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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Biden and Trump offer worlds-apart contrasts on issues in rare contest between two presidents
By SEUNG MIN KIM, JILL COLVIN and CALVIN WOODWARD WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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bass4funk
They have until January 20 of 2025 then hopefully not anymore
bass4funk
Yeah, who?
Being a tax paying legal citizen does
Yes, that’s right.
Blacklabel
It’s shocking to non Americans but (a) $100,000 salary is nothing so taxes are due and paid and (b) American people often reside in more than one place when they don’t work in their home country.
Blacklabel
of course not. What kind of goofy nonsense is this? Has nothing to do with where you reside or do business.
wallace
The US needs someone better than Biden or Trump.
John-San
TRUMP: The former president vows an overhaul of the federal bureaucracy, which he has long blamed for stymying his first term agenda: “I will totally obliterate the deep state.” He plans to reissue the Schedule F order stripping civil service protections. He’d then move to fire “rogue bureaucrats,” including those who ”weaponized our justice system,” and the “warmongers and America-Last globalists in the Deep State, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the national security industrial complex.” He’s pledged to terminate the Education Department and wants to curtail the independence of regulatory agencies like the Federal Communications Commission.
If he truely does above then Israel/ Gaza / NATO / Ukraine won,t be an issue. Because dealing with the above is cutting the head of the snake off.
wallace
The Aid money to Ukraine was agreed upon by Congress.
konjo4u
Every year the Mar-a-Lago club sponsors foreign workers because no US workers are willing to work there. That is the legal requirement to sponsor workers. Does anyone really think that this is not complete hypocrisy?
wallace
Geeter Mckluskie
Billionaire Trump should not be using other people's donations to pay his personal bills when he is fully capable of paying them himself.
That is not personal gain.
wallace
bass4funk
So America First does not mean living in America and supporting the economy.
If you are a resident of Japan American income tax is only due on earning above $100,000.
plasticmonkey
No it wasn't.
Even in the pre-Elon era, Twitter had tons of very loud and very popular conservative voices.
Geeter Mckluskie
Biden shouldn't use US taxpayers' money to fund and prolong wars in other countries
Newgirlintown
Trump is just out for the richest in society. He doesn’t care about working class people but does a good job of pretending he does. Tax breaks for the highest earners? Check.
wallace
Billionaire Trump should not be using other people's donations to pay his personal bills when he is fully capable of paying them himself.
wallace
bass4funk
"X, formerly Twitter, has the biggest proportion of disinformation of six big social networks, a European Commission study has suggested."
I'm afraid you are grossly incorrect otherwise the US would not be awash with conspiracies. People even believe the TV series they watch.
X has more fake news than other social media platforms, EU reports
X, the social media company formerly known as Twitter, has scrapped a feature that lets users self-report political misinformation on
bass4funk
People are adults enough to make the determination as to what is real and what is fake.
Ok, that’s Europe’s thinking.
Yeah, before it was a liberal block all conservative speech in any form, no more. All sides should be represented not just the Lefts
owzer
Children tend to mimic their parents' political beliefs. They don't usually change until they get indoctrinated in university. Sounds more like he's a far-right extremist. Explains why he would want to shoot Trump.
You mean a victim of a political witch hunt? The convictions should and will be overturned.
I'm 100% in favor of having all the info come to light. Release the list. Have What-her-face's testimony made public. Whoever's on the list / guilty should get their punishment. But if we're going to arrest everyone who's taken a photo with the dude, or been on his plane, we're gonna need a bigger jail.
wallace
How much misinformation is on X?
"X, formerly Twitter, has the biggest proportion of disinformation of six big social networks, a European Commission study has suggested."
X has more fake news than other social media platforms, EU reports
https://www.wptv.com/x-has-more-fake-news-than-other-social-media-platforms-eu-reports
X, the social media company formerly known as Twitter, has scrapped a feature that lets users self-report political misinformation on
Christopher
Didn't anyone get the memo?
A call for unity and calm had been put out there by Biden and Trump. I guess wishful thinking.
I will be so happy when this whole woke and divided extremism era on both side has come to end. And put to bed in the history books. Mark my words its coming.
The fact of the matter is. The world. The country, The planet require firm peace accords. And firm strong coherent leaders. DJT said with Dr. Phil we have never been so closer to a WWIII then we are right now. Undefined. From behind my desk. I can concur, he is right. Domestically and abroad.
