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Biden announces sweeping new vaccine mandates for 100 million Americans

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Taking care of business instead of letting the anti-vaxxer minority continues to drag us all down.

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For the OSHA 100 employee mandate, does that mean both in-person workers and remote workers? Many/most tech is still working from home.

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Also, isn't OSHA already pretty understaffed? This from about six months ago:

Interviews with former OSHA officials, workplace safety experts, attorneys, union leaders and workers paint a portrait of an agency struggling with Trump-era reductions to its inspector ranks, a wave of pandemic-related complaints and shifting public health guidance. As panicked employees turned to the agency tasked with ensuring that their workplaces are safe, OSHA was unable to meet the demand for inspections and enforcement.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article249891823.html

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Who cares if anyone gets a vaccine, it’s up to them if they want to be dumb and not get one. And who cares about numbers, a return of my freedoms is more important. If people get sick of some stupid virus , stupid virus variant etc, and hospitals are busy they can stay at home and their room can be the hospital. I want to move around freely again and drink when I please travel when I please etc

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For the OSHA 100 employee mandate, does that mean both in-person workers and remote workers? Many/most tech is still working from home.

Tech workers still leave the house and interact with the general public, so they can still spread the virus in their private lives.

Infection is still infection regardless of the circumstances.

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FOXNews requires its employees to be vaccinated or get tested every week for COVID-19!!!

Oh, my...................!

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Way to go Joe Biden!

No jab? no job!

No jab? No flight!

Make life as uncomfortable as possible for the anti-vaccine cultists.

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In his most forceful pandemic actions and words

rofl. I saw it. Once again he gave a dispirited reading.

Speaking at the White House, Biden sharply criticized the roughly 80 million Americans who are not yet vaccinated, despite months of availability and incentives.

“We’ve been patient. But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us," he said, all but biting off his words.

ooh, getting scolded by Biden.

Anyway, once again, the unvaccinated are only putting themselves at risk. Joe even said it when he said he hears many of the unvaccinated say in their last breaths, if only they would’ve gotten vaccinated. There are breakthrough cases, and they too can infect other people. The vaccinated only help themselves from severe symptom. And the vaccinated who do get sick could—I’m not saying they are—but they could be responsible for a stronger, vaccine resistant strain.

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No jab? no job!

No job? No taxes!

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How nice of Biden to also partner with Walmart and Amazon—huge,huge,huge companies with billionaire CEOs famous for exploiting the labor force—to hand out home testing kits. One left hand washes the other, I guess. Just makes me think about all the small businesses that were ruined because of the lockdowns. Biden seems to have a real agenda against small businesses.

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First it was “the vaccine is unproven!” And then hundreds of millions of doses were given with adverse side effects about as likely as being struck by lightning multiple times.

Then vaccines were a conspiracy by big tech to implant microchips in the bloodstream. A conspiracy posted no doubt from a phone that never leaves one’s side....

Then it was “The vaccine is not approved for use.” Oops, now what?

Then (This one’s my personal favorite) “Religious exemption!” Please state for me the mainstream religious bodies Christian, Jewish, Islamic or otherwise that take a position against vaccines -not some fringe pastor, an actual organizing faith.

Then it was “Ma freedumb! Tyranny!” We have any number of restrictions/requirements on public conduct from not smoking indoors to required vaccination to attend public school and not one has been the subject of a debate.

And then by far the weakest: “It’s personal choice. If you want one - fine. If you don’t -fine.” That’s an argument for smoking, something I recently gave (am trying to give) up. See, here’s the deal, when I smoked, I was only killing myself because I didn’t smoke in the house or around others (well, I smoked around other smokers...)

On the other hand, purposely choosing not to get a proven safe and effective vaccine not only puts oneself at risk, it creates the environment for a highly infectious (I like to joke it spreads faster than an STD at Coachella) and highly lethal disease to infect others.

So in summary, the conspiracy-addled “choice” to act contrary to public health is an anathema to a functioning democracy We don’t have a pandemic of the unvaccinated, we have a pandemic of morons and cultists

Or as Howard Stern so profoundly put it, “Duck your freedom” (Insert another consonant).

Looking forward to the day when proof of vaccination will be required to attend virtually any public event Then I’ll know that my fellow attendee is as committed to my health as I am to his/hers.

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One person’s liberty can’t trump everyone else’s.

https://news.yahoo.com/surprisingly-strong-supreme-court-precedent-040057253.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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I suspect many folks will quit if they work for a company with more than 100 workers and go work for a small business. This is s great way to help out small business struggling to find workers.

