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© Thomson Reuters 2018.Under fire, Bannon backs off explosive comments about Trump's son
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Tommy Jones
Bannon cowering in the corner with his tail between his legs. Too funny. We now know who wears the pants in that relationship.
Tommy Jones
Trump is hillarious. Draining the swamp by no longer campaigning for those challenging the establishment.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-washes-hands-insurgency-against-gop-incumbents-073925555--politics.html
Texas A&M Aggie
The bloom is off the rose of the globalists' latest hero (Bannon).
In other news, today is Day #353 of the Trump Administration. . . .
CrazyJoe
Expressing regret is not a denial; in fact it is an admission.
FullM3taL
He is backtracking because the Mercers have withdrawn support for him and are talking about throwing him off Breitbart. If Bannon loses Breitbart and his brigade of alt-right trolls, he loses everything.
bass4funk
Well, at least the man apologized, but he seriously damaged himself, Bannon is not a stupid man, maybe a bit more explosive self centered and in your face perhaps, but attacking the Presidents kids and making questionable accusations, he should have known the President would come at him full force.
CrazyJoe
Bannon: I committed a political gaffe.
I told the truth.
I'll stop now.
Tommy Jones
Nowhere in the article does it state Bannon apologized.
Laguna
Note that he didn't address the issue: was the actions of Trump Jr. traitorous?
But, frankly, what Bannon thinks matters zero. We'll see what the courts say.
Jimizo
Apparently, Trump is very popular among Russians. I think the Vietnamese like him too.
Good work, Steve.
bass4funk
More like, my ego, my ego, my ego, oops, hey....where did all my friends go?
It was backtracking and it wasn't double downing, he backed off, so that is good of an apology as any.
Tommy Jones
It was not an apology, nor was it a denial. Words have meanings.
Tommy Jones
bass4funk
Not entirely, but backing off and issuing a statement that he was wrong, no matter how you look at it, it was contrite, so depending on the injured party, they can take it as an apology if they so choose.
I'm not spinning, not my style, but I do understand the left wants to run on something, this basically will blow over in a month or two. Bannon is backing off, if he didn't mean it or if he really wanted to start a fight with Trump, he would never have issued that statement, pure and simple.
TorafusuTorasan
Popcorn is cooling--is the cracking of egglike Don Jr. on national TV beginning soon? Even the Trump backers will be watching that through their fingers.
Tommy Jones
And obfuscating.
https://japantoday.com/category/world/update-1-trump-book-author-says-his-revelations-will-bring-down-u.s.-president
Tommy Jones
He didn't say anything about being incorrect. Spin, spin, spin. ROFL!
katsu78
Wow, you guys really will just say anything, won't you.
"Globalists" aren't real. They don't exist. It's a dog-whistle invented by the alt-right. That said, the people you mean to slur with the term never thought Bannon was a hero of any kind. Many of us enjoy the chaos he has created in the White House, but he remains a horrible person, probably the most open bigot in a Trump Administration that is stuffed to the gills with bigots.
For people like me, what's happened is the best of all possible outcomes - his massive ego led to him damaging the Trump White House and the White House's response has been so brutal that he may lose his job at Breitbart. My biggest fear was that in attacking the Trumps Bannon would have gained some broad credibility outside of his fanatic white-supremacist base. I am delighted to see that didn't happen.
So it's not even a year in and suffering bigger scandals, higher turnover, worse performance, greater public disapproval, and a lower likelihood of making it to the end of its first term than any other modern presidency. That's really quite impressive, in its way. One would normally assume you have to work at it to fail that hard, that fast.
katsu78
It says a lot about how you think that you would claim not repeating a lie is the same thing as apologizing for a lie.
Not that anyone but the ardent Tumpists here even think this was a lie...
goldorak
Either met with them or knew about the meeting. Only the most naïve & delusional still think DT was unaware of his son's meeting with the Russians.
lostrune2
So even strongman Bannon is now known to chicken out
Remember at this time last year, how some people were celebrating how Bannon will be a strong influence on the Trump presidency
Laguna
As a waiter in college, I noticed a couple in a closes-off section helping themselves to some beer and didn't immediately notify management - for which I ended up a wisp away from dismissal. Trump Jr. (and, according to Bannon, Trump himself) were aware of Russia's hacking of several Democratic databases, yet they notified nobody - that is, until months later, Trump urged Russia to release Clinton's mails.
