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I bet both of them know their history well enough to be sure WWII didn't end in 1917.

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 coronavirus pandemic that has killed 165,000 Americans, while yielding Depression-level unemployment and World War II-level national deficits.

Under Trump's watch the US continues sinking. Many of Trump's fellow 'elite' are getting richer, while dozens of millions of Americans struggle to make house and car payments and millions stand in food lines. The US needs leaders who won't just serve the 'elite'.

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Biden, a 77-year-old white man, embraced the significance of naming the first Black woman to a major party's presidential ticket, "

This statement alone keeps racial division ongoing. The problem is mainstream media who continually focuses on race. In better taste would have been leaving skin color out there is no need to add that into as people can see for themselves. Now with this said I am not a supporter of either candidate. None seem to appeal to any improvements nor have proven any towards conservative views in the best interest of the United States. My vote would be to continue supporting the current administration. The Democrats simply have left a bad taste in my mouth using bigotry ake the criminal Floyd against police, supporting an acknowledged Marxist group BLM and Antifa a known group with ever growing terroristic agendas. The party continues to push "socialism" and calls IWA "freedom of speech" a "pesky thing per D Ms Hirono (Ha). The list just goes on. These issues are serious to the democracy of the US and its allies. It would have been great if they could just let go the loss and focus on real issues vs all the drama.

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I bet both of them know their history well enough to be sure WWII didn't end in 1917.

I bet neither of them understand the threat China poses to us.

She has broadly endorsed the Green New Deal

That disqualifies her right there. Plus, OMG, she is such a liar. Tupac for sure my rear end.

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Harris is literally the worst choice among all the non-white women Biden had limited his VP choices to. Stacey Abrams would be better.

By the way isn't discriminating against men and white people wrong? And by so limiting his VP choices isn't Biden doing a disservice to the American people?

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 Kellyanne Conway on Wednesday insisted Harris is “very much part of the radical left” 

Only in the fevered nightmares of the American right is Kamala a "leftist". Coming from an unprivileged background and from her childhood experiences she may have grown up with a chip on her shoulder, but she has long been a part of the political establishment enjoying all its perks and privileges and has by now definitely developed a taste for power which will stand her in good stead to carry out her new responsibilities as president. Only then will we see emerge the real Ms Harris: a woman president of the people, or a corrupt embodiment of entitlement, a power-hungry, vengeful avatar of Hilary Clinton, a radical leftist, not.

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rgcivilian1Today  07:01 am JST

Biden, a 77-year-old white man, embraced the significance of naming the first Black woman to a major party's presidential ticket, "

This statement alone keeps racial division ongoing

First of all, Kamala's dad is Jamaican (black) and her mom is India (non-white Caucasian).

Second, she is the third VP female candidate and the first non-white one.

Third, what difference does her etnicity make? She has a political track record and credentials, unlike Trump.

Fourth, Joe Biden has 8 years cred as VP himself. What does that say?

Fifth, Joe and Kamala have credentials, experience and aptitude. They know what so many problems are and they act like they're going to try to remedy it and not just think of themselves and themselves only.

Sixth, Trump's ugly, shameful and disgraceful track record speaks for itself.

Seventh, Trump doesn't know how to act like a mature human being and Joe and Kamala do.

And because of that, I don't care what Kamala is or may be classified as being. The question that matters is: Can she deliver and do the job? She looks that way to me. Congratulations, Kamala Harris.

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And by so limiting his VP choices isn't Biden doing a disservice to the American people?

Wouldn't it be nice to think there could possibly be such a thing as 'the American people', a singular entity, a like-minded unity. Americans have never been a singular people.

I grew up in a small town that was factionalized along every line possible, including wealth, religion and ethnicity. Unfortunately power and wealth were in the hands of a fraction of the population who looked out for their interests above all the other's. They had the power to deny those NOT from their group access to power and opportunities and the power to ensure those from their group could continue having privileges the 'others' were denied.

Why is it so hard for the far right to accept that the 100,000,000 Americans who are people of color should also have greater roles in determining which direction the country goes. They are Americans too. What's good for them is also good for the country.

