Biden assails 'Trumpies' in Labor Day battleground pitches

I object to the use of the term “Trumpies.”

It makes Trumps cultist rubes sound as though they are merely stupid when in fact they’re anti-democratic fascists who support the over-turning of free and fair elections that they list via political violence.

The only part of the true characterization that the term gets right is that “Trumpie” = “moron”.

“The middle class built America,” Biden told a workers’ gathering at park grounds in Milwaukee. “Everybody knows that. But unions built the middle class.”

Biden and his neo-liberal compatriots in the Democratic Party's assisting in the weakening of the US labor movement and union rights is one of the leading factors towards the rise of Trumpist extremism.

Biden is “an enemy of the state.”

As Trump sees himself as “the state”, he is correct in this assertion.

“blind loyalty to a single leader, and a willingness to engage in political violence, is fatal to democracy.”

Biden is correct in this assertion. Hope the GOP understands this soon. But I doubt it.

Biden is correct in this assertion.

How so?

“blind loyalty to a single leader, and a willingness to engage in political violence, is fatal to democracy.”

I would think the man just contradicted himself badly after that brimstone and fire so-called unity speech.

Hope the GOP understands this soon. But I doubt it.

Oh, I think we do, now more so than ever.

Oh, I think we do, now more so than ever.

I see. The GOP now understands that blind loyalty to a single leader is dangerous to democracy. You’re all ready to ditch Trump. Nobody needs his endorsements and nobody needs to bend over backwards to please this guy anymore. Noted.

Trump characterizing Biden as “the enemy of the state” shows just how addled and deeply stupid he really is.

It’s not really possible for the head of state to be the enemy of said state. He/she could be an enemy of the people, of democracy, or of the English language, but not the state UNLESS Trump (as we know he does) mischaracterizes himself as the State.

To be fair, this is the rocket scientist who hid evidence of his crimes in his desk drawer under his passports, so….

About as expected I guess?

“The president made his own Wilkes-Barre trip last week to discuss increasing funding for police, decry GOP criticism of the FBI after the raid on Trump’s Florida estate and to argue that new, bipartisan gun measures can help reduce violent crime.”

Sounds like something resembling a plan. Certainly better than hijacking others platforms to whine endlessly about past losses.

I see. The GOP now understands that blind loyalty to a single leader is dangerous to democracy.

Well, no. The loyalty is towards the man that loves the US, the sovereignty of the nation, our first and second amendment rights, smaller government, lower taxes, energy independence, rejecting wokeness, empowering small businesses, a strong military, more empowerment to the individual, support for our police, a closed border, so yeah, why would anyone not want to be loyal to that?

You’re all ready to ditch Trump.

As much as I would ditch my own family.

Nobody needs his endorsements

No, that is your personal opinion, there are millions of people want it and if Biden thinks he's helping himself or his party by continuously trying to insult 74 million people, that can go on only for so long.

Trump responded during his Saturday rally that Biden is “an enemy of the state.”

That's not all he said....

Donald Trump held a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, on Saturday where he appeared to briefly forget that he is no longer in the White House.

The ex-president was sharing an anecdote about Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg when he bizarrely suggested that the Meta CEO had attended a dinner at the White House as his guest “last week”.

"Last week, the weirdo — he’s a weirdo — Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mark-zuckerberg-weirdo-b2159532.html?fbclid=IwAR0_QGKPJA9CMmtkX4Q8iJ4FfO1CYIxvl1bt-M6rvtsNj4kuMdD_Tz1GgjM

Evidently his TDS (Trump Dementia Syndrome) has gotten so bad he can't remember he was kicked out of the White House two years ago...

As much as I would ditch my own family.

Now that’s what I call blind loyalty to a single leader. Well done, good and faithful servant.

No one loves Trump more than Trump does.

Humiliated by the search of his home.

I like the part where he called for pardons for convicted criminals including a neo-Nazi who actually PURPOSELY resembles Hitler, and who was convicted on 5 felonies in May (sentencing next Friday!)

And this is just one example of the fascists, xenophobes and domestic terror apologists that make up the MAGA base

Very fine people indeed.

They’re not a bunch of cute, but stupid misguided folks in absurdly large foam hats. They’re cultists.

loves the US, the sovereignty of the nation, our first and second amendment rights, smaller government, lower taxes, energy independence, rejecting wokeness, empowering small businesses, a strong military, more empowerment to the individual, support for our police, a closed border,

Hate to break it to you, but most Republican pols can say the same thing. The GOP MAGA faithful want Trump because he’s an obnoxious jerk who “sticks it to the libs” and isn’t afraid to tear democratic norms to shreds so he can get his way. The faithful need a narcissist who promises to fix everything they’re angry about.