The Democrats and state media keep pushing distorted facts on all to the right side. It must stop.
This weird wacked out ,hell bent on destroying ourselves for party era, Its got to stop. We really need to start working together for the common good of all people. Cause I can tell you now. Most of you have no idea what's coming if Biden is re-elected. Trump and Biden or rather Dems and Pubs maybe worlds apart. But it doesn't have to be that way. We all stood united for a common cause when 911 happened. Is that what it will take? a strong good ole smack in the face to wake up to working together again?
bass4funk
And he will still be more wealthy happy and successful than all of us here combined. Doubt he cares what haters think.
bass4funk
I don’t think Musk sits there and works X by himself, he has staff for that. Don’t know why you were suspended, can’t say or judge because I don't know your situation.
Well, for millions of conservative's and independents he’s definitely a hero, not what tell you.
Ken
Musk is a man child, he doesn't have morals so it's no surprise he can't take criticism much like the CCP
commanteer
I read academic papers all the time and they are filled with sources from the internet. I can find theories of lizard people running the world on the internet and I can find serious research papers. Same thing with X. Intelligent people are able to discern sources - they know that X and the internet are not sources but platforms. Deriding a link that goes through X with "X is not a reliable source" is simply feigning ignorance. At least, I hope it's feigning.
PTownsend
At the Republican convention, Vance, I think it was, promised something he called "clean oil and gas", an update on Trump's 'clean coal'. Last year Trump held a fundraiser hosting Gulf Kingdom royals along with the west's corporate oil barons. Cornerstone to the GOP's policy is maintaining the wealth and global control of the fossil fuel aristocracy, the establishment that's brought so many wars and caused so much chaos, while poisoning the planet. Curious to see how Elmo X of the electric car spins this, or will he continue to rely on China to pad his wealth.
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Geeter Mckluskie
Seung Min Kim, CNN
Jill Colvin, "Lock him up" cheerleader
Calvin Woodward, has writtenover 100 articles on Trump...not a single positive one in the lot
Destin Skye
rcchToday 10:32 am JST
The xenophobic, anti-Asian bigot Piers Morgan has never been correct about anything. He is a propagandist for the far right in both Britain and America.
Erik Morales
Over 300k Asians(Chinese, Indians, Turkish) illegally crossing the southern border. Please do something about it and deport them all!!!!!
Destin Skye
bass4funkToday 07:53 am JST
Actually, Musk is against free speech. My account is suspended because I asked him why he didn't enforce free speech fairly between both sides in America. If Musk was for free speech, then he would have answered my question. Instead, he chose to prove his detractors right when they say he is using it as a vehicle for self-promotion and self-interest while snuffing out any opinions to the contrary.
Blacklabel
The liberal messaging is very disjointed and totally disorganized and disingenuous these days.
all you really got is a false claim he’s sleeping while his eyes are closed for the benediction.
sad!
bass4funk
Yes, Vance/Vivek 2028
the_sicilian
Why is this written like it's severely slanted on one direction?
Jimizo
Best not choose or dismiss your conspiracy theories based on partisanship. Not a good look. Not serious.
X is awash with all kinds of spammers, sock puppets and conspiracy theorists regurgitating nonsense about stolen elections, climate change a hoax, proxy wars etc. Ridiculous people.
I like the ones you find on social media in general who start with ‘I don’t like Trump but…’ and then go on to get triggered by the slightest criticism of him.
They are so transparent and funny.
Yep. 2028 will hopefully be better.
Hope springs eternal and all that.
tigerjane
rcch, you got your facts wrong.
Did you watch the first Republican Convention where Trump is sleeping away for at least 2 or 3 minutes and the commentors were wondering if he was still alive.
Trump and Biden both should step aside and allow voters to elect younger leaders who can remain awake and keep up with world events and individuals who have no criminal records, who have no ties with convicted pedophiles on more than one occasion, that have solid finances and no bankruptcies, and follow the laws of the United States.
Ken
Pause. Preservation for who?
rcch
Biden and Trump offer worlds-apart contrasts on issues in rare contest between two presidents
Hmm…
Biden: Death of Western Civilization.
Trump: Preservation of Western Civilization.
