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China cuts off vital U.S. contacts over Pelosi Taiwan visit

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China stopped short of interrupting economic and trade talks, where it is looking to Biden to lift tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump on imports from China.

Probably not going to happen now. I actually see the opposite happening and Imposing additional tariffs on Chinese products as more and more American Companies flee China.

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CCP China - when it isn't covering up the world's worst pandemic outbreak it is threatening a democratically elected government in Taiwan, a country it has never controlled. Or it is committing genocide in Xinjiang against the Uyghurs, abusing the people of Tibet, breaking treaties and international human rights covenants in Hong Kong, illegally claiming the whole South China Sea when the International Court ruled against its ridiculous claims, threatening it's neighbors, stealing western intellectual property at an alarming rate, cheating at trade, interfering in the internal affairs of all countries, subverting freedom and democracy, censoring and repressing its own citizens or outright murdering them such as at Tiananmen Square, engaging in illegal and immoral criminal organ harvesting of political prisoners, etc, etc, etc. The world has had enough of the unelected CCP. Time to completely cut them off.

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China cut off contacts with the United States on vital issues Friday — including military matters and crucial climate cooperation — as concerns rose that the Communist government's hostile reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit could signal a lasting, more aggressive approach toward its U.S. rival and the self-ruled island.

Embarrassing hissy fit - behavior the exact opposite of a so-called "great nation" the CCP claims China to be...

Pelosi's visit has stirred emotions among the Chinese public, and the government's response “makes us feel our motherland is very powerful and gives us confidence that the return of Taiwan is the irresistible trend,” said Wang Lu, a tourist from neighboring Zhejiang province.

Too bad you don't have the confidence to let your people talk about Tienanmen Square in 1989...

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Boycott China. I've been telling y'all for years. Old Pooh Bear's micro-penis complex rivals only Tziny Vladimir's in the 2022's League of Authoritarians...

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Convenient how Pelosi decides to visit Taiwan when China clearly said it would retaliate, right before the mid-term elections when it looks like the dems will lose big time. They want to create war as a distraction. They will do whatever it takes to stay in power, even if it means war and death.

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I really wish every country would put a 200% tariff rate on anything imported from China. It would be better to start letting them taste in small increments what awaits them if they go ahead and invade Taiwan. It would be far better than the death and destruction of war. Let China know that they are living in a global community amd need to live by common rules.

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The world's leading green energy producer seems to have tired of the United States of Arrogance saying one thing while doing the opposite and it's population seems happy with the change.

I doubt if China is going to make the same mistakes America so often does, we're not like to see a replay of the Bay of Pigs (when the US attempted to return Cuba to it's control by sponsoring an overthrow of its government) but more likely the use of the subtle economic war on Taipei that the US used for decades to crush the independence movement in Puerto Rico.

We might also see China start using its economic clout and valued relationship with other countries to wage an aggressive war on America's economy. Imagine China actively working to increase inflation in the US while also using 'secondary sanctions' (you can choose to either buy from Chinese industry or do business with the US military and not be able to buy, even through third parties, from companies that want to either sell to or buy from the Chinese market)

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They’ll stamp their widdle feet a bit and there’ll be no dessert for a week but things will soon be back to normal.

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On the Chinese coast across from Taiwan, tourists gathered to try to catch a glimpse of military aircraft.

That’s the key part, it’s all a show meant for the brainwashed domestic audience.

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Richard Pearce - if China was half as awesome as you seem to think it is, wouldn’t the Taiwanese be clamoring to join up with them?

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lincolnmanToday  07:38 am JST

China cut off contacts with the United States on vital issues Friday — including military matters and crucial climate cooperation — as concerns rose that the Communist government's hostile reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit could signal a lasting, more aggressive approach toward its U.S. rival and the self-ruled island.

Embarrassing hissy fit - behavior the exact opposite of a so-called "great nation" the CCP claims China to be...

Taiwan IS the 'Republic of China', not 'People's Republic of China'. That means that Taiwan has its own government and you are not 'it'. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, CCP.

Pelosi's visit has stirred emotions among the Chinese public, and the government's response “makes us feel our motherland is very powerful and gives us confidence that the return of Taiwan is the irresistible trend,” said Wang Lu, a tourist from neighboring Zhejiang province.

Too bad you don't have the confidence to let your people talk about Tienanmen Square in 1989...

I remember seeing that sad event live on NBC-TV just before the CCP imposed a media blackout. And I saw the graphic pictures of the sickening event that were smuggled out too at my college. The CCP can't BS me.

Bob FosseToday  08:06 am JST

They’ll stamp their widdle feet a bit and there’ll be no dessert for a week but things will soon be back to normal.

Oh waaaaah, Xi. WAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! Why don't you do something prideful for your country like do your job to fight this pandemic, which is every nation's problem right now anyway. Stop your sobbing.

