in university he headed off on Haj (pilgrimage to Mecca) and didn't come back, and I was politely stone-walled about where he was until one of my muslim friends privately admitted that this guy had gone radical and was off with some hardline muslim group.

The simple fact is that despite having had muslim friends for about 20 years I'm not a muslim and they don't want to tell me stuff that could reflect badly on their faith. They also won't tell you the truth because their religion still has strong taboos about bringing disgrace on islam.

Also consider that there are christian radicals, but scanning the last year's newspapers I don't see even one of them engaged in terrorist, despite the fact that in the last year Islamic radicals have killed thousands of Christians.

The state needs to start enforcing the "accomplice" label on anyone who doesn't report terrorists. Freedom of religion is all very well, but it doesn't mean they're above the law, and right now that's how muslims are being treated.

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Since the cartoonist is a marked man anyways, he should just keep on turning out those cartoons of Mohammed.

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