Time to stop Trump and the R's ongoing efforts to keep power and wealth in the hands of the 'elite', mostly made up of a tiny fraction of the 'American people'.

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White House adviser Kellyanne Conway on Wednesday insisted Harris is “very much part of the radical left”

An utterly absurd claim. I imagine that the White House propaganda machine works on the basis that if you repeat a lie often enough someone will believe it.

She's arguably not even on the left at all. Life most Democrats, she could happily fit in European centre right parties.

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She's arguably not even on the left at all. Life most Democrats, she could happily fit in European centre right parties.

The extreme right has gone so far right that due to a lack of perspective, the center appears far left to them.

Kamala is right of me, and I’m left of center.

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Biden’s campaign seemed prepared for the counteroffensive, noting that just weeks ago, Trump said Harris would be a “fine choice.” 

trump doesn’t remember what he said a few minutes ago, so a few weeks is understandable.

The speed and intensity of his attacks on Kamala shows how scared he is.

Time for more golfing!!!!!

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I am so energized again, we democrats are coming together to get rid of trumppp. Biden and Harris also know the danger China poses which makes me and my friends even more riled up for a new president, We know Trump would give China a pass if they pay off his administration. Biden 2020!!

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A Biden and Kamala win is a major lost for Taiwan and the rest of the free world.

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A Biden and Kamala win

The global far right's social media tactic: drive-by flame throwing instead of substantive discussion. Expect even greater use of memes instead of reasoned responses.

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I bet both of them know their history well enough to be sure WWII didn't end in 1917

Hope so...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8072813/Protesters-storm-stage-Bidens-Super-Tuesday-speech-dragged-away-WIFE.html

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U_S_reamer, Senator Harris was a perfect 100 in her liberal voting record in 2017 and 2018 (before missing votes during her campaign in 2019) by Americans for Democratic Action - a liberal action group.

LIke her or don't, but she clearly votes "leftist", regardless of upbringing or establishment ties.

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I enjoyed watching Kamala getting 'destroyed' by Tulsi Gabbard a few months ago in the debates Pretty much ended her run for President. Clearly found a way back now though, huh?

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Erik Morales, Mr. Biden has been in a very powerful position in American politics for decades, can you point me to anything he has done or proposed in those decades that would indicate he understands or cares about China's dangers? By the way, he is in good company as no other political figure in America has done anything either until recently.

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@P Townsend: you want facts sure you got it there not secret: Global far right indeed, not even close. Stay with the real facts buddy. These 2 are deeply in bed heavily invested via the Clinton Foundation in China. That again is straight and openly available facts. But you guys just can't handle the truth. No conspiracy no far left, just plain old fashioned research to find the truth. So you see, per the below FACTS a win for Biden and Kamala is a NO WIN for the rest of free democracy.

China Trains to Shoot Down Planes as U.S. Aircraft Carrier 'Circling Near Taiwan'

Chinese forces have conducted anti-aircraft drills in the country's southeast overlooking Taiwan as a U.S. aircraft carrier sails nearby the self-ruling island that is increasingly becoming central to the feud between Washington and Beijing.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian told reporters at a daily news briefing Wednesday that Beijing remains opposed to any official U.S.-Taiwan ties. Zhao said: "People who play with fire will burn themselves," Beijing Daily reported, with Reuters and China's official state-run Xinhua news publishing similar translations.

Satellite photos on India Himalia border appear to show China massing troops and equipment on its mountainous border with India following a violent clash last month – despite promises to de escalate the conflict.

A Chinese survey ship has been conducting activities in Japan’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ) near Okinotorishima for more than a week, the Japan Coast Guard has said, the longest time spent in the waters without permission in a decade.
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Well there you have it, Biden's handlers just gave Trump/Pence another 4 more years!

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First of all, Kamala's dad is Jamaican (black) and her mom is India (non-white Caucasian). 

Second, she is the third VP female candidate and the first non-white one.

*Third, what difference does her etnicity make? She has a political track record and credentials,unlike Trump.*

The media is making a bigger fuss over her race, conservatives don’t care, but the media cares more talking as if conservatives care. It’s quite astonishing actually. The only thing conservatives care about his her past record which wasn’t good overall for thousands of black men. But yes, her track record.....

