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Biden lifts abortion referral ban on family planning clinics

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Known as Title X, the taxpayer-funded program makes available more than $250 million a year to clinics to provide birth control and basic health care services mainly to low-income women. 

That second part, “basic health care services”, is a euphemism for chopping up children into pieces and vacuuming them out of the womb for disposal. Yes, that’s really what biden wants all Americans to pay for. Cold and heartless.

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Most Americans support access to abortion, so this makes sense.

Don't want abortion... Get a vasectomy.

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A fetus is not a child until it can support outside of the mother.

Still a human being- especially when it has a heartbeat and brain function.

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I have no problem with this. It should be left up to the health care provider. However, it should also not be mandatory for the provider to give a referral to an abortion clinic. Works both ways, makes both sides equally unhappy. The essence of compromise.

Zichi, what do you mean specificallly by "support outside of the mother"? That seems to be a very vague standard. Even full term delivered babies cannot support themselves for any length of time.

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That second part, “basic health care services”, is a euphemism for chopping up children into pieces and vacuuming them out of the womb for disposal. Yes, that’s really what biden wants all Americans to pay for. Cold and heartless.

It includes prenatal care, birth control, reproductive health and education. Planned Parenthood does a lot more than just abortions. The right doesn't even want women to be able to prevent a pregnancy or understand how their bodies work thinking everything about sex is somehow shameful. It's an old way of thinking rooted in two thousand year old Middle Eastern fairy tales instead of actual scientific knowledge.

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Zichi, what do you mean specificallly by "support outside of the mother

If he fetus could not possibly survive outside the mother if, say, it was born prematurely or the mother had to have an emergency c-section to prevent the fetus' death or perhaps in the event she was about to die. Jewish tradition does not consider a fetus to be a human until it is out of the woman's body. Even organized Christianity didn't opposed abortion until it became a political wedge issue. Fifty or sixty years ago there was no organized opposition and it was not illegal anywhere.

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The Repubs are really committing political suicide when they signed on to these hard-core abortion bans...

Abortion before 15 weeks is supported broadly across the country, but especially with women and independents...

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/06/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases/

And this restriction on an abortion in cases of rape or incest is crazy - even a majority of self-identified Repubs favor that along with 77% of Americans...

https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-us-news-ap-top-news-elections-84a47d2e26d4419c8b616db5c5f0fa6d

Keep at it Repubs - show US voters that you're nothing but a far-right fringe cult....

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Tortoise: According to a previous PP president Dr. Leana Wen,  “Our core mission is providing, protecting and expanding access to abortion and reproductive health care.” So abortion, and more of them, is number one with PP. By contrast, they make very few adoption referrals, wonder why?

I am in with the right, and I don't know anyone who is against birth control or biological education or thinks that sex is shameful. You are strawmanning quite crudely.

Most fetuses cannot survive outside the mother, whether born prematurely or not. Newborns cannot survive long alone. So what is your point?

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Zichi, I am with you to a point. The Texas law should have exceptions as you said. If those exceptions were made, would you then support it?

As to your viability clarification, thanks. Seems you think being at least temporarily self sustaining is the key- able to breathe, eat (if provided nutrition). Am I paraphrasing you accurately?

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The right doesn't even want women to be able to prevent a pregnancy or understand how their bodies work thinking everything about sex is somehow shameful. 

Oh nooo! Families should definitely educate their children about themselves and the opposite sex. Sexually active people should use the birth control of their choice. If a woman is raped she should go right away to the hospital and take any medication available to prevent pregnancy.

I understand that the world isn’t a perfect place and women can be placed in difficult situations. Yet an unborn child with a heart beat, brain activity is not insignificant. She is a sentient human and should at least get due process before purposefully having its life ended.

The fact that so many find it so easy to deny the humanity of a human child is really unbelievable to me. There was a time when the majority of people thought slavery was perfectly normal as well. But there was always a segment of the population who could see it for what it really was - an abomination. That’s how I see those that see no problem with abortion all the way up into the third trimester. They are blind to their own callous inhumanity.

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Whether for or against abortion is not the point for me. I support the right of the woman to decide what happens to her body.

Should a healthy unborn baby girl, at say, six and a half months gestation, have a right to decide what happens to her body too? Can there at least be due process like there is for children whose parents are found to be abusive to them? The eagerness to dismiss all unborn human beings, even preemies who can survive in an incubator - the American Left in particular is like a death cult.

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Wolfpack

Whether for or against abortion is not the point for me. I support the right of the woman to decide what happens to her body.

Should a healthy unborn baby girl, at say, six and a half months gestation, have a right to decide what happens to her body too?

It's kind of a moot point, because an abortion would be illegal at that point as well, because the foetus is viable and could live if born.

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US abortion law debate is getting heated up.

Abortion involves scientific fact on one hand, & religious faith on the other.

Therefore..

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Wolfpack

The right doesn't even want women to be able to prevent a pregnancy or understand how their bodies work thinking everything about sex is somehow shameful. 

I understand that the world isn’t a perfect place and women can be placed in difficult situations. Yet an unborn child with a heart beat, brain activity is not insignificant. She is a sentient human and should at least get due process before purposefully having its life ended. 

The fact that so many find it so easy to deny the humanity of a human child is really unbelievable to me.

A large majority of Americans support abortion, which is understandable because a foetus has no life experience and would die outside of the mother. It isn't a child. It's a foetus.

There was a time when the majority of people thought slavery was perfectly normal as well. But there was always a segment of the population who could see it for what it really was - an abomination. 

Yes, and there was a time when people thought it was perfectly normal to deny women autonomy over their own bodies. Thankfully, we live in more enlightened times.

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It looks like Row vs Wade will be up for interpretation in early December after a challenge on Mississippi law banning abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.

The GOP better pray that Row vs Wade doesn't get overturned, because they can wave goodbye to the midterms and the next presidential race if that happens.

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