If that isn't called treason, nothing can be.
starpunk
The whole trump cartel / administration is corrupt and treasonous.
bass4funk
Right back at you, homie.
Funny, when liberals hear accusations about certain acts pertaining to liberals, the accusations and the meaning behind it falls under a lot of conjecture, however, if the accuser is a conservative then the allegations and the words behind them have precise contextual meaning.
Liberals are the group of fun and party. Stay away from California and please don’t breath the air.
Hey, the man backed off, so that’s close enough to an admission that we can hope for from Bannon.
He did?? What do you know that we or Mueller doesn’t? Please pass that on to him.
cleo
Rather, it reflected the depth of his infantilism.
translation - Trump Jr. and Kushner did meet the Russians in an effort to dig up dirt about Clinton, but they were too stupid/naive to realise what they were doing was treasonous and unpatriotic.
And these are the people advising the president.
ulysses
In a fight between bad and evil, do we really care who wins?
bass4funk
The Clinton’s and the last administration did far worse. The point is, if you talk about treason in the true sense or the word, then you have to go way back to the mid 90’s, truth be told.
TorafusuTorasan
Treason in a legal sense means helping the enemy in wartime. Which mid-90s war was this last true case of treason, or is this the usual dubious historical revisionism?
Laguna
Disagree with that definition. The benefice does not necessarily have to be an "enemy" (spilling secrets to Great Britain would still count), and it does not need to occur during war.
The point is purpose: That one has knowingly and purposely committed an act putting one's personal interests or those of a foreign power above those of one's country and therefore causing it to suffer harm.
Sounds appropriate here.
TorafusuTorasan
Define it however, but Americans these days are not charged with treason besides the odd double agent spies, of which I can't recall any in recent years. Bannon may have used the word because it had pleasing echoes of the Roy Cohn/ Joseph McCarthy era, the last large scale attempt to ferret out and punish allegedly 'treasonous' people.
cleo
Don't know or care if they did. Why insist on looking back, when you have a humdinger of a fiasco going on right before your eyes?
The person in the White House with his pudgy little finger on The Button, capable of sending us all into WW3, is an infantile moron suffering from extreme narcism, surrounded by Yes Men and sycophants, and being advised by amateurs with no idea what they are doing.
Sort that out first, then come and whine about what's over and done with.
Laguna
True. But underlying motives remain an important factor when prosecuting statute crimes.
Dre Hund
Bannon apologizing actually strengthened the book's legitimacy. Like a Catch 22. Something just got well played. Front Line is going to do a piece on Trumps Roy Cohn. Check it out. Quite the checkered past. But also an insight. Well, Don now has Don McGahn as his legal muscle. You may want to read what the Ex-Chief of Ethics, Walter Schaub, has to say about this man. http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/don-mcgahn-walter-shaub-cnntv/index.html
SuperLib
What a dysfunctional relationship.
Davers
What else could Bannon do? The lemming right isn't going to support him over Trump, and the left is never going to bring him into the fold. He only had one avenue, and that was to pucker up and say hi to the Trump Tush.
bass4funk
I think it does matter in the bigger picture, you can’t say one behavior is bad while overlooking another behavior that was very atrocious as well as offensive to a lot of people and the politicians shrugged their shoulders and said “oh, well” and now the same politicians from the party that is now not in power are losing their minds over things they did that was far worse.
Ok, I get it, that’s how you personally feel. I don’t and there are millions that don’t. The same disdain you have for the man is equally to the disdain I had towards the last President as weak as he was and I felt for awhile we might be invaded or have another attack somewhere in the future because of his inability to be a strong leader as weak as he was, and yet, we are still here, so basically, putting all the rhetoric Trump does, you’ll be fine and with a General like Mattis at Trump’s side, I feel a whole lot safer. The other day a reporter asked Mattis what concerns do you have about the world and our enemies and he replied, “I never have concerns, I give other people concerns” pow! That’s what I’m talking about! Diplomacy ain’t **** if you can’t back it up with military force.
katsu78
The difference being that the disdain we have for Trump is for specific things he said or did, whereas the disdain you have for Obama is made-up stuff you just attached to the nation's first black president for... reasons.
smithinjapan
Texas A&: "The bloom is off the rose of the globalists' latest hero (Bannon)."