Fourth, Joe Biden has 8 years cred as VP himself. What does that say?

Oh, where to begin on that one, the litany list is long...

*Fifth, Joe and Kamala have credentials, experience and aptitude. *

Her “track record as a “pragmatic moderate” includes supporting late-term abortion, co-sponsoring both Medicare 4 All and the Green New Deal, &calling for repeals of tax cuts. She even tried two impose a religious litmus test on Catholic judicial nominees.”

Sixth, Trump's ugly, shameful and disgraceful track record speaks for itself.

Having the strongest economy up until this pandemic, which is slowly bouncing back, the country seemed to love less regulations, especially small businesses which were pretty much nonexistent the previous 8 years.

Seventh, Trump doesn't know how to act like a mature human being and Joe and Kamala do. 

You can act anyway you want, but that doesn’t bring solutions to anything. I think breaking the system and being bombastic is more effective than smiling and smiling.

And because of that, I don't care what Kamala is or may be classified as being.

A lot of people will. A lot will.

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Old and young, man and woman, white and black. If they win, it'll be another historic milestone.

Trump's gotta be nervous.

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This fluffy article basically attempts to take everything wrong with Kamala Harris and dispute it. Not that it dindt have type of dispute, because it did.

Republicans: She endorsed the Green New Deal.

Well. yeah she endorsed the Green New Deal, but it isnt really something that she cares about tooooo much. So she kinda didnt endorse it 100%....so the Republican statement is mostly false.

Same treatment for criminal justice. single payer, her political beginnings under Willie Brown. Yeah its true, but.....(deflect).

She has broadly endorsed the Green New Deal, progressives’ most ambitious set of proposals to combat the climate crisis, but she didn’t make that an anchor of her presidential bid.

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Not that it didnt happen type of dispute, because it did.

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I enjoyed watching Kamala getting 'destroyed' by Tulsi Gabbard a few months ago in the debates

I still think Gabbard was the best choice. But Harris will do fine.

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Kamala seemed so upset at Joe during the debates, with that racial segregation history and all. Btw, if you dont know who Strom Thurmond was, check him and Biden's relationship out. Funny how she would even consider accepting such an offer to be his VP.

But alas, if Biden becomes president, he will not be running the show. Biden and Kamala will do exactly as they are told by their DNC/Wallstreet bosses.

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Why is it so hard for the far right to accept that the 100,000,000 Americans who are people of color should also have greater roles in determining which direction the country goes.

They don’t, that’s a false debunked and false narrative the msm continue to perpetuate, however, it’s worth pointing out that for all the left wants to use the race card for every argument to deflect from any rational debate they refuse to engage in, the real question should be an honest one and that’s is, what have the Democrats done or what policies made minority communities better, particularly the black community for over 60 years. Liberals never seem to want to answer these questions at length.

They are Americans too. What's good for them is also good for the country. 

Of course, that goes without saying.

Time to stop Trump and the R's ongoing efforts to keep power and wealth in the hands of the 'elite', mostly made up of a tiny fraction of the 'American people'.

As if Biden would stop it, quite the opposite, the Washington swamp is happier than ever now.

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"This statement alone keeps racial division ongoing. The problem is mainstream media who continually focuses on race. In better taste would have been leaving skin color out there is no need to add that into as people can see for themselves"

Still can't handle successful people who aren't white.

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Biden, a 77-year-old white man, embraced the significance of naming the first Black woman to a major party's presidential ticket..

Now how does Indian American + Jamaican American = Black American ? This identity race card will not work for her, she has no appeal among her ethnic lineage.

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starpunk

First of all, Kamala's dad is Jamaican (black) and her mom is India (non-white Caucasian).

What is a "non-white Caucasian"? Can you elaborate on your race classification system?

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Now how does Indian American + Jamaican American = Black American ? This identity race card will not work for her, she has no appeal among her ethnic lineage.

Not quite sure, but give the msm time, they’ll think of something for sure.

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"A Chinese survey ship has been conducting activities in Japan’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ) near Okinotorishima for more than a week, the Japan Coast Guard has said, the longest time spent in the waters without permission in a decade."

