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Arctic could face another record hot year

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The warming of the earth goes beyond our powers, we can't stop it. All we can do is buckle up and prepare for the worst. I expect massive rainfall and floods in the near future.

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The earth is a living entity and we have no effects on it except plastic pollution.

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The warming of the earth goes beyond our powers, we can't stop it.

yes its could be possibly too late, but it takes a moron to not believe that humans have played a major part in the dramatic climate changes we see today.

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but it takes a moron to not believe that humans have played a major part in the dramatic climate changes we see today.

While it may be moronic to think it's all a Chinese hoax, it takes a great deal of intelligence and sifting of data to understand how big a part human activity plays in climate change. We still don't have clear models of the effect of human activity on climate. So even if we manage to reduce CO2 levels in the atmosphere, we should also consider the possibility that temperatures will continue to rise.

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Humans are playing a minor role on climate, if any. But we are having a major effect on pollution; that is what we should focus on.

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shonanbbToday 06:06 pm JST

The earth is a living entity and we have no effects on it except plastic pollution.

....and there you have it everyone. This is why your children's children will be the first generation living in huddled masses underground subsisting on each others recycled bodily waste on a barren and desolate rock devoid of all other life.

They will be so grateful to us.

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Beautiful photograph. Must be hard to judge the thickness of the ice under that water.

On a personal level I have been trying not to accept disposable plastic shopping bags, to take cloth bags each time I go shopping, and to refuse plastic straws when I can remember. The plastics industry must be pumping out so much unpleasant stuff into the environment. I do not want to encourage them. It is so hard to break a lifetime of habits, though.

It's strange how we the little people have to suffer the pangs of our consciences while large-scale industry gets a semi-free pass to pollute the planet.

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That is an amazing picture accompanying the article. I fear my children are going to see some pretty horrible changes in the climate.

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that's really nice photo i love it.

also tbh no one ever cares about climate change or temperature especially governments all around the world they just keep destroying everything to build more cities and factories, which is really bad and only small percentage of people who live on earth that try their best to save it which hardly working.

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The IPCC projections mentioned seem to already be out of date.

Several recent model-based studies, expert assessments and national assessments suggest an upper bound for 21st century global mean sea level rise in the range of 1.5–2.5 m.

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We had a good run, guys. A hundred billion galaxies, hundreds of billions of stars per galaxy, and possibly an infinite number of universes. And here, a speck in a blink. That's us, lost in space.

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It's strange how we the little people have to suffer the pangs of our consciences while large-scale industry gets a semi-free pass to pollute the planet.

Hear hear

Its a losing battle. What’s gonna happen when China, India, and so on, break into the larger middle class consumer world?

Start small. Boycott Meiji for their switching to plastic for their cream containers instead of cartons like everyone else, or their plastic twist tops for milk.

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yes its could be possibly too late, but it takes a moron to not believe that humans have played a major part in the dramatic climate changes we see today.

Don't forget the morons that keep screaming as if there's a switch on the wall that people are just refusing to flip;and only if they would flip it all this would stop instantly. Humans had a role, but guess who has a role in trying to combat it? Humans! Plastics are banned, we recycle, cars have emissions regulations--hybrids exist, wind turbines are up, people are making better shopping choices, home owners get tax breaks for using things like solar energy, we're implored to tirn the water off when we brush our teeth. What else do you suggest?

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More scaremongering. Just last week scientists said ice shelfs were getting bigger!

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Don't worry about it. A man in a bad suit with his tie down to his balls and a face full of make up told me it was OK, and he knows all the best people so just fugeddaboudit, OK?

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What else do you suggest?

oh i dont know maybe stop buring millions of tonnes of fossil fuels each year, here a short video of just how much we burn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmR8zSE8k1I

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wtfjapan:

oh i dont know maybe stop buring millions of tonnes of fossil fuels each year, here a short video of just how much we burn

...and then what? Go back to the stone age? Try to live a like an amazon tribesman in Tokyo, for a couple of days, and then write your message again. (On a clay tablet, perhaps.)

Fact is: There is about 1300 bb proven oil reserves in the world, give or take a few. Every year, the world consumes about 30 bb of that, again give or take a few. And no matter what fancy windmill dreams you have, the world WILL continue consuming that. At an increasing place too, depending on how fast China, India, and Africa industrialize.

Now I am all for subsidizing research into new energy sources. 4th generation nuclear, fusion, cold fusion, give it all a chance. But claiming that politicians can simply stop our dependence on fossils by legislation is kindergarten level thinking.

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One day the world is just going to shake us off like so many gnats... unless we can find some other planets to ruin first.

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And the forecasts are alarming.

Just to put things in perspective a little. The following excerpt from an AP story was published in the Washington Post. Does it sound familiar?

“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway.

“Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

“Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic...

The thing is, this article was published in November 1922. The original can be seen here ...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-provide-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean-getting-warm-seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt/

There other similar stories online. For example, the ice was so thin in 1958 and 1959 that a submarine, the USS Skate, broke through at the north pole in both summer and winter.

“the Skate found open water both in the summer and following winter. We surfaced near the North Pole in the winter through thin ice less than 2 feet thick. The ice moves from Alaska to Iceland and the wind and tides causes open water as the ice breaks up. The Ice at the polar ice cap is an average of 6-8 feet thick, but with the wind and tides the ice will crack and open into large polynyas (areas of open water), these areas will refreeze over with thin ice.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/

The above url shows screencaps taken from the newsreel. There's not that much ice.

The melting and freezing is cyclical and has been going on for millennia. Accurate records of the Arctic's ice cover have only been kept since 1979 so when the cover is low, like in 2012, the media goes into a frenzy.

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Meanwhile, National Park Service is removing Obama-era signs that the Glaciers in Glacier National park would be gone by 2020. Apparently, they are not. Maybe they can move the signs to Greenland now?

It is actually funny reading a summary of all the false predictions and wrong computer models. Won´t find that mentioned on CNN, but there are contrarian websites which collect those.

I think the "taxation to save the planet" activists might want to learn a lesson from Harold Camping, who ended up with egg on his face TWICE after predicting the end of the world for 94 and 95. Should have been sensible and put the date a few more years out, to spare himself the reality check and ridicule...

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