Now that’s what I call blind loyalty to a single leader. Well done, good and faithful servant.

Yes.

Hate to break it to you, but most Republican pols can say the same thing. The GOP MAGA

More GOP MAGA or Trumpies talking points? The left is seriously running out of insults.

faithful want Trump because he’s an obnoxious jerk who “sticks it to the libs” and isn’t afraid to tear democratic norms to shreds so he can get his way.

It is definitely true, the way the libs get down and the gutter and insults the right, Trump does it to the left, it's just that the left loses it when he does it. You can insult me, but I dare not insult you? Give me a break. Lol

The faithful need a narcissist who promises to fix everything they’re angry about.

That is exactly how the right feels about the left as well.

Biden keeps baiting Trump, and Donald falls for it every time....

One of the purposes of Biden’s Philadelphia attack on Trump’s faction within the Republican Party was surely to goad Trump. It worked.

Yesterday, in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump addressed a rally supposedly in support of Republican candidates in the state: Mehmet Oz for the Senate; the January 6 apologist Doug Mastriano for governor. This was not Trump’s first 2022 rally speech. He spoke in Arizona in July. But this one was different: so extreme, strident, and ugly—and so obviously provoked by Biden’s speech that this was what led local news: “Donald Trump Blasts Philadelphia, President Biden During Rally for Doug Mastriano, Dr. Oz in Wilkes-Barre.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/trump-pennsylvania-rally-republicans/671344/

Just like in 2020 when Trump ranted about himself and didn't support either of the Repub Georgia Senate candidates, and they each lost, he's doing it again in 2022 - making these rallies all about himself rather than talk about the candidates...even when both Oz and Mastriano trail their Dem opponents by 8 points...

Just another example that in Nov, Dems win, Pubs lose...

That is exactly how the right feels about the left as well.

I think it’s more accurate to say it’s how you feel about the left. Unless you asked all of them.

It is definitely true, the way the libs get down and the gutter and insults the right, Trump does it to the left, it's just that the left loses it when he does it. You can insult me, but I dare not insult you? Give me a break. Lol

You really need to take a break and watch this....ROFL...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scathing-supercut-exposes-wing-hypocrisy-075522733.html

I think it’s more accurate to say it’s how you feel about the left.

Not just me, 74 million, I am just a drop in the bucket of people that despises the Washington political establishment.

Unless you asked all of them.

Don't need to, the Dems and this President are the ones declaring war and calling and insulting anyone and everyone that is against their reign, including growing numbers of minorities.

https://www.newsweek.com/its-not-just-hispanics-democrats-are-losing-black-vote-opinion-1702581

Half of G.O.P. Voters Ready to Leave Trump Behind, Poll Finds.

About half of Americans think former President Donald Trump should face criminal charges for his role in the deadly insurrection that took place at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Yes

Then your avowed blind loyalty extends to supporting Trump’s demand that he be immediately reinstated as POTUS or that an election be held ASAP.

Yes?

I think you’re doing a fine job illustrating Biden’s point.

Trump is more than an apprentice when it comes to throwing insults at his opposition.

Then your avowed blind loyalty extends to supporting Trump’s demand that he be immediately reinstated as POTUS or that an election be held ASAP. 

If you think he seriously meant that, then you fell for it hook line and sinker! Lol

I think you’re doing a fine job illustrating Biden’s point.

No, Biden is doing a fantastic job at helping to elevate Trump.

you realize Reagan would be a RINO to todays National Populist party, right?

Well, JFK would be too conservative for any Democrat progressive today.

For Gods sake Bass, dump Donald, throw your support behind DeSantis who may well win and will give you pretty much the same policy platform.

This is the problem with the left and even some of the establishment right, always trying to tell people what to think, what to like, how to live, how to eat. How about this, just let adults decide for themselves and everyone worries about themselves.

why does it have to be a Benito Mussolini not-so-wannabe? Why?

There is no Mussolini, now Biden’s speech the other day…..you guys are going in the weeds now, stay focused.

