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5 dead, suspect killed in Toronto area condo shooting

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I was told though that Canada was so safe that doors were unlocked and you could walk into a stranger's house unannounced to have dinner with them.

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How much you wanna bet the gun originated in the US, arsenal of the world.

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DudeDeuceToday  03:20 pm JST

*I was told though that Canada was so safe that doors were unlocked and *you could walk into a stranger's house unannounced to have dinner with them.

Oh yeah? Where did you hear this?

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Very unfortunate - well...there was a scene in Michael Moore movie where Michael walked into a house with cameras and the door was indeed unlocked - and indeed some of my relatives there never lock their doors

What leftist policies are you referring to? Would you call Doug Ford "leftist"?

The problem is of course - easy access to weapons from south of the border - one can legally certain types of weapons in Canada - but owning them is non-trivial - they must be secured in a locked metal cabinet bolted to the foundation of your house - if weapons are stolen from your home and used in a crime - you have some explaining to do.

My father had weapons in such a cabinet - would sometimes take a pistol out when we went out back (20 acres of wilderness surrounded by wilderness) - you sometimes saw deer - which means you may see something that eats deer - wolves

I have alot of friends in Texas - who hunt - are responsible gun owners

Of course where there are criminals bent on criminal intent - and weapons are available - the cost in terms of human life becomes terribly unfortunate

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I see the Canadians are responding in the sensible and logical way of looking to limit the availability and accessibility of guns though they have a major problem that they have a border with the USA.

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Americans who don’t know anything Canada but what they want to believe.

Toronto is a sprawling city of over 5 million with the suburbs.

Toronto has very high immigration.

Toronto has high gang population in certain parts of the city - gangs like in American cities.

So figure it out.

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Yes indeed, there are hundreds if not thousands of towns and cities around the world including Canada and the U.S . were people sleep with doors unlocked or no doors at all, surprised!? better not be, just drive around in Japan's country side and you can walk to a home with doors wide open all day when nature allows and can meet and speak to people like most civilized people do.

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LagunaToday 04:03 pm JST

How much you wanna bet the gun originated in the US, arsenal of the world.

I knew it wouldn't take very long for someone to blame the U.S. Well, even if you are correct, I'm willing to bet America had nothing to do with the gunman making a conscious decision to buy the bullets and pull the trigger.

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Toronto has high gang population in certain parts of the city - gangs like in American cities.

So can I waltz into one of their unlocked trap houses and expect them to whip me up a batch of maple cookies as a guest?

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Sadly the gun violence is on the increase not just Toronto 4 days ago Montreal a few days before that and a week before that.

And everyone knows where the guns are coming from the USA and what population group are usually involved that group is less than 3% of the country's population but account for 50% of all homicides but it is everyone else's fault because the other 97+% of the population somehow has to pay special attention to their community.

I don't get it Asians including Indians (India) make up 15% of the population and barely registere on the crime rate graduate university at higher rates even those in seriously low income.

No idea what this one was about but the last ones were the 3% gangs in Toronto and Montreal.

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Mocheake

Today 08:54 pm JST

Sorry but If Americans had half a brain and closed batch buying loopholes at gun shows and private sales USA gangs wouldn't get gun and send some up to their gang members in Canada.

You can try using backwards logic but real logic is if criminals cannot get guns then no problem but "law abiding citizen" in the USA sell guns privately without checking.

So yes it is the USA and as the largest arms dealer in the world supplying 39% of the weapons used in war and crimes the USA is as guilty as the drug cartels selling heroin and cocaine.

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Dollars to doughnuts it was drug related.

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Most Americans condos have limited access and armed security

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Well perhaps if most illegal guns didn't come from the USA as " legal" guns

How is that America’s fault? Why is it the responsibility of the US to enforce Canada’s gun laws? If Canada wants strict gun enforcement then fine, that’s their right but it’s not the responsibility of the US to change their laws to adhere to Canada’s. Also the fact that you’re saying “illegal guns will always come into the country” pretty much destroys any argument for gun control in the first place as you’re admitting there will always be illegal guns regardless of what the government does.

39% of the world's weapons people wouldn't car when a story involves mass shootings.

What does this have to do with a crazy guy shooting up an apartment in Canada? Are you inferring the US government directly sold him the weapons? The majority of American arms deals are between governments, not individuals. It seems like you’re jumping to ridiculous logical conclusions to justify your dislike of the US.

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Well perhaps if most illegal guns didn't come from the USA as " legal" guns, perhaps if the "land of the free" the " democracy" wasn't the world's number one merchant of death by supplying 39% of the world's weapons people wouldn't car when a story involves mass shootings.

You also have zero proof that the gun used came from the US

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You also have zero proof that the gun used came from the US

Except that, the odds of it coming from anywhere other than the US are so low, that it's an extremely safe bet to know that it came from the US.

Of course, American gun freaks will try to pretend that we should give that 0.0000000% chance of it being from somewhere else as being credible, and even odds. But those people aren't what we would call "blessed with intelligence".

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You can argue about where the guns come from all you want. Main thing is you’re doing that to avoid talking about who’s using them. The vast majority of Canadians are not interested in having guns.

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This person who did that was in his 70's with an apparent vendetta against the condominium association and felt that an electrical room under his condot was improperly built and that the electric signals from it caused him harm, etc.

His social postings have many religious references and it would appear he suffered from mental illness over an extended period of time.

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So you’re making claims with literally no evidence?

No, I made no claims.

You do know that prior to October this year handgun sales were legal in Canada, right?

Read other news, it wasn't a handgun.

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How is that America’s fault? Why is it the responsibility of the US to enforce Canada’s gun laws?

Ok so let's use the same logic on other problems.

Why is it the drug cartels fault for America's drug problem.

It isn't up to the cartels to enforce USA laws on drug use.?

But America actively goes after these guys outside the USA.

The USA arrested a Russian arms dealer in Thailand had him sent to the USA for trial and prison.

Canada Canada now do that the the USA guns/weapons dealers that are responsible for these guns?

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private sales USA gangs wouldn't get gun and send some up to their gang members in Canada.

> You’re making up the fact that this gun came from the USA. I’m directly quoting you so don’t try to deny it. Based on your spelling English clearly isn’t your first language but try to keep up.

Nope that is what both the RCMP and FBI say as to where the guns being used in crimes in Canada are coming from.

The probability of the guns coming from the USA is near 100%.

The USA is responsible for more guns in the world than possible legal owners.

The USA is like a legal drug dealer selling death around the world.

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Dollars to doughnuts it was drug related.

It was not.

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Dollars to doughnuts it was drug related.

Is that your dog whistle for "it was them ethnic people"?

Because it was a 70+ year old angry white man.

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