The US operates, cough cough, "research ships" inside China's legitimate EEZ as a matter of routine, escorted by a Navy destroyer in case the Chinese want to get into a pushing and shoving match as they have in the past before a Navy escort became routine. Any nation can navigate through an EEZ. It is still international waters. Bottom mapping and understanding temperature and salinity layers of the waters (useful for submarine warfare) are not the same as exploring for minerals, kelp or fishing which could be illegal in an EEZ.

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Wow, A frail old man and a Narcissistict elitist Senator that think they know how to lead the U.S. into the future.

The Joke is on all the people that will buy into all the BS they will be shoving down the American peoples throats. It is Shameful what the LEFT has done to NYC.......

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They’ll nonetheless have to paper over differences exposed during the primary campaign, from Harris’ initial support for a single-payer health insurance system and the Green New Deal to her deeply personal debate-stage broadside against Biden over his opposition to federally mandated busing to integrate public schools in the 1970s.

Sen. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden spar over record on race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUutymbDLI0

Whether or not the US electorate believe Sen. Kamala Harris is a leftist radical progressive. Both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have radical different/opposing, political agendas  

Donald Trump campaign, especially Donald Trumps legion of political/media advisers will/have wasted little time driving a social media wedge to expose these differences.

Tulsi Gabbard rips Kamala Harris' record on criminal prosecutions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4fjA0K2EeE

Team Trump will hammer down, sowing the seeds of doubt, fanning the flames of the perceived existential threat Harris/Biden government spending and tax policies represent to the livelihoods to ordinary hardworking middle-income families.

Drive the message home, convince this demographic and Biden/Harris trolley could well begin to wobble. There is also a question of unity within the democrat party

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If Biden was going to pick someone who’s worth anything in the Democrat party it should have been Tulsi Gabbard, would have definitely had a better chance, at least the woman is authentic, a woman and a minority as well which Dems seem afraid of, she’s just not “black.”

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Not that it matters and while it is probably off topic. People from India are classified as Asians, specifically South Asian. Wikipedia "Asian people" if you are ok with Wikipedia as a source.

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starpunk

First of all, Kamala's dad is Jamaican (black) and her mom is India (non-white Caucasian).

What is a "non-white Caucasian"? Can you elaborate on your race classification system?

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"China Trains to Shoot Down Planes as U.S. Aircraft Carrier 'Circling Near Taiwan"

The US Navy trains hard to sink the PLAN if it ever comes to that, including defending Taiwan from a Chinese invasion. Is this supposed to be news?

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I bet both of them know their history well enough to be sure WWII didn't end in 1917.

Hmm, well considering she said she was smoking pot in college in 1986 listening to 2Pac and Snoop Dogg. Both didn't come out til the 90s. Then she prosecuted many people for smoking weed but we will save that topic for another time as you downvote me without comment.

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Trump is deemed clinical insane, by his niece, who has witnessed his insanity in person, their is not enough Whites in the Republican Party to have a majority party, even Whites support Trump, are deemed insane by their relative

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Wonderful! Two candidates that will be told what to believe in because they have no vision of their own.

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Donald Trump has more credibility for the issue of criminal justice reform that Biden and Harris combined.

It is going to be a huge problem for them on election day.

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Harris is literally the worst choice among all the non-white women Biden had limited his VP choices to. Stacey Abrams would be better.

Stacey Abrams is more "black" than Kamala Harris and would have been a better representatation of Black Americans than Harris. Harris is Jamaican/East Indian....but close enough for government work, as they say.

Biden picked the "safest" and "whitest" Black woman who would satisfy the demands of the Black voters and at the same time not totally alienate the White voters.

Harris is a strong will, ruthless and ambitious politician. She will be the real Boss in the Biden-Harris administration.

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The Europeans view with amusement the quaint, naive notions of "left" and "right" bandied about by the American political establishment and their enablers and among the paid hacks of the chatterati class who not only drive but also think on the right. Forsooth, with their prim, political correctness Americans have been so far right so long it looks like left to them. The Biden-Harris ticket will not change this entrenched cultural tick, but a "liberal" victory in November will be a vast improvement over the floundering administration of a mentally unmoored Trump.