Yes—confirmed.
—
Also, Piers Morgan was right when he said: “ Trump walked into the Republican National Convention like a UFC star. Biden meanwhile fumbles questions about his own incendiary rhetoric in the lead up to Saturday's shooting. “
Peter Neil
the unvarnished truth is that trump should be in prison right now. insurrection comes with a 20 year sentence.
when you try to overthrow the government with fake electors, false election results and an attack on the capitol to stop the proceedings of government, it’s an attempted coup.
and you guys supporting that coup and the leader it it should be in prison, too.
you’re criminals, criminals against america and un-american in your actions. fake americans and no different than north korean puppets ion lockstep with dear leader.
it’s time for americans to tell the truth about you and call you out for what you are.
insurrectionists and enablers of a coup against america. i’m sick of it.
bass4funk
Hmm, for the life of me, I have no idea what you are talking about, you are wasting your breath, talking about something that I’m not even mentioning or don’t care about, the only thing that I was referring to was what people say, when a politician or a slept says or does something and it’s written on video and I take that and repost it. That’s not misinformation. That is exactly what that person said. It has nothing to do with being naïve, it has everything to do with, liberals want to hold conservative for the things they say, and hold their feet to the fire, fair enough, the same applies to liberals, that is what I was pointing out, nothing more.
Anything can
bass4funk
Well, they definitely can afford to pay them more
But I do know, we own family businesses
So what’s the Dems excuse? Their policies that have been most destructive to the poorest people.
Ok, so he shouldn’t? and then what’s going to happen? In California they tried to do that and it’s leading to a mass exodus where people might go in those states and work for Musk anyway
We are doing it peacefully
bass4funk
Being a tax paying legal citizen does
wallace
Social network sites like 'X' can influence people even when it's misinformation.
Sh1mon M4sada
Contest? LOL, ROTFL....
dagon
Affordable healthcare is an 'entitelment' along with the food stamps companies like Walmart have their employees enroll in because they have non living wages.
The fact you don't know that shows how hollow Trump's rhetoric of taking on the 'elite' and corporations is.
All he has is more billionaire corporate tax cuts as usual.
Let Dr. King educate you.
https://cityobservatory.org/dr-king-socialism-for-the-rich-and-rugged-free-enterprise-capitalism-for-the-poor/
Kabukilover
Here is the defining moment in this long and thorough article.
*Drill, baby drill." Global warming is causing havoc with severe weather. Trump would make it worse.
As he would with everything. Trump's concern is tp make people.miserable. Check it out.
Garthgoyle
Whoever wins, we lose.
Either the old guy passed retirement stage, who's barely coherent and who by the way, promised 4 years ago he'd do only one term.
Or
The narcissist who's only goal is to destroy whatever his opponents built already in the past 12 years, just for the purpose of maintaining his ego and not the good of a nation / world. The same guy who stood against democracy in November 2020 and should be rotting in jail for such acts.
Biggest empire in the world and the only options they're offering are these two buffoons.
tigerjane
owzerToday 08:46 am JST
You think because he was registered as a Republican that he was a Republican at heart?
Are you a tiger?
OwzerToday, you need to watch and read the news. Former classmates of the shooter said in class debates the shooter would always swing Republican when it came to debates. His parents had Trump signs all over their lawn just reinforcing which way this family leaned with their political beliefs.
Chico3
If you also notice the RNC Convention, Trump has been shown sleeping at his own convention on their big screen. Rep. Mike Johnson accusing Biden of not being able to speak without a teleprompter, whereas Johnson's teleprompter quits on him just before introducing the Attorney General, and just leaves without introducing him.
So, yes. There is a big contrast between the two Parties.
Jimizo
X is a toilet of spammers, sock puppets and conspiracy theorists.
Bottom of the barrel types - not to be taken seriously on anything.
Ken
Thank you because I said some of the same things as this but my comment was deleted for being "off topic"
Ken
Biden saying "if Trump is elected again America is in danger" is different than Trump saying "If Biden is elected again there will be chaos" WE all know the differences no matter how much certain folks want to down play it
finally rich
There was a time illegals avoided la migra, now they line up to meet them at the border!
How many CCP spies are there in this single picture?