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China has such little wee wee energy on the world stage. Having power, using it effectively, and being a country others would strive to emulate is tough sure, but crying publicly that no one respects you and you'll burn them down with the fury of a million suns makes everyone eye roll instead of cower in fear.

Also their military being a weird amalgamation of stolen US and Russian designs is laughable.

In short, chill out China. Be the world leader you want to be, not the one who has a massive complex against proving yourself the tough guy.

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China does things with time, tactics and strategy, Pelosi's haughty, daring, brazen and reckless visit to the China's province of Taiwan will bring its consequences, it's a matter of time..

And yes, the China's province of Taiwan..

The resolution 2758, passed on October 25, 1971, recognized the People's Republic of China (PRC) as 'the sole legitimate representative of China to the United Nations..

181 countries in the world recognize the People's Republic of China as ONE CHINA including its Taiwan province..

Anti China whiners brigade on fire!!.. lol !!..

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China does things with time, tactics and strategy, Pelosi's haughty, daring, brazen and reckless visit to the China's province of Taiwan will bring its consequences, it's a matter of time..

ROFL, all the CCP does is kill people who speak out against them. So what you have is a billion strong brainwashed and scared population who don’t dare question the CCP on their lies!!!

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Whatever little credibility the CCP had was washed away with their brazen reneging on the agreement made with the UK on Hong Kong's turnover....

"The Sino-British Joint Declaration, which was signed in 1984, stipulates that Hong Kong would retain its high degree of autonomy, rights and freedoms for 50 years after the handover in 1997."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertolsen/2021/03/14/uk-says-china-breached-hong-kong-handover-treaty-for-third-time/?sh=7a4e0c0b2cb4

That's now laughable as Xi represses press freedoms and strips ordinary HK citizens of their rights, carting them off to jail or the gulag...

Taiwan, and the free world, know full well that Beijing can't be trusted...

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The scary part is how rabidly nationalistic the people of China are acting... the common man on the street.

Reportedly the Chinese govt (as crazed as they are acting now) have had to calm down the people on the street.

Christ...

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The scary part is how rabidly nationalistic the people of China are acting... the common man on the street.

A lot of them are CCP thugs, a few are the ones who want to be CCP thugs.

Ordinary Chinese don’t care too much about the CCP’s theatrics, they know that it’s xi trying to be another mao.

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What was the point of Mrs. Pelosi visit to Taiwan? and was it worth it?

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Anti China whiners brigade on fire!!.. lol !!..

No not really. Western businesses are pulling out of China as quickly as they can. This will devastate the Chinese economy that is already shaky.

China can’t bully the entire world like a spoiled child because an 82 year old woman visited Taiwan .

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Mark, the point? The visit has highlighted world wide the bullying behaviour of China towards a free, democratic, independent neighbour and China’s subsequent over reaction has highlighted it even further.

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this is just beginning.

as i wrote yesterday someone who thought that China will just sit and do nothing msut be or really very naive or completely out of picture.

if you are standing that hard for your "values" stop buy anything made in China and thorw away everything you have made in China.all of antichinese haters do so asap.

let me say honestly-China will survive without USA or Japan but not opposite as both countries depends hard up to chinese goods and products.

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Mark

What was the point of Mrs. Pelosi visit to Taiwan?

The point was for an elected leader of one sovereign nation to meet with a leader of another sovereign nation on the latter's soil, to give recognition of their sovereignty, and confirm their support of it.

and was it worth it?

It's always worth it to stand up to bullies, and show you are not afraid of them.

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as i wrote yesterday someone who thought that China will just sit and do nothing msut be or really very naive or completely out of picture.

I saw a lot of Chinese social media users slapping and punching themselves, so definitely agree they are not doing nothing.

let me say honestly-China will survive without USA or Japan but not opposite as both countries depends hard up to chinese goods and products.

No China cannot survive on its own, its a country built on a pyramid scheme and it’s all coming down right now.

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this is just beginning.

Of another bigger hissy fit?

as i wrote yesterday someone who thought that China will just sit and do nothing msut be or really very naive or completely out of picture.

If the CCP wants to spend their money sailing ships around the open sea and firing their missiles at empty ocean, more power to them...

if you are standing that hard for your "values" stop buy anything made in China and thorw away everything you have made in China.all of antichinese haters do so asap.

Typical CCP propaganda - everyone admires the Chinese people and culture, they can't stand the CCP that enslaves and subordinates them...

let me say honestly-China will survive without USA or Japan but not opposite as both countries depends hard up to chinese goods and products.

If you believe in honesty, go stand in the middle of Tienanmen Square and shout "Free the Uyghurs" while wearing a Winnie the Pooh T-Shirt....tell us how that works out for you...

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Like a crybaby having a hysterical temper tantrum.