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View Joe Bidens Intro……

Then USA today opinion piece…..August 10th

Joe Biden Introduces Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) As Running Mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymyY7jez0rM

Why Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would be a disastrous duo in the year of George Floyd

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/07/joe-biden-kamala-harris-2020-election-vice-president-crime-column/3309744001/

Is this phoney? a superficial pretense? Sound bites, however little solid policies that will provide a clarity on setting clear levels of taxation, government budgets, reforming the money supply or setting interest rates

Lashings of political pat on the back sickly sweet schmaltz.

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Another reason Biden picked Harris:

Harris, coming from California, will guarantee Biden will get the "winner-takes-all" electoral votes in the election.

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Biden has already won Florida, thus handing him the victory at 9 pm est on Nov 3rd

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Bottom line why Hillary and Obama were and still are so vilified by you know who, is because they are female and black.

There’ll be refutations and googling, but the root is it’s fear.

Both in one package now and we can see the fear already. Being told what to do by a woman or a black, get used to it!

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@blacklabel--your source D'souza pleaded guilty to a felony charge of illegal campaign donation. He had to spend 8 months in a halfway house. He needed to lobby Don T to symbolically pardon him. Sounds like a great role model (for the cons).

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Of course there's no crowd, these two won't win.

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After three and a half years of a failed presidency, I am so hungry for competent and inspiring leaders.

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Now how does Indian American + Jamaican American = Black American ? This identity race card will not work for her, she has no appeal among her ethnic lineage.

Especially considering Harris was raised by her Indian mom after her Jamaican dad ditched them. She also was not raised in a black community but in Berkeley, CA and has been privileged from birth as both of her parents were Ivy League professors/researchers.

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Its pretty clear even from Google. Numerous articles describing her as the first Indian-American of this and that. But now for politics, its very carefully stated as Black, with Indian "roots". As long as they remember to stay away from African American designation, they can continue the charade. Election is in like 10 weeks, wont take long.

Who is the first Indian American US senator?

Kamala Devi Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California.

Kamala Harris - Wikipedia

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bass:  what have the Democrats done or what policies made minority communities better

The Civil Right Act, the Voting Act, the Fair Housing Act, the Equal Credit Opportunity Act.

Your turn.

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Hey Kamala.

Nice to see you, and in the future in the WH.

The first female Vice President of the United States of America...in a landslide.

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Biden and Kamala hold one rally and trump and his supporters are having panic attacks.

The next 3 months dont seem very healthy for this scared witless bunch.

$26 million raised in 24 hours seems to be a the root of these problems!!!!

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“Another reason Biden picked Harris:

Harris, coming from California, will guarantee Biden will get the "winner-takes-all" electoral votes in the election.”

BWAHAHAHAHA (takes a deep breath) hahahahahaha.

Joe will win CA no matter whom he had chosen. He chose Harris because he knows he’s going to win.

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The problem is mainstream media who continually focuses on race. I

s Black, with Indian "roots".

not raised in a black community

Stacey Abrams is more "black" than Kamala Harris

When right wingers play something they call the 'race card', are they playing the 'race card'?

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The problem is mainstream media who continually focuses on race. I

You must read different media outlets from those I read. The outlets I read focus on a range of topics, including race. If you're American you should be able to understand why race has always been such a major topic. The only people I've ever heard say they don't want to hear about it are those from the far right wing of the dominant demographic.

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"Erik Morales, Mr. Biden has been in a very powerful position in American politics for decades, can you point me to anything he has done or proposed in those decades that would indicate he understands or cares about China's dangers? By the way, he is in good company as no other political figure in America has done anything either until recently."