“Biden again attacks 'MAGA' GOP members of Congress, 'full of anger, violence and hate,' in Labor Day speech”

yep the great divider.

well congrats, your man has convinced at least 81 million Americans that he is precisely that

And the other half of Americans 74 million feel the same about Biden.

the real news is above not the childish Biden name calling article chosen here.

It’s a cover up!

Dont worry, the best is yet to come.

The DOJ had "arguably overstate[d] the law," Cannon wrote, when asserting that executive privilege had no "role to play here because Plaintiff -- a former head of the Executive Branch -- is entirely foreclosed from successfully asserting executive privilege against the current Executive Branch."

"The Supreme Court did not rule out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters," Cannon wrote.

much more important than Biden calling half of America “trumpies”. Did he say he would be a president for ALL Americans? Guess that was a lie. Among many other lies.

And the other half of Americans 74 million feel the same about Biden.

Well, where to begin.

First of all, 74 million is not 1/2 of the population, nor 1/2 of the voting age population, and LEAST of all not 1/2 of those who voted. So, not 1/2 in any way shape or form.

Secondly, I would guess/wager/bet that it's not 74 million anymore either. That number included some Republicans and independents that held their nose and voted for "less intelligent Voldemort", but after watching an attempted coup on live tv, said "Nope, I am done with that (insert unprintable pronoun here)!"

So when his rubes talk 1/2, poll after poll show that it is somewhere around 30% of the electorate an possibly less. That is not 1/2. In fact, it's not even a plurality.

And the other half of Americans 74 million feel the same about Biden.

74 is 7 less than 81. Majority wins.

Well, where to begin. 

First of all, 74 million is not 1/2 of the population, nor 1/2 of the voting age population, and LEAST of all not 1/2 of those who voted. So, not 1/2 in any way shape or form.

Well, if that even remotely based on reality, the Dems would retain House without a blurb.

Secondly, I would guess/wager/bet that it's not 74 million anymore either.

Then you can 81 million didn’t vote for the current President.

That number included some Republicans and independents that held their nose and voted for "less intelligent Voldemort",

Who?

So when his rubes talk 1/2, poll after poll show that it is somewhere around 30%

According to liberal math, but yeah, just like this constant drivel from this President that there’s no inflation.

That is exactly how the right feels about the left as well.

Actually Bass, if you scroll up Dagon gives you an actual left leaning opinion about Biden.

Biden and his neo-liberal compatriots in the Democratic Party's assisting in the weakening of the US labor movement and union rights is one of the leading factors towards the rise of Trumpist extremism.

once again, using Lou Dobbs as the middle point in the left/right split is just factually wrong

Right on and kudos for actually getting it.

Most of the ones on these threads opposing Trump seem to be center right, Republicans even who are repulsed by Trump.

But the Trumpist shtick is repetition of "radical, progressive ,leftist, socialist" to anyone in opposition to their agenda.

In his Labour Day speech, Biden only mentioned Trump once.

"Republicans passed a $2 trillion tax cut mainly benefiting the wealthiest corporations under the Trump administration. Put us —"

"By the way, it increased the debt by $2 trillion. "

"But here’s the point: The biggest contrast from what MAGA Republicans — the extreme right, the — the “Trumpies” — they want to go to — these MAGA Republicans in Congress are coming for your Social Security as well. "

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/09/05/remarks-by-president-biden-celebrating-labor-day-and-the-dignity-of-american-workers/

First of all, 74 million is not 1/2 of the population, nor 1/2 of the voting age population, and LEAST of all not 1/2 of those who voted. So, not 1/2 in any way shape or form.

Well, if that even remotely based on reality, the Dems would retain House without a blurb.

An intelligent person would not count chickens before hatching.

It is likely that the GOP will win the House, but size of the "wave" is in question. Furthermore, it is likely that the Senate remains Democratic.

Of course, I made this point yesterday vis-a-vis indictments, but that point was lost on Silly b as well.

Biden did not insult Trump. Trump last Saturday at his rally threw many insults at Biden.

Trump mentions Biden 20 times.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-speaks-at-dr-oz-rally-in-pennsylvania-transcript

So where is this mandate he thinks he has?

In the constitution as elected President of the United States of America.

The crowd jeered as Biden chided Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin 

The reality is in the article:

With inflation still raging and the president’s approval ratings remaining low, how much Biden can help his party in top races — and how much candidates want him to try — remains to be seen.

That was on display in Wisconsin, where Democratic Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes is trying to unseat incumbent Sen. Johnson, but did not appear with him in Milwaukee.

so Trump spoke on your behalf and on behalf of all Americans for the 4 years he was president? Interesting.