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Pretty sad.

We'll try to remember to cry when we get home from being out and about enjoying life without a bunch of anti-societal unvaxxed around.

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The Mother of all overreaches.It was only back in July when the press secretary said that a federal vaccine mandate was "not the role of the federal government." Now this.

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Tech workers still leave the house and interact with the general public, so they can still spread the virus in their private lives.

Key to this is, when considering OSHA's statutory power to regulate workplace safety, is private life versus employment life. If an employee endangers oneself or others off the clock and off the premises of his/her employer, then every OSHA statute and regulation imaginable will not apply. Thoughts on expanding OSHA's powers to off-site and off-clock conduct should come from the legislative branch, not the executive.

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Not surprising

The immunotherapy shots are not working as they should, even the CDC has had to change the definition of “vaccine” to fit the immunotherapy shot. This is the best way to avoid those headlines.

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The immunotherapy shots are not working as they should, even the CDC has had to change the definition of “vaccine” to fit the immunotherapy shot. This is the best way to avoid those headlines.

It's a conspiracy. You should make sure the world knows about this travesty.

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Excellent!

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Too little too late Osha had the power to shut down and fine businesses,that violate workers,right to be protected from Covid

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but what’s really needed is a change in mindset for many people, said Dr Joshua Sharfstein, vice dean at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore.

At this point, if the anti-vaxx, anti-government Americans are still unwilling to heed the advice of most medical scientists (in private practice and working for the government), and instead want to believe that using medications created for animals, or injecting disinfectants is the way to deal with what they have claimed was just another flu, then let them self-select out of the ability to vote and breathe.

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Even more divisive than Obama.

going to get sued pretty much immediately.

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Glad I don’t work for the government.

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"Good morning, Citizens. Your corporeal persons are now the property of the U.S. state. You will obey our diktats as with immediate effect. Disobedience will be punished."

Now, I am generally pro-vaccine, but forcing people to undergo medical procedures (however minor or advisable) without their consent is a violation of their person. We don't force Jehova's witnesses to have blood tranfusions, even if it is in their best interests, now do we?

Incidentally, there is a distinctly authoritarian tone pervading the comments section. I would like to say I am surprised but...

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Even more divisive than Obama. 

Even more decisive than Obama.

going to get sued pretty much immediately.

If it saves even one life, it is worth all the lawsuits rudy and sydney might file. They will be defeated and dragged out of the courts.

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Flip flop from July 23rd:

“Is that a sign that perhaps the federal government should step in and issue mandates? And if not, are you putting the needs of unvaccinated people ahead of the needs of vaccinated people?

MS. PSAKI: Well, I think the question here — one, that’s not the role of the federal government; that is the role that institutions, private-sector entities, and others may take. “

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Glad I don’t work for the government.

Not as glad as we are.

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As the majority of the comments here prove Biden point and reason the rules have to be made - you cannot reason with idots. These are supposed 'adults' and they are destroying the 'freedoms' of others for their idotic conspiracies.

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Biden: "I'm tired of askin' nice. We can do this the easy way, or the hard way."

Good.

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Not as glad as we are

And I’m equally glad about that. I like my freedom

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Anyway, once again, the unvaccinated are only putting themselves at risk.

People keep saying this but it’s actually false. Every person that requires treatment, vaccinated or not, puts others at risk. Proportionately, there are far more unvaccinated using medical care that could have gone to someone else had they taken the option of a tiny amount of discomfort instead. I’d say if you agree to forgo the medical treatment, then fine, don’t get vaccinated.

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So we can expect the DOJ to sue the Biden administration claiming this is unconstitutional, right?

if the vaccinated thought their vaccine actually works as they claim, they wouldn’t be worried at all about unvaccinated people.

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Wonderful speech! Vaccine passports! Vaccine passports!

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And I’m equally glad about that. I like my freedom

Sir, we are equally happy that you have the freedom to be jobless!!!

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Waste of time! After 6 months the Pfizer and moderna vaccines lose most of their efficacy

https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/israel-85-90-of-the-hospitalizations-are-in-fully-vaccinated-people/

Open it up and move on!

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Im not trusting Biden these days. Something is amiss.

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Sir, we are equally happy that you have the freedom to be jobless!!!

I never said that nor did I imply that. I don’t work for the government, never had a government job, never would take a government job, always loved the private sector. Stop trolling please. People that work in the government, I get it, you don’t have a choice or at least limited. I don’t fall in that category.

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if the vaccinated thought their vaccine actually works as they claim, they wouldn’t be worried at all about unvaccinated people.