In the mid 1980s, which means during the Reagan administration, we had PLAN (Peoples Liberation Army Navy, what China calls their navy) officers visiting our squadrons for demonstrations of our aircraft, our equipment, observing how we operated, touring our ships including our aircraft carriers and generally being offered equipment if they were interested. They even bought some helicopters from Sikorsky and gas turbines from GE for their first gas turbine warships. The old saw back then was that "engagement" with the west would gradually bring them along in the same manner Taiwan and South Korea changed from harsh military dictatorships to model democracies. That seemed to be working until the latter years of Hu Jintao's term as China's President. The Chinese experimented by allowing contested local government elections and even a serious and very public discussion of allowing private land ownership. Xi Jinping has changed the dynamic dramatically. Now there is no hope whatsoever. I do not see the Democratic Party with its many members of Congress and state elected officials with parents who immigrated from Hong Kong and Taiwan being accommodating to the CCP. They hate the CCP and are about the last people who will be fooled by their rhetoric.

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"Now how does Indian American + Jamaican American = Black American ? This identity race card will not work for her, she has no appeal among her ethnic lineage."

Especially considering Harris was raised by her Indian mom after her Jamaican dad ditched them. She also was not raised in a black community but in Berkeley, CA and has been privileged from birth as both of her parents were Ivy League professors/researchers.

That makes her the "whitest" and "safest" of all the "Black" candidates Biden had to pick from.

The Black people sees through this charade many question whether Harris, as a "Black" really represents the Black people.

Harris is also a former State Attorney General and top law enforcement officer. The BLM leader is quoted as saying "when Blacks join the police, they ain't Black; they're Blue."

There you have it, per the BLM, Harris "ain't Black".

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That makes her the "whitest" and "safest" of all the "Black" candidates Biden had to pick from.

The far right playing the 'race card'.

The Black people sees through

Are you speaking for Black people?

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The number of far-right posters being like "hrRRM how does she fare on the one drop rule!?" and analysing her bloodline like a bunch of Game of Thrones weirdoes is just bizarre. You can just say "i dont like minority lady", that would save us all a lot of time.

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The far right playing the 'race card'.

No more than the far left does and you know they do. The left is usually the first to play the 'race card'.

Are you speaking for Black people?

No more than you are. On the other hand, maybe you do.

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How refreshing to listen to a speech by someone who is articulate, intelligent and doesn't make mistakes like Thighland, oranges, Minneanapolis and Yo! Semite!

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That makes her the "whitest" and "safest" of all the "Black" candidates Biden had to pick from. 

The Black people sees through this charade many question whether Harris, as a "Black" really represents the Black people.

Thats a lot of condescending attitude, pretending to think for a race from a narrow minded viewpoint.

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your source D'souza pleaded guilty to a felony charge of illegal campaign donation. He had to spend 8 months in a halfway house. He needed to lobby Don T to symbolically pardon him. Sounds like a great role model (for the cons).

Ok, but that’s nothing even close to calling for a litmus test for Catholics or supporting late term abortion or ending private healthcare insurance.

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There you have it, per the BLM, Harris "ain't Black".

Most rational humans came together to support the BLM, the only ones trying to denigrate it were the bigots!!!

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Most rational humans came together to support the BLM, the only ones trying to denigrate it were the bigots!!!

Study about Blexit and come back here and discuss. Yes, there are many upon many black people who are against BLM. I dare you to call them bigots!

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Ok, but that’s nothing even close to calling for a litmus test for Catholics or supporting late term abortion or ending private healthcare insurance.

That's because those things aren't real.

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Study about Blexit and come back here and discuss. Yes, there are many upon many black people who are against BLM. I dare you to call them bigots!

Depends on why they're against BLM. Black people can certainly be bigoted. It's strange how the right think of black people as a monolith.

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thats curious as she was purposely picked to be minority lady.

You can just say "i dont like minority lady",

With the thinking of picking a minority lady being that any legitimate concerns about her previous personal or political actions can just be deflected by claiming racism or sexism.

No, they are still legitimate examinations of her actions and policies where she is found lacking in character or judgement.

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Why are Trump supporters so vocal?

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the right? These is nearly the exact racist statement of Joe Biden last week. Is he "the right" now?

It's strange how the right think of black people as a monolith.

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the right? These is nearly the exact racist statement of Joe Biden last week. Is he "the right" now?

He's definitely on the right of the party, yes. That's why he was the worst choice as the nominee, in my view.

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It's strange how the right think of black people as a monolith.

Trivia, who said these things:

"Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black."

"What you all know but most people don't know, unlike the African American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community."