Ken
Seeing X as a credible source is the equivalent of always believing the first thing you see on the internet. Imaging using an X post as a reference for college paperwork
wallace
bass4funkToday 09:26 am JST
There are more non-American 'X' members than American ones.
You don't know if an 'X' poster is an American or not. People can post misinformation about the election.
You cannot since proof of nationality is not required.
How does the "America First" stance of Trump supporters affect those living in a country like Japan instead of their homeland, America?
Democrats do that too. Taxes are only due on earning above $100,000.
So America First does not mean living in America and supporting the economy.
zibala
The United States needs a president who can bring the country together and mend the deep wounds and divisions.
The US needs are determined by US citizens.
And Trump is the leader that will do good not just for the US but also for the world.
bass4funk
But I’m not talking about the non-American ones, they can’t vote in the U.S., so they can say whatever they want, but it won’t sway the electorate one way or another.
Usually, you can tell.
Very easy, we can still vote and I do pay taxes, so….
Good for them. But geographically it doesn’t matter where I’m located at, the point is, if you’re a voter a patriot, that’s the only thing that matters, then there are the contributions
Sanjinosebleed
2 sides of the same coin!
bass4funk
If we cut aid to Ukraine and cut entitlements we probably will have it.
No, not sure what that even means
And to that point this is why corporations are leaving California and who loses in the end, the consumer, the community, the left wants to penalize the left for helping the public and giving them jobs. That ship has sailed, California will become the next Venezuela
If that were remotely true, Biden wouldn’t be bleeding minorities and he would be slamming Trump in the polls. None of that is happening.
PTownsend
And the previous guy plus his fellow billionaires, among others in the the global elite caste will say there isn't enough money for infrastructure and healthcare. They want socialism for the wealthiest, ignoring the reality that their corporations benefit greatly from publicly funded infrastructure, and the corporations are hurt when infrastructure is not upgraded. the extreme rightists care nothing about the working and middle classes paying taxes, spare me mention of his publicity stunt on not taxing tips.
wallace
bass4funk
There are more non-American 'X' members than American ones.
You don't know if an 'X' poster is an American or not. People can post misinformation about the election.
How does the "America First" stance of Trump supporters affect those living in a country like Japan instead of their homeland, America?
Democrats do that too. Taxes are only due on earning above $100,000.
bass4funk
But I’m not talking about the non-American ones, they can’t vote in the U.S., so they can say whatever they want, but it won’t sway the electorate one way or another.
Very easy, we can still vote and I do pay taxes, so….
lincolnman
Indeed....
One wants to preserve our over 200 year old democracy where freedoms are protected, the rule of law prioritized, and women and minorities treated equally and with dignity...
The other wants to enlarge his and his closest companions wealth by destroying our Constitution, implementing a fascist criminal kleptocracy based on faux religious principles, and using women and minorities as scapegoats...
One wants a US as we know it...
The other wants a US that's a mirror image of Russia - who's despot leader he has called a "genius"...
owzer
You think because he was registered as a Republican that he was a Republican at heart?
Are you a tiger?
tigerjane
Trump could not even stay awake for his own convention.
He has people yelling out fight, fight takes me back to 4 years ago when the White House was under attack.
The leader of the house could not speak because the teleprompter wasn't working and so he walked off the stage, The interesting point in this, he stated Biden couldn't speak unless the prompter was on and he should not be the President, and so, does this mean the Speaker of the House should resign if he cannot speak without the prompter.
You got Trump a convicted felon, a man who hung out with Epstein on more occasions you can count on your fingers and flew on private jets with him and why? Donald has his own jet why did he need to fly with Epstein was he doing some kinky things with young girls?
You got a kid who was a Republican and his family too, shooting at him and got his ear. What does Donald do, he fights his protection detail so he could stand up and so he could yell "FIGHT" inciting more violence. In addition, putting the lives of the people watching him, his detail and himself in harm's way.
You got that white nationalist group planning to rewrite laws that have been laws for many years if Donald gets reelected stripping minorities of their rights. God Bless America
wallace
How does the "America First" stance of Trump supporters affect those living in a country like Japan instead of their homeland, America?
itsonlyrocknroll
Joe Biden could have secured Roe vs Wade, Pre-Dobbs Doctrine fully into the constitution., he didn't when the opportunities was available.
wallace
There are more non-American 'X' members than American ones.
bass4funk
No one said that you couldn’t. Most of the msm are unreliable, look at their rankings
I agree, no arguments here, but that’s not what we were talking about. If I put a montage together of Obama speeches of what he said, it has nothing to with me other than, I just put together all the critical points he uttered throughout the years, that’s it.