I'm entirely confident the vaccine works, and I'm worried about unvaccinated people. Unfortunately, as much as the extremists would like, we don't live in a binary world, and as such, the vaccine is not 100% effective, meaning that those of us living in the real world, you know, not a fantasy land of binary extremes, have something to worry about from the unvaccinated.

Unfortunately, trying to explain to a binary thinker that the world is not binary gets met with stares of confusion, same as if you tried to explain how something isn't the right blue to a blind person.

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Polls have repeatedly shown vaccine hesitancy among Republicans, but data from the CDC shows only 10% of the Black population and 16% of the Hispanic population, both of who overwhelmingly vote Democrat, are fully vaccinated.

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Waste of time! After 6 months the Pfizer and moderna vaccines lose most of their efficacy

Sorry but you need better sources the information from your link has been completely debunked from weeks ago.

Vaccines work, much better than what was expected during trials, and even against variants for which they were not designed for.

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A political leader willing to take tough action to tackle the toughest problem of all. That's certainly refreshing. Too bad Biden cant come here to Japan to run this country.

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While as of late July 2021, White adults accounted for the largest share (57%) of unvaccinated adults, Black and Hispanic people remain less likely than their White counterparts to have received a vaccine, leaving them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.

Whites in Texas have a very low vaccination rate. Probably why the state along with Florida has a high number of cases.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

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Freedom ain't free. People have gone to war to protect freedom, laid their lives down for others so they might have a chance at a great life. Now we are fighting a virus for our freedom. Anti-vaxxers are completely disrespecting the sacrifice people in the past and present have made for their own selfish, delusional reasons. They'd rather believe liars on the internet rather than the blood, sweat and tears of those that are actually protecting them. Selfish, childish and disrespectful.

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But Vaccine disinformation can kill people, someone can read the lies spouted by a few people here-the B crowd, and not take vaccine, fall sick and possibly die.

Media outlets publishing posts from misinformation and disinformation spreaders need to be willing to accept their roles in dragging the pandemic out.

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virusrexToday  08:46 am JST

Waste of time! After 6 months the Pfizer and moderna vaccines lose most of their efficacy

Sorry but you need better sources the information from your link has been completely debunked from weeks ago.

Vaccines work, much better than what was expected during trials, and even against variants for which they were not designed for.

The only one promoting bunk here is you!

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Harsh reality is that the several jabs are far less effective against the virus than other actually effective vaccines(small pox, TB, Yellow Fever, etc.) and are much more like the influenza jabs that are 50/50 at best.

I've had countless vaccinations in the past (prior military service), so I'm not anti-vax. But this is utterly ridiculous and useless.

I must already be immune since I've had direct contact with a few people who have had the 'rona, but haven't been sick. I also haven't had a cold or flu in over a decade.

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This is good news. The vaccination rate in the US is still only 53%. Excludiung the people who have valid medical reasons to not be vaccinated, the rest need to be "coerced" through every legal measure possible. Those crying "discrimination" have no idea what the word really means.

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It Just Gets Better & Better.

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Good.

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One person’s liberty can’t trump everyone else’s.

That is exactly the argument Associate Justice John Harlan uses in the majority opinion he authored for Jacobson v Massachusetts 197 U.S. 11 (1905) in upholding the right of the state of Massachusetts to require all residents to receive a vaccination against smallpox or face a fine and/or jail during one of the frequent smallpox epidemics that plagued that era.

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@Mr. Noidall

While I don't agree that anti-vax people should be denied treatment, I believe treatment should be first given to those who actually made an effort to avoid and suppress the virus.

Yes, countless generations before us have fought and died so we may live in a peaceful, healthy society. Science has given us the tools to fight this virus, yet some are too delusional and selfish to work together with the rest of us. Quoting ridiculous 'sources' like 'coronaheadsup.com', that's not freedom, that's a willfully ignorant and disrespectful act.

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Refusing the vaccine is similar to refusing to get health insurance. When you get sick you end up costing everyone else who took part

Personal health and public health should go hand in hand

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Open it up and move on!

Vaccines reduce both the frequency of infection very much and in the few cases where a vaccinated person does have a breakthrough infection the symptoms are much less severe if any at all. But just moving on means mass deaths and a lot of survivors with permanent lung damage that diminishes their health forever. This is not the path to success. Without mass vaccination there is no moving on.

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Harsh reality is that the several jabs are far less effective against the virus than other actually effective vaccines(small pox, TB, Yellow Fever, etc.)

