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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2020.Big South Carolina win gives Joe Biden campaign new life; Super Tuesday showdown awaits
By Trevor Hunnicutt and John Whitesides COLUMBIA, SC©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Toasted Heretic
Russia, if you're listening...
bass4funk
I hops so as well, be easier for Trump to beat him. There’s no way the country is going to vote for a socialist.
FizzBit
Bernie’s not doing so well this time around, percentage wise, with 7-8 candidates instead of just two like in 2016. He might not get the nomination which hands it to the superdelegates. And we all know who they work for.
So you’re not so immune to conspiracy theories after all? Good to see.
lincolnman
Trump and his supporters yesterday: "Socialist, Socialist, Socialist!"
Trump and his supporters today: "Burisma, Burisma, Burisma!!"
What Dems need to say clearly and consistently: "Facist, Facist, Facist!"
FizzBit
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, or just some lonely ANTIFA in moms basement.
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lincolnman
Uh-huh - so who said "the media is the enemy of the people"?
Don Jr?
Wolfpack
Super Tuesday- just three days off - will give us a clear direction to the Dem race.
Serrano
An outpouring of black voter support propelled Joe Biden to a convincing victory
Look at the alternatives. Bernie. Bloomberg. Buttigieg. Warren. Klobuchar. Steyer.
It doesn't matter who the Democrats nominate ( they're too dumb to nominate their best candidate by far, Tulsi Gabbard ). In 2016 Trump won the election with 8% of the black vote. He's going to get at least double that in Nov., maybe 20%. There is no math for the Democrats. Unless they can whip up the coronavirus panic to the point where it really tanks the economy, plus Trump gets us into an unnecessary war.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
Maybe so. But Bernie isn't a socialist. His policies are normal in the rest of the world. Is Germany's government socialist? Their policies are in line with Bernie's.
Jimizo
Among the nutcase claims about Obama ( not a US citizen, born in Kenya, a Muslim Brotherhood plant, the anti-Christ ) was the claim he was a socialist. You called him a socialist dictator.
The US voted twice for this ‘socialist’.
Serrano
Bernie isn't a socialist.
You'd better tell Bernie that, he openly admits he's a socialist, though he calls it "democratic-socialist."
His policies are normal in the rest of the world. Is Germany's government socialist? Their policies are in line with Bernie's.
His policies are in line with with those of Venezuela, not Germany's. He wants a government takeover of the means of production and healthcare, eliminating private insurance. Germany doesn't do that.
Jimizo
Are you sure? Please post a link where he says this. I emphasize ‘he’. No Tucker Carlson or gibbering crackpots in basements links.
lincolnman
You better tell Trump that - he just said he's going to increase his socialist subsides to farmers...
Trump is closer to Bernie's socialist positions than Biden...
Don't know about that - they elected a fascist in 2016...
Wolfpack
Now it’s down to a replay of 2016 with the establishment candidate vs Bernie Sanders. The difference at this point is that Biden isn’t in as strong a position as Hillary Clinton was four years ago. Conventional wisdom is that a Socialist can’t win in America. For the sake of the Constitution one would hope that’s true. However conventional wisdom was that a billionaire businessman man reality television personality could not win either.
American politics at the presidential level is nowadays reactive. The next president is a swing further in the opposite direction. It will be difficult for Biden to win with the Hillary playbook. He will have to go further Left towards Sanders. He would still have to contend with the idea prevalent on the far Left that the establishment and the media have been nefariously undermining Sanders leaving the motivated activists in the party disheartened and less likely to come out to vote for Biden in November.
Wolfpack
Which of the near 80 year old Socialist white heterosexual men will the Dems choose to take on a president if the same generation in the general election? The party of diversity have so many choices I don’t know how they will decide.
theFu
Today, as a voter in America, I'd vote for President in this order:
1) Biden
2) Trump
3) Any other Democrat
20) Sanders
Sanders won't be able to accomplish anything. He's just like Trump, but at least Congress and Courts are mobilized to stop dumb Trump ideas.
The country seems to do well when Congress is Republicans and the President is a Democrat. Too much control by any single party is bad for America.
Halwick
Sanders will get what he wants if he replaces Pelosi with AOC as House Speaker. and the Senate swinging back to the Democrats with a socialist as Senate Majority Leader (Kamela Harris maybe?)
(Heaven forbid at the thought)
Not necessarily.
In 1932 the U.S. elected a Democrat President and the Democrat Party controlled both House and Senate. Roosevelt accomplished a great deal.
His administration immediately turned to the left (much to the delight to the American Communist Party and Socialist Party) and started the U.S. down the road toward socialism. Many Americans, at the time, believed it was necessary for the House and Senate to be aligned with Roosevelt in order for Roosevelt to implement his plans and get the country back to recovery.
If the Republicans held onto the Congress and Senate in 1932, Roosevelt would have had a very difficult time implementing his programs, if any.
In order to accomplish anything In politics you have to get everybody agreeing and focusing on the same objectives and rowing in the same direction. Otherwise you'll be rowing around in circles and getting nowhere.
Halwick
I believe the Democrat National Convention is heading toward a brokered convention. I'll bet Hillary Clinton is working quietly behind the scene lining up delegate votes where by convention time she will be nominated as the only person who can "save the party and beat Trump."
Biden is not charismatic and strong enough to beat Trump. Sanders and Warren are too far left (to the average American voter) to win. Buttigieg is too young and the country is not ready for an openly gay President. Bloomberg....is a wild card.
Coupled with a potential recession now in the works (which the Democrats are gleefully hoping for), Hillary....or whoever the Democrats select....will win in 2020 along with Democrats retaining the House and gaining back the control of the Senate. After all, back in 2008 that's how Obama got elected.
But given the choices, I'll vote for Trump as I don't like the direction the Democrat Party is heading and don't agree with their positions. And I don't see the Democrat Party being open and honest with the American people about the hidden costs and ramifications of their "Green New Deal", "Medicare For All", etc.
Serrano
Are you sure? Please post a link where he says this
Well of course he's not actually going to say that, but when he praises the Venezuela government, it's not rocket science to figure out that's what he wants.
You better tell Trump that - he just said he's going to increase his socialist subsides to farmers...
Yeah sure, and if he didn't help out the farmers you'd be saying he hates the farmers.
Today, as a voter in America, I'd vote for President in this order:
1) Biden
Why Biden?