I disagree
itsonlyrocknroll
President Joe Bidens has totally failed on every policy pledge.
Taxes, abortion, law and order, the cost of the Inflation Reduction Act, Climate change, the sovereign debt liability, immigration, the Gaza/Israel crisis, Ukraine, the continuing culture, identity political toxicity festering in schools, in communities that once where unified in a common goal.
The US economy is bouncing erratically without clear strong policies/strategies that promote long term growth.
Between 1.9% and 2.4% dependant on how the numbers are analysed.
Joe Biden must be judged on his record performance in office.
Not the suggestion that anything is better however incompetent than the republicans.
wallace
Here’s Why X is The Worst Platform for Disinformation
The EU recently singled out X for its monumental fake news problem, but being duped by misinformation isn't inevitable.
https://tech.co/news/x-worst-platform-disinformation
wallace
I said 'X' is an unreliable source. I stand by that. Because someone posts the sky is green does not make the sky green because science shows it is blue.
Nothing to do with liberals who can also post on 'X'.
bass4funk
Yes, but who are liberals to say what is right or wrong, they don’t have that right, neither side does.
So we have to only take the word of a liberal fact checker??? Seriously given their history?
Doesn’t matter, who gets to decide? Liberals are prevailing chosen ones to decide that?
Ok, but that has nothing to do with the people in the montage of pundits and media folk that said what they said, can’t undo it, sorry, also, if you want to come down hard on social media, then you need to do the same with msm as well, the libs have been losing that battle for years, just ask Joe Scarborough.
wallace
The United States needs a president who can bring the country together and mend the deep wounds and divisions. Neither Biden nor Trump fit this description, so the search for such a leader will have to continue for at least another four years.
The FBI is no clearer about Trump's shooter motivations.
u_s__reamer
As always, "Capital" will have last word on who sits behind the "Resolute Desk". In the Republic's duopoly arrangement, it matters not which party wins because it's win-win, either way. The unusual feature of this year's contest is that both candidates manifestly lack even the slightest claim to be morally acceptable to any decent person with eyes and ears and a conscience.
bass4funk
He’s pro-life for the defenseless who have rights as well
Trump believes in America first and solving America’s problems first and foremost, I love my neighbors and their kids, but mine will always come first before someone else’s, always, I would be a horrible father if I took care of my neighbors and their kids and told my own to just wait and I’ll eventually get back to them at some point and time.
With the U.S.
As do most MAGA supporters
Who’s playing the victim card?
But when the Dems had Congress and the presidency in 2010 and 2020 they did nothing.
Absolutely
Not so sure, the last couple of debates have shown us something frighteningly different.
wallace
bass4funkToday 07:53 am JST
'X' is not a reliable source.
People can post whatever they want, whether it's true or not, and there is no editing or fact-checking. Free speech does not make it correct.
All social networks are unreliable when it comes to posting truth.
owzer
Yes and Biden suggesting to put Trump in the bullseye, or calling him Hitler for the last several years is cool. Mkay
Bob Pns
I think I won’t be voting this year
Biden is senile
Trump tried to steal the election
ebisen
Beavis and Butthead (or President trump and President biden). America should learn what freedom and responsibility means from Europe and Japan.
Haaa Nemui
He almost lost what little internal infrastructure he had a couple of days ago. “Saved by God” though.
Underworld
bass4funk
That's up to Trump. The Democrats have always been civil.
Is that all they could come up with? Pathetic. And it rather reinforces my point.
bass4funk
X is the platform, has nothing to do with the individual posting nor does it have anything to do with the people in the video uttering these things, the only thing and what is fabulous about the platform is, liberals don’t have a monopoly anymore on Free speech unlike other platforms that will silence, ban or throttle you. So it’s reliable when it comes to allowing free speech.
itsonlyrocknroll
President-elect Joe Biden's victory speech in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfNYztas2c
"I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide but unify, who doesn’t see red states and blue states, only sees the United States"
"I’ll work with all my heart, with the confidence of the whole people, to win the confidence of all of you. And for that is what America, I believe, is about. It’s about people. And that’s what our administration will be all about".