This is not a correct interpretation of the data. The Vaccine is highly effective, 90% or more. Roughly similar to measles and small pox. The difference for measles and small pix is that everyone (almost) has been vaccinated and thus the pool of virus to encounter is so infinitesimally small that it just doesn’t happen.

Not so with COVID. You still have between a 5-10% chance of infection (but zero risk of death) and the pool of virus is still significant due to anti-vaccine morons.

Thus the vaccine mandate.

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And then by far the weakest: “It’s personal choice. If you want one - fine. If you don’t -fine.” That’s an argument for smoking, something I recently gave (am trying to give) up. See, here’s the deal, when I smoked, I was only killing myself because I didn’t smoke in the house or around others (well, I smoked around other smokers...)

This is an excellent example, because smoking does not only harm you. There have been numerous studies that show that second-hand smoking, while not as dangerous as smoking directly, increases the risk of lung cancer among non-smokers. After even one cigarette, the effects of breathing around others can affect them and increase the chances they will get sick.

It's like the vaccine. If you don't take it, you are definitely the one most at risk. But you are also putting others at risk.

Congratulations on deciding to quit smoking. I know how hard it can be, and I wish you the best of luck.

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yet people have dies from the vaccine itself and also after being vaccinated. thats not zero.

You still have between a 5-10% chance of infection (but zero risk of death)

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Bidens mandate affects people of color and also those of low socioeconomic status disproportionately.

How does it disproportionately affect people of color and poor people? I'm not seeing it.

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Another blow to the economy. And another flat and uninspiring speech. And much of the programme still not convincingly backed by data about Covid.

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Good leadership from Biden. I heard one unkind observation that the anti-vaxxers tend not to be the most productive or brightest lights in the economy, but almost all have a part to play.

I’m off tho live in the US in the near future, and it’s good for me to see steps taken to improve public health there.

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People of color who are unvaccinated will lose their jobs during a time of pandemic, high inflation and poor economy.

As I showed. both Black and Hispanic Americans have extremely low vaccination rates and will be fired. How can they support their families with no job?

How does it disproportionately affect people of color and poor people? I'm not seeing it.

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People of color who are unvaccinated will lose their jobs during a time of pandemic, high inflation and poor economy.

Woah, that sucks. Sounds like they should get vaccinated, if you ask me. I think you should lay off of the identity politics, too.

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As I showed. both Black and Hispanic Americans have extremely low vaccination rates and will be fired. How can they support their families with no job?

They can get vaccinated and keep their job. It's called personal responsibility. That's what the GOP is all about, right?

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yet people have dies from the vaccine itself and also after being vaccinated. thats not zero. 

There has yet to be a documented case of someone dying either as a direct result of vaccination or from COVID after vaccination.

Yes, shocker, people die. Did they die of COVID? There is no data yet to affirm on the other hand there is rather a lot of data that says the unvaccinated die of COVID and expose others to risk at a statistically significant rate.

The odds of a fully vaccinated person contracting a serious (meaning requiring a vent) are about 1 in 160,000. I’ll take those odds any day.

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That’s odd. Anything else that disproportionately affects people of color is immediately criticized and legally challenged.

last time Black people let the government inject them it was called the Tuskegee “experiment”.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/571214-13-miami-area-school-staffers-die-of-covid-19-since-start-of-new

all 13 who died were unvaccinated Black Americans. Who are as a group are woefully under vaccinated.

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I'm kinda surprised by these comments. I thought authoritarian-esque behaviours exhibited by governments were usually condemned by people around here.

I've been vaccinated myself but I'm definitely not cool with anyone being forced to inject something into their bodies against their will.

Test them, and test them often. It's the only way to really know if anyone is carrying the virus anyway, since it's known that vaccinated people can in some cases also catch and spread it. And perhaps the inconvenience of being constantly tested might encourage people still on the fence to get the vaccine.

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Say what? No one has died from the vaccine or of COVID after being vaccinated? No one?

There has yet to be a documented case of someone dying either as a direct result of vaccination or from COVID after vaccination.

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I’m off tho live in the US in the near future, and it’s good for me to see steps taken to improve public health there.

I’m just glad most of Texas does what it wants, makes for a happier community.

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all 13 who died were unvaccinated Black Americans. 

That's terrible. If only they had been vaccinated, they'd likely still be alive.

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But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,"

This is hard to understand for Republicans. They refuse covid vaccine, which was tested world wide on the entire population, but willing to take Ivermectin with just anecdotal efficacy. Talk about stupid.

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I’m just glad most of Texas does what it wants, makes for a happier community.

Nothing happy about a raging pandemic and people doing what they want just to own the libs. Grow up.

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