Wasn't us trying to help Bannon 'drain his own swamp', amigo. Heck, bass4funk is STILL defending the man. So, maybe you ought to keep the "hero" comments for people like him and those who worshipped him until a very short time ago (including you and the President himself).
bass4funk: "I think it does matter in the bigger picture, you can’t say one behavior is bad while overlooking another behavior that was very atrocious as well as offensive to a lot of people..."
Unless it's Trump saying he can walk up and grab a woman by the p...y, right? Then it was "a long time ago", and "just locker room talk", etc. Or when it's Roy Moore, as you defended him, and so many others did, talking about how it was "years ago", etc.
smithinjapan
bass4funk: "I never defended him because he’s innocent."
If you never defended him because he's innocent, what did you defend him for? Also, saying "he's innocent" is defending him, let alone denying the reality of the situation, which is that he himself has admitted to sexually assaulting women. You canNOT deny that. Heck, the "stable genius" can't even tell the difference between the words "consensual" and "consequential", which is no surprise given he is guilty of grabbing women without consent.
"Why you guys always see things for what YOU WANT TO and NOT as they are?"
Says the guy who LITERALLY supports "alternative facts", a phrase you guys coined because you lie so much and can't accept it when you get caught, so you say "it's a fact.... just my own, personal, alternative fact!"
"From the top, one more time, I just believed that every person has the absolute right to the presumption of innocence before hurling insults and accusations at the man."
Except you believe everything he and others have hurled at Hillary, Obama, and more. Don't you still think Obama is from Kenya? You probably believe in the "deep state", and maybe even that Ellen is part? It's always different when the shoe's on the other foot... and you personally have been switching feet for so long you don't even recognize when you're speaking to the mirror.
Laguna
Just a note, in case anyone hasn't noticed: The Clintons are a spent force in the Democratic Party, as is Obama (though his daughters might prove powerful, but that'd be years away). To be certain, there will be no Clintons and no Obamas for the foreseeable future. Zero. So any reference to them is hot air, a complete waste of time, a red herring, or, at worst, a sign of mitigated intelligence.
Let's dwell in the present, shall we?
Madverts
Heh. Oprah anyone ?
The insane Republican party will never get over Trump. This year in November we'll see the foundation of his dismal, if Mueller doesn't do it first.
Slimy Ted Cruz is sure to mount a challenge on the insane side. The Dems just need a candidate who isn't Hillary Clinton.
bass4funk
Ok, how an what will the Democrats run on? Impeach Trump? Ok, then what?
Who? Like Keith Ellison, Liz Warren? Bring it on.
Tommy Jones
Then what? How about reclaiming the stature on the world stage that Trump has, and continues to cede to Russia and China? Healing the bigoted riffs Trump and his base have created. Protecting the masses from the wealthy, etc.
Either one of those highly intelligent/educated individuals is far better than semiliterate, I like pictures, conceited, dotard Trump.
That said, it is painfully obvious that cons prefer those that speak in simple, black and white terms so they can understand.
browny1
Bassfunk the issue is Trump and the current fiasco playing out before our eyes day in and day out.
Obama et al historical dubes are not really reelevant at the mo - just a diversion.
Cleo's piece is right on.
Infantile - as in his inability to accept criticism, argue / debate his points and his purile put downs of anything he disagrees with. He's NEVER fake, but everyone else is. Says it all really.
Yes - it's sure is fun to see / hear the yeah stick it to them maverick, but most people expect more out of the most powerful man in the world.
It's not his reality tv show now - although he apparently thinks it is - because the past 30 years of pre-presidential bullying & stand-overing has't changed an iota.
I'm not a jonny-come-lately to the Trump game. I thought he was a sleaze-bag 15 years ago. Nothing in the past 12 months has made me change my mind.
lostrune2
Still, Bannon didn't say he was misquoted, nor did he take back all the other things he said in the book
So if Bannon/Breitbart is believable, then the book must be true
If not, then Bannon/Breitbart has been fake news
bass4funk
The way it looks now, I seriously doubt it. Looks like Dems will have another heavy heart to carry.
Impossible, liberals are too cowardly for that. Ok, next.
Oh, but protecting the globalists are ok with you? Smh.
I don’t agree with you on anything, but on this, I pray to God that they run, ohhhh, please!!!! ROFL Trump beating them would be over so quickly. I want the Dems to go as left as possible and then ultimately blow their chances and lose even more seats.