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South Korea reported 60 more cases of the new virus, bringing its total to 893. Cases there now outnumber Japan, where many cases were detected among passengers and crew on a cruise ship.

Wait. Are we counting the cruise illnesses as part of Japan now? This is getting confusing

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But “for the moment we’re not witnessing the uncontained global spread of this virus,” he said.

How much does this have to escalate before it reaches this level?

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I've been checking out this website for updates on COVID-19. It's updated every few hours.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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ARIRANG NEWS reporting on Japan counts the cruise ship as part of Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wXz31CSYWc

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This following link was working fine since January 20, 2020 and then suddenly around 12 hours ago when the virus spread like crazy to Iran, Italy and the numbers jumped in South Korea, the website stopped working.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

I really hope it's just a glitch and they'll get it working again soon.

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It just amazes me that China knew of this virus in late December and didn't tell WHO and allowed huge public gatherings in Wuhan and then allowed millions to travel!

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It just amazes me that China knew of this virus in late December and didn't tell WHO and allowed huge public gatherings in Wuhan and then allowed millions to travel!

Absolutely! American thought leaders weigh more on that and other things..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXJULe-9a0

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"South Korea reported 60 more cases of the new virus, bringing its total to 893. Cases there now outnumber Japan,"

That should read, "confirmed cases there now outnumber Japan."

I have little doubt that there are more than 893 cases floating around in Hokkaido alone, given how broadly and randomly it's been popping up.

Aly, the cruise ship will usually be counted separately, as all those infections happened in isolation to the rest of the country, especially when people are talking about or looking at the spread of the infection. If you are discussing the healthcare load and capacity of hospitals, it makes sense to lump them together with domestically acquired cases.

For the time that everyone was isolated on the cruise ship, they weren't mixing with the rest of the population and that cluster was not the source of all the other mini clusters popping up everywhere. Of course, now that people were allowed off the ship and into onto trains and buses with the rest of us, they may contribute to additional domestic spread.

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KnowBetter

it's working for me. Try from the main site systems.jhu.edu and click the link for Tracking COVID-19

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Chicanoinjapan

thanks for the link. There's a nice breakdown of the Ro value showing COVID-19 between the flu (1.3) and surpassing SARS (2.0) with a range of 1.5 to 3.5

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Aly, the cruise ship will usually be counted separately, as all those infections happened in isolation to the rest of the country, especially when people are talking about or looking at the spread of the infection. If you are discussing the healthcare load and capacity of hospitals, it makes sense to lump them together with domestically acquired cases.

> For the time that everyone was isolated on the cruise ship, they weren't mixing with the rest of the population and that cluster was not the source of all the other mini clusters popping up everywhere. Of course, now that people were allowed off the ship and into onto trains and buses with the rest of us, they may contribute to additional domestic spread.

thanks taj!

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I think we are beyond the phase of "keeping score" or trying to show that one country has more cases than another.

This is now global and is nearing the definition of a pandemic.

How deadly it is seems to now be the biggest question. It seems to be much less deadly than SARS but more deadly than the flu (how much is unknown)

The way China reacted in the beginning is still troublesome (scary) as the extreme reaction makes me feel there is something we still do not know about this. They would not do something so destructive to their economy without a very good reason.

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I am starting to see this virus as a potential lethal bio weapon. Imagine it. Just for 1 infection to appear in a city and the whole nation goes on full alert and cities goes on lock down. Ban on travel, stores close, cancelation of events and the economy goes downhill. All companies production are shut down and stock market prices drop. This seems pretty dangerous. And somehow this virus is now spreading in so many nations without them finding the cause of it and it is happening so fast. I am kinda worried what will happen to the world after a few months. The damages cause by it is not pretty.

Thanks the heaven we are not in the typhoon season. Otherwise the trouble we faces would be even harder than now.

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There is now considerable news talking about the origin of COVID-19 being an accidental resease from the level 4 Bioweapons facility in Wuhan. The spreading ability seems to outstrip previous coronavirus outbreaks. Personally I give this alot of credibility, although I outright reject the silly idea that any country, be it China or US, did this deliberately. The economic consequences for China and the rest of the world is simply enormous.

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I have little doubt that there are more than 893 cases floating around in Hokkaido alone, given how broadly and randomly it's been popping up.

and the same can be said about Italy, the US and Korea.

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Did you see the latest nut-job conspiracy theory being pushed by Freedom Medal winner and self-admitted white supremacist Limbaugh on the corona virus?

Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh claimed on his show Monday that the potentially lethal coronavirus afflicting several countries is nothing more than a “common cold” blown out of proportion by the media to take down President Donald Trump ― even as he also asserted it was a “bioweapon” created by China in a laboratory.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-coronavirus-trump_n_5e5458c8c5b65e0f11c53eac

What a complete and absolute idiot...

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ARIRANG NEWS reporting on Japan counts the cruise ship as part of Japan.

Of course it does, it is the Korean media. But the WHO and every else is counting separately, By the ship is owned by an American/UK company, hence it is American/UK property and hence it should go in America's and UK's tally.

Carnival is one of ten cruise line brands owned by the world's largest cruise ship operator, the American-British Carnival Corporation & plc

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Of course it does, it is the Korean media.

But the WHO and every else is counting separately,

because the WHO is playing politics

By the ship is owned by an American/UK company, hence it is American/UK property and hence it should go in America's and UK's tally.

Ridiculous. At least half the passengers are Japanese. Do you suggest they go on the UK and US tally too??