"I sought this office to restore the soul of America, to rebuild the backbone of this nation: the middle class. And to make America respected around the world again. And to unite us here at home"
Now 2024, under Joe Biden Presidency, never has a US nation been more divided, a clear gap between the haves and the have nots. A failure of government and leadership,
A now a presidential nominee life subject to an assassination attempt on the campaign trail.
Two devastating wars, the middle east on the verge of anarchy.
Tens of thousand lives lost, Israel suffering another threat from an enemy intent of exterminating the Jew, from the river to the sea.
At home, the sacred justice system weaponised to thwart Donald Trump campaign at every stage.
Is this truly what the "stock" of the "Joe Biden pledge" amounts too?
And 2024, are the US people expected to vote for a Joe Biden that bears no relation to the President that entered office?
Compare Joe Biden 2020 to the Joe Biden 2024 with your own eyes .........
Full Debate: Biden and Trump in the First 2024 Presidential Debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqG96G8YdcE&t=4527s
Joe Biden is barely a shadow of 2020
wallace
'X' is not a reliable source.
bass4funk
Really??? Well, history has a very different outlook..
https://x.com/cawthornfornc/status/1812261447529025844?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
stormcrow
Let's see . . .
Biden is pro-choice on abortion and thus believes in a woman's right to choose for herself. / Trump is anti-abortion and thus anti-woman's right to choose.
Biden believes in supporting Ukraine in its defense against Russian aggression. / Trump stated that Putin was a genius when he invaded Ukraine, so we know where his heart and loyalties lie.
Trump believes in isolationism and doesn't understand the history of the past which has shown that this is the road to WWIII. Isolationism just means ignoring other countries, especially democracies like Ukraine, which are attacked and invaded by dictators. Not at all different from what transpired regarding the events that led up to WWII, and I won't say the German guy's last name which starts with an H because this is a sensitive time right now for all of those playing the victim card.
Biden supports stronger legislation regarding gun control. / Trump, who is fully supported by the NRA, is on the side of gun manufacturers.
etc.
Biden might be old, but he knows the difference between what's right and what's wrong. Trump thinks that injecting bleach gets rid of Covid.
Trump . . Strong but wrong.
marc laden
BIden is the most energetic young man in this world. His is 1000 times higher than Einstein. His memory power is 4k 1000 Mp photohraphic ... ( this way was reported all the time )
I was believing all these lies on left media start with MSNBC and here in JT..
After understanding the reality ... how they treated us their slaves... I left democrat party ..
Finally we new that it was not Biden running the country. He is just a puppet ... what a shame..
Underworld
falseflagsteve
That's up to Trump. The Democrats have always been civil.
bass4funk
But it came out of a Capitalists mouth
Hmmm
Trump didn’t have the internal infrastructure he has now and will have next year.
So now the Dems have another pressing predicament on their hands
falseflagsteve
I hope the campaigns can now be more civil after the attempted assassination of Mr Trump.
owzer
A vote for Biden is a vote for the puppet masters who have been making decisions the last 3 1/2 years.
Banthu
The bloody assassination attempt that happened in the backdrop of a proud American flag in the nation's heartland is rallying point for unity and reconciliation.
Biden did the right thing when he apologized for making divisive and disrespectful comments against Donald and Trump has been quite mature about withholding comments about Biden's unfortunate age-related issues.
It even looks as if RJK and Trump are going to mind ties and Kennedy might fully endorse Trump in exchange for Trump putting Bobby in charge of a National Commission to investigate the Operation Warpspeed debacle, which Trump seems ready to take some honest accountability for.
The healing of a troubled nation starts hear and now.
dagon
The RNC invited the head of the Teamsters to give a speech that could have come out of the mouth of Bernie Sanders.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/16/teamsters-sean-obrien-trump-rnc-speech
They are trying that old populist, take on Wall Street and the elite feint Trump did in 2016.
Which is not reflected in any of their policies now and did not happen during the Trump admin.
Not falling for it but many will.
bass4funk
Not sure what that all meant, but good luck to him
Yrral
Biden has already won,as long ,he do not stumble, because the Democrats party members has the power to inflict psychological pain on non critical thinking Republican,who are not only ignorant and they also crazy legally