In the constitution as elected President of the United States of America.

so Trump spoke on your behalf and on behalf of all Americans for the 4 years he was president? Interesting.

It’s interesting that you are just now finding out how the US government works.

I’m not American, so no, he didn’t speak for me. But during his term he did represent all Americans. Poorly, but that was his job and why he didn’t get another shot at it.

In an under-reported (because of the feces-show the rest of the speech was) item, Trump falsely claimed that not only does Fetterman support the wholesale legalization of all Class-1 narcotics (Heroine, meth, etc.), but explicitly stated without a shred of proof (or sanity) that Fetterman is currently using one or more of said drugs. 

Let’s if the spoiled Fetterman is a real man and will debate Oz, then we will know.

I cannot recall a time that the so-called leader of one of the 2 major political parties accused the nominee for office of another party a drug addict. 

Hey, the Dems accused Trump of everything except cannibalism, and if they could persuade people into believing that, they would leave him with that as well.

so Trump spoke on your behalf and on behalf of all Americans for the 4 years he was president?

He spoke as President for 4 years (then lost in a landslide, but I know you don't like to talk about that part.), but not on my behalf and he was an embarrassment to be tolerated and recovered from, not something to be celebrated, much less repeated.

Fortunately, every time he opens his pie-hole for anything other than another scoop of ice cream, he not only increases his legal risk, but reminds anyone with an inkling of sanity or decency why he was unceremoniously shown the door.

I’m not American,

exactly.

Let’s if the spoiled Fetterman is a real man and will debate Oz, then we will know.

This would not answer the question of if Fetterman is a drug addict, although it might be nice to see Memet the muppet stand next to an actual Pennsylvanian on camera for comparison's sake.

I also think that he should debate Oz. He doesn't need to be perfect. He needs to be real which is a damn sight more than the TV medical miracle of the week peddler is on his best Cruddite day.

But strictly speaking, he doesn't need to because he is giving Oz the ass-whipping of the cycle.

He should debate. He might actually debate. But in a nod to political reality, he probably doesn't need to in order for Doc. Oz to feel like he had surgery without any anesthesia.

Trump increased the National Debt by $7 trillion during his single term.

For funding the wall and we building the military as it was so depleted and the more lies from his previous administration, not to mention to back small businesses which is a corner stone in the might of the American economy, and it would have been lower had covid not hit the planet.

Biden has increased the National Debt by ¥2 trillion.

On Oct. 1, 2021, at the end of fiscal year 2021, the national debt was $28.4 trillion. Between the end of fiscal year 2020 and the end of fiscal year 2021, the national debt grew $1.5 trillion, a 5.6% increase year over year. For fiscal year 2022, President Joe Biden's budget included a deficit of $1.84 trillion, and by August 2022, the national debt had grown to $30.8 trillion.

The total national debt did go up by $7.8 trillionduring Trump’s four years. It rose from nearly $20 trillion the day Trump was inaugurated to nearly $27.8 trillion on the day he left office.

That figure, however, includes money the U.S. owes to itself. We typically use figures for the amount of debt held by the public, which went up by $7.2 trillion during Trump’s time in office. Debt held by the public went up by $8.1 trillion during the eight years of former President Barack Obama and Vice President Biden.

-Politifact

I’m not American,

exactly.

So, you see, Biden speaks for you, not for me. He’s your President.

I like him though. Much better than the last guy. Clearly you don’t but that’s the system you’re a part of.

This would not answer the question of if Fetterman is a drug addict,

it would answer a lot of things, if you’re going to run for office, people need to know who they’re voting for and just throwing pot shots at a candidate that you don’t like is easy, but can you debate the issues? And that’s what people want to know and that’s not what people have been seeing so far in Fetterman.

although it might be nice to see Memet the muppet stand next to an actual Pennsylvanian on camera for comparison's sake. 

Ok, insults and personal attacks on Oz is not helping Fetterman, if he’s so good and think he’s the best candidate and competent and wants to dispel the myth that he’s a spoiled adult that lives with his parents until a few years ago, then he should Explain and show people why he should be chosen as the next senator of that state, and why he stands for his radical socialist policies.

I also think that he should debate Oz. He doesn't need to be perfect. He needs to be real

I agree, let’s see what he thinks about the out of control crime problem And the growing number of people dying from fentanyl

He should debate.

Well, we finally agree on something for once.