We aren't talking about the 1960s, we are talking within the last 2 months lol

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Study about Blexit and come back here and discuss.

Do they have a manifesto?

Yes, there are many upon many black people who are against BLM.

Even Kanye didn't want anything to do with this delusional crowd, and that says a lot.

I dare you to call them bigots!

I do!!

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War of dirty words, fraudulent accusations, ugly smears, base insults between opposing parties have just begun. Nothing strange, that is the characteristic and nature of political world, of human obnoxious and unscrupulous chase for power and fame..

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Biden bets that, on balance, Harris has broad appeal that will shore up any weaknesses with Black women, an anchor of the Democratic Party, and other voters of color, while juicing turnout among white liberals and coaxing support from independents and Republican-leaning white voters who have soured on Trump.

So what the article is saying in essence is that "we don't really have any policies or solutions, so we'll play the race and gender card. That'll win 'em over!"

She has broadly endorsed the Green New Deal, progressives’ most ambitious set of proposals to combat climate change,

So, she's an economic illiterate. No surprises there.

If this is the best they can do, Trump shouldn't worry too much about changing address in January.

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If Biden was going to pick someone who’s worth anything in the Democrat party it should have been Tulsi Gabbard, would have definitely had a better chance, at least the woman is authentic, a woman and a minority as well which Dems seem afraid of, she’s just not “black.”

Tulsi would have been great as their presidential candidate, too. I think she's great.

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I’m not obsessed by race, I’m just curious.

biden makes obvious racist statements- aren’t identified as racist.

chooses someone for a job restricted only to people of a certain gender or race-, still not racist.

Harris describes racist views and policies of Biden in a debate- then says doesn’t believe he isn’t a racist.

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JohnSmithToday  12:04 pm JST

If Biden was going to pick someone who’s worth anything in the Democrat party it should have been Tulsi Gabbard, would have definitely had a better chance, at least the woman is authentic, a woman and a minority as well which Dems seem afraid of, she’s just not “black.”

Tulsi would have been great as their presidential candidate, too. I think she's great.

She and Andrew Yang were so far ahead of the rest of the Democratic field you could use the distance as a new astronomical unit.

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In a perfect world the Dems would nominating Tulsi Gabbard/John Delaney.

but picking the worst possible candidates seems to be the new Dem strategy.

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So no comments on what I actually said? just attack the person?

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Anyone else notice that the word, “black”, is capitalized throughout this article, but, “white”, isn’t?

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That is AP's new style.

So anyway now that Kamala is around she will take over all the interviews and public appearances/statements while Biden safety and silently retreats to the basement.

she will be doing the Chris Wallace interview that Uncle Joe was too busy to do, guaranteed.

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Its a simple and legitimate question.

How does the selection of Kamala Harris signal to African Americans their BLM concerns will be addressed and the issues in the Black community will be resolved?

Its basically the Dems doing a middle finger to Blacks and saying "this is what you will get as Black representation and you will like it".

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This is what liberal hero Chris Wallace at Fox said. Is this actually true, when a non African American was chosen instead of the available African American candidates. Yeah its a statement, but not a good one. The Black vote again is taken for granted that they will vote not for what they want, but for that they are allowed to have. One day the Black voter will tire of voting for the lesser of two evils, which is what they are always given.

“She adds some excitement to the ticket. She’s a statement to African Americans and especially to African American women, who are the real solid core of the Democratic Party, that the party does not take them for granted," the veteran newsman added.

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Its a simple and legitimate question.

How does the selection of Kamala Harris signal to African Americans their BLM concerns will be addressed and the issues in the Black community will be resolved?

It is simple, but it's also the first time you've asked this question.

I don't think it does much to address the concerns of BLM. But you've already said she's incredibly far-left, so perhaps you disagree.

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Another simple question.

Do you really think the African American community is satisfied with the selection of a non African American to this role? promised in response to African Americans saving the Biden candidacy from the garbage bin in South Carolina?

Will they consider this as "good enough" to them, do you think? Will they accept it but just stay home and not vote? Or will this selection excite African Americans and drive them to the polls in record numbers? Its legitimate questions to ask about the impact of this choice.