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What a complete and absolute idiot...

Its been my experience that most right wingers of any country are.

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Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh claimed on his show Monday that the potentially lethal coronavirus afflicting several countries is nothing more than a “common cold” blown out of proportion by the media to take down President Donald Trump ― even as he also asserted it was a “bioweapon” created by China in a laboratory.

There's a lot of this nonsense doing the rounds, a bioweapon, a biblical judgement and so on.

Limbaugh is poison. But he's also a Trump supporter, so expect the cult members to "rush" to his defence.

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The numbers are being reported are tiny.

50 here and 50 there.

That's nothing in terms of countries.

50 people per town would be an issue, 50 people per country is statistically incredibly small.

Flus and colds spread way faster than this.

Looking at the math, this thing is relatively minor.

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"ARIRANG NEWS reporting on Japan counts the cruise ship as part of Japan."

Of course they would. Koreans and their JT supporters cannot stand the fact that Korea is more infected than Japan, can they?

Those on the cruise ship are NOT Japan's cases; they were infected abroad. What if the ship was to sail for the US this afternoon?

Would they suddenly become US cases?

Some of you need to get a grip, with this serious case of Japan hate.

What matters is not Airgang News, your opinion, or the opinion of the entire gaijin contingent whose only wish is to "prove" that Japan has got more infected people than San Marino!

The rule comes from the WHO, the ship is counted SEPARATELY, whether gaijins likes it or not; they're "happy" to proclaim Japan's doom, yet not one is making plans to leave.

Hypocrisy at its best!

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Of course they would. Koreans and their JT supporters cannot stand the fact that Korea is more infected than Japan, can they?

Those on the cruise ship are NOT Japan's cases; they were infected abroad.

Most people infected with the virus were infected in China.

What if the ship was to sail for the US this afternoon?

> Would they suddenly become US cases?

The answer is yes. For example, the one death that was reported in the Philippines was of a Chinese man that was infected in China, came to the Philippines, and then died there. So it’s counted as a Philippine case. And by the way, those Americans that got off the ship and went home and were tested positive for the virus after reaching the United States off the ship, are US cases. So that answers your question

Some of you need to get a grip, with this serious case of Japan hate.

This has nothing to do with love or hate for this country. It has something to do with providing an accurate picture of what’s going on for all of our safety.

What matters is not Airgang News, your opinion, or the opinion of the entire gaijin contingent whose only wish is to "prove" that Japan has got more infected people than San Marino!

It’s not us who hate Japan but you that hates everyone who’s not Japanese.

The rule comes from the WHO, the ship is counted SEPARATELY, whether gaijins likes it or not; they're "happy" to proclaim Japan's doom, yet not one is making plans to leave.

Yeah if you want to listen to the WHO who proclaimed that there was no international health risk when there clearly was one. WHO is playing politics with both China and Japan. I will take everything they say with a grain of salt.

Hypocrisy at its best!

Look who’s talking

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South Korea now has the second-most cases in the world with 893 and has had a near 15-fold increase in reported infections in a week, as health workers continue to find batches in the southeastern city of Daegu and nearby areas, where panic has brought towns to an eerie standstill.

They rapid increase is because of the increased PCR testing, as of February 20 they are carrying out

5000 test per day to increase it this week to 13,000 test per day. Half hearted measures or urgings won't tame this beast.

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Moon, identify the sources of the virus as quick as possible.

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Looking at the math, this thing is relatively minor.

Korea carries out some 9300 tests today. Japan 37.

Korea has carried out some 43,000 tests so far. Japan some 1, 500.

I don’t know why you haven’t suggested this, but if we just stop the testing, the numbers won’t increase. We’ll have this thing under control.

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Peeping Tom

Of course they would. Koreans and their JT supporters cannot stand the fact that Korea is more infected than Japan, can they?

Korea is preemptively testing all those who came in contact with all known prior positive patients.

Basically, government officials come to your home/work and collect your sample if they determine that you came in contact with a known patient within 14 days. They do this by extracting geolocation data from infected patient's phone and matching the geolocation of general public.

Korea tested 30,000 people until yesterday, 900 people tested positive and 80% of positive cases currently don't have any symptom nor did they know they came in contact with infected people.

Japan by comparison is only testing only those who come to hospitals feeling ill. Japan so far tested 800 people and some 150 tested positive. So imagine what the positive number will be if Japan tested 30,000 people by backtracing like Korea's doing.

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Samit Basu,

I'm open to reason; if Korea is going the extra mile, then kudos to them.

My only "bone" is with malcontents who can only find fault, basically spitting where they eat. And there are lots on this site.

Not because I have any "greater love" for Japan; just can't stand hypocrisy.

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@Peeping_Tom

if Korea is going the extra mile, then kudos to them.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484487-south-korea-to-test-more-than-200000-church-members-for-virus

South Korea to test more than 200,000 church members for coronavirus

Do you trust a government that tests everyone whom they suspected of coming in contact with prior positive patients, or a government that only test who come to hospital feeling sick and then report that the case cannot be traced?

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if we are in a train with the infected near by, we will get the virus. Don’t matter if you are Japanese or foreigner, So we are concern about how J government is handling this Virus situation since most of have family or friends here in Japan

I am surprise that moderator let some of you get off the course like this and bashing other countries, bashing those speak against the J government, having our own opinions , I will continue to speak out if I see something wrong or I don’t agree with

OK. This article is about increase in virus cases in other countries, not we don’t care about US, Korea , who care about what Korea does, and not do ,

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