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Buffalo shooter targeted Black neighborhood, officials say

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By CAROLYN THOMPSON and MICHAEL BALSAMO

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Until we stop the diversion of chasing guns and start really focusing on the shooter, we will not be successful in addressing this problem.

Perhaps there should be a specific tax on guns and ammunition that goes directly towards funding the mental health teams.

It is clear from this incident that it is the shooter and not the gun that is the problem

Access to firearms is always part of the problem.

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Don't you realize yet that these weapons and just about anything can be obtained on the black market streets of USA ?

The assault rifle was legally purchased.

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Don't you realize yet that these weapons and just about anything can be obtained on the black market streets of USA ?

Are you saying only The USA has black markets? Why doesn’t this happen in other countries? Only the USA has mental illness?

“Nothing can be done”.

Same again next week.

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Don't you realize yet that these weapons and just about anything can be obtained on the black market streets of USA ?

The Buffalo shooter purchased his firearms legally, although he did illegally modify the rifle to accept a larger magazine, which he probably bought in Pennsylvania due to New York's magazine capacity limit.

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Yep, you have a situation where a disturbed 18 year-old with a recent history of mental disturbance and of making violent threats can still somehow legally obtain a gun and cause this kind of mayhem, and there are still some people who react to it by trying to deflect attention away from the fact that it is precisely the equation of Shooter+Gun that is the problem. As someone said yesterday, you wouldn’t put it past some US gun law reform opponents to claim that this kid could’ve done as much damage with a butter knife.

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So much for background checks.

Yes. Although he did obviously pass (for lack of a better word) the mental health evaluation as no further action was taken.

At any rate, the NICS background check is laughable. Among other problems with it, from more than 230 million checks made since it went online in 1998, only 1.3 million denials have been made, according to the FBI. State participation is not mandatory (currently, only 30 states actively participate and in many jurisdictions even within those states the authorities actively DO NOT participate). It is a data-driven input system and it is believed that states and others fail to input legally allowable information. Also, there are legal barriers to reporting health information to NICS, such as mental illness.

For example, the Charleston church shooter should have failed his background check because of a drug offense, but it hadn't been recorded and the sale proceeded. He went on to kill nine people. Also the Virginia Tech shooter, who had been declared a danger to himself by a court, passed TWO background checks. 33 killed.

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Quote from above: "The shooter, identified as Payton Gendron, had previously threatened a shooting at his high school, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. Buffalo Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia confirmed at a press conference that the then-17-year-old was brought in for a mental health evaluation afterward."

This kid was obviously a serious mental case. Yet he could still get a semi-automatic rifle and ammunition. Something is seriously wrong.

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The US is definitely not a good role model for how different peoples can co-exist.

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He’ll be begging for segregation when it’s sentencing time or he’s going to have a very miserable time in prison.

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So much for background checks. There is no way that this person should have had access to firearms. His recent background of mental illness including hospitalization and threats known to the government should have popped up somewhere. It is clear from this incident that it is the shooter and not the gun that is the problem. Background checks are largely a feel good exercise, if we can't find someone like this shooter. Whomever provided him access to firearms and knew about his background is an accomplice. Until we stop the diversion of chasing guns and start really focusing on the shooter, we will not be successful in addressing this problem.

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I feel sad for the victims.

Exactly

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I'm guessing perceived white victimization played a hand in it, too.

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I’m guessing this 18 year old was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. He’s right at the age where the brain malfunction starts to really kick in. 

Very sad.

I feel sad for the victims.

I’ve seen some posts about his manifesto and it looks like he uses the same white power symbol as the AZOV A30B Battalion.

Maybe they have paranoid schizophrenia too. Very sad?

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@Avenger

Background check ?

Don't you realize yet that these weapons and just about anything can be obtained on the black market streets of USA ?

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lincolnman 10:45 am JST

As the US continues to assist Ukraine, will there be more of these white nationalist attacks?

Probably. In 2013 a Ukrainian neo-Nazi who'd been in the UK for just five days murdered an 83 year old man and bombed three mosques in Birmingham.

"During his police interviews, the Ukrainian student made no secret of his motive. "Racism," he said. "I would like to increase racial conflict because they are not white and I am white."

The software engineer had only been in the UK for five days when he stabbed to death Mohammed Saleem on the streets of Small Heath in Birmingham. He went on to launch three bomb attacks on mosques - and detectives believe he would have done it again had he not been discovered."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-24586050

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I’m guessing this 18 year old was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. He’s right at the age where the brain malfunction starts to really kick in.

Very sad.

Federal authorities were still working to confirm the authenticity of a racist 180-page manifesto that detailed the plot and identified Gendron by name as the gunman. A preliminary investigation found Gendron had repeatedly visited sites espousing white supremacist ideologies and race-based conspiracy theories and extensively researched the 2019 mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the man who killed dozens at a summer camp in Norway in 2011, the law enforcement official told AP.

I’ve seen some posts about his manifesto and it looks like he uses the same white power symbol as the AZOV A30B Battalion.

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its not the least bit unusual that both the manifesto and the video are censored from being able to view in their entirety?

So we have to rely on an untruthful media to tell us what it says, little by little, as it support the narrative of the day. CNN has it, why dont we?

Manifesto is more of a left wing thing anyway. thats why when the FBI and their informant tried to get the guy they coerced into the false "Whitmer kidnapping plot" to write down a manifesto, he said "what?"

So this kid wrote 180 pages by himself. and is the

"when I was 12 I was deep into Communist ideology.....I fall into the mild moderate left category...." portion of the manifesto real or fake?

sure would be nice to be able to read it ourselves and see, wouldnt it?

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All lives matter !

Besides two white people were also killed.

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