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Biden and especially Harris are as radically left as you possibly can get, they completely embrace the farthest spectrum of the most liberal policies from defunding the police as well as repeal private healthcare coverage of millions of Americans that love and are happy with it is completely unconstitutional and that they want to aggressively tax everyone including the middle class Into oblivion and let’s make no mistake about that, that is coming no questions asked.

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Biden and especially Harris are as radically left as you possibly can get

I think you’ll find quite a few further left than either.

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Biden and especially Harris are as radically left as you possibly can get, they completely embrace the farthest spectrum of the most liberal policies from defunding the police as well as repeal private healthcare coverage of millions of Americans that love and are happy with it is completely unconstitutional and that they want to aggressively tax everyone including the middle class Into oblivion and let’s make no mistake about that, that is coming no questions asked.

This far right talking point is riddled with errors.

B&H are conservatives who make older Democrats feel all warm and safe, they won't rock the boat and address the myriad of problems that the failed state has fallen foul of.

Defunding a militarized police forces or forces isn't the end of the world. More money can be pumped into marginalized communities, with more resources and jobs to create.

Frankly, they're so centre right wing, I have zero faith that B&H can bring positive change and socialism to the US.

Radical left - LOL.

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She and Andrew Yang were so far ahead of the rest of the Democratic field you could use the distance as a new astronomical unit

Totally! Tulsi and Yang! What a team they'd be! Tulsi surfs too... that should be a prerequisite.

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@blacklabel

So anyway now that Kamala is around she will take over all the interviews and public appearances/statements while Biden safety and silently retreats to the basement.

You should be pleased. This selection guarantees the Trump the second term that Trump was already guaranteed when Biden became the presumptive candidate, and that every other occurrence this year has additionally guaranteed, but that was also guaranteed by the first 3 years of Trump's first term. It seems that Trump is now guaranteed a second term, but if Harris commits some terrible blunder, Trump will be guaranteed a second term. However, if Biden blunders, Trump is guaranteed a second term. And this time, it's guaranteed.

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ZaphodToday  09:06 am JST

starpunk

First of all, Kamala's dad is Jamaican (black) and her mom is India (non-white Caucasian).

What is a "non-white Caucasian"? Can you elaborate on your race classification system?

Caucasian, Negroid (Black) and Oriental Asian are or have been considered the three basic 'races' of mankind. Often they are classified by more than just skin color, but also facial features like the shapes of the eyes, nose, lips. Not all Caucasians are of the European 'white skin' variety, Arabian people have a desert complexion and India subcontinent people generally have darker skin. The latter two groups are classified as 'Caucasian' due to their facial features but they are not 'white' in skin color like people of European descent. Other factors, like eye color, hair texture and follicle shape also determines a person's 'racial' aspects. And at the same time there's a lot of 'mixing together'. I don't believe there's anybody in America who is 100% one race. I know I'm not.

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The only thing that they will do is triple the deficit and expand more radical socialism

Speculative.

Trump has already gone nuts with the credit card after saying he’d get rid of the debt. Republican presidents love spending money they don’t have.

Has anyone else noticed that fiscal conservatism has started creeping back into the conversation? It was conspicuous by its absence for a long time among Trump supporters.

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JohnSmith

Totally! Tulsi and Yang! What a team they'd be! Tulsi surfs too... that should be a prerequisite.

Interesting you mention Tulsi. Do you remember how she wiped the floor with this Harris character? Totally showed her for the warmongering goon that she is.

But of course, the establishment swamp and media never gave Tulsi a chance.

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Good riddance Trump. It's been a weird, unproductive, painful, uncomfortable, waste of four years. Time to get back on track. Time to unite as much of the country as can be united. Time to really get things done for the people. Biden/Harris is a fine combination and Biden knows it's time for the next generation to lead. Trump only wants to stay in power so he can avoid jail for 4 more years!

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If Biden was going to pick someone who’s worth anything in the Democrat party it should have been Tulsi Gabbard, would have definitely had a better chance,

Most definitely. And remember how Harris visibly wilted when Tulsi went after her in the debate? Tulsi wouldve been a brilliant choice for the Dem ticket.

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