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Presumably these live fire/missile drills, Taiwan Strait nautical chest beating, huff puffing indignation over congresses old mother hubbard visit and subsequent finger waging lecturing, will come to a conclusion Sunday.

I find remarkable that the Government of China could work itself to such a state of extreme paranoia/delusion when even the mention of egalitarian self-governing autonomy is voiced.

Taiwan has never presented a threat to the mainland.

And yet Xi Jinping has worked himself into raging contortions, spent days kicking the furniture, having full blown tantrums. This is a President that would benefit from some full on anger management therapy/treatment.

Before he has a stroke.

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I’m fully in support of Taiwan remaining free of CCP rule.

At the same time though, I really don’t see what Pelosi’s trip was intended to accomplish. The world is already on edge enough dealing with Russian aggression in Ukraine, the pandemic. a global food crisis, economic problems galore. Did we really need someone deciding to throw a new crisis between two superpowers over Taiwan into that mix right now?

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I saw a lot of Chinese social media users slapping and punching themselves,

What planet are you living on?

The reception that insider trader received in South Korea and Japan couldn't be more different. You can tell which one is more of a vassal state of the US.

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If the CCP wants to spend their money sailing ships around the open sea and firing their missiles at empty ocean, more power to them...

you do know SK and USA do this all the time to threaten NK with a one-two week drill costing an estimated $600 million?

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 I really don’t see what Pelosi’s trip was intended to accomplish.

The most important meeting on Pelosi’s agenda was not with the Taiwan government authorities and President Tsai Ing-wen but a meeting she specifically requested with the management of TSMC, which is the leading world manufacturer of the most advanced semiconductors. Most importantly, many chips made by TSMC are found in leading US applications and US defense industry weapons systems.

If Taiwan were to be re-united with the China, then the US would find itself between a rock and a hard place because all of the equipment, engineers, technology of TSMC would fall into the wrong hands and the PRC would know all about the chips in US defense systems and would know how to counter them. To use chips from a manufacturer vulnerable to China presents serious security issues.

For this reason, the US Congress has passed bills forcing TSMC to set chip fabs in Arizona and transferring their technology to the US, even though this is very much against the wishes of TSMC management. The TSMC management has repeatedly pointed out high costs and the lack of skillful engineers in the US; however, the US Commerce Department and US Congress don’t seem to understand or care because they are run by lawyers who are only good at issuing sanctions and threatening other countries through legislation and if that doesn’t work, with the power of the US military.

The US Congress, of which Pelosi is a representative, are not losing sleep about TSMC’s commercial success and profitability; they only care that China does not get its hands on TSMC’s fabs and engineers. This was the reason behind her request for meeting TSMC’s management while she was in Taiwan.

So, while Pelosi was preaching human rights, freedom and democracy, she was there to serve a warning to TSMC that they must step up their efforts to relocate their engineers and facilities to the US where they will be firmly under US control and free of threat from the PRC.

In other words, the US is already preparing for Taiwan’s seizure by the People’s Republic, while publicly telling the world that it must support Taiwan’s freedom and democracy. This is in fact a US recognition that China will eventually take over Taiwan, and reunifying Taiwan with the rest of China under the People’s Republic is only a matter of time.

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a meeting she specifically requested with the management of TSMC

You just know Pelosi is going to gain financially from this in one way or another. It's amazing how the richer people get, the greedier they get. The amount of money she and her drunk husband have made from insider trading must be astounding. Did anyone see that video of her when she was asked whether she did insider trading? She said no (moi?), laughed like a liar, and then actually pushed the mike down, as if to avoid letting the mike pick up anything incriminating she might say under her breath.

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China’s countermeasures after Pelosi’s visit are necessary, says Chinese FM in response to Western accusations of ‘overreaction’.

How could there be any overreaction when multiple warnings had been sounded clearly and precisely?

If she pretends to be deaf, then let her taste the bitterness of backlash..

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@RichardPearce

The world's leading green energy producer

=/= China

Far from green, it is the world's leading polluter.

https://climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/

Green energy = spade revolution, more mining, more intensive exploitation of earth's natural resources.

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Podcasts/All-Podcasts/2022/07/14/daniel-yergin

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If Taiwan were to be re-united with the China, 

You can figure out the indoctrination of a person by their words, no one outside of the CCP brainwashing system would say ‘reunite’.

China wants to invade but doesn’t have the courage to do it. All it’s bluster is for the internal brainwashed audience, China is a paper tiger and will remain so!!!

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China is going the Russia way, both xi and putin have created fantasies of themselves where they will be remembered for generations.

They will for sure, but more like how hitler is remembered today!!!

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China's problem is that it is built where everybody watches everybody, nobody feels safe, and everyone is ruled by fear. The party members think that because they are for the party, so are the rest of the people. But the majority of the people live in fear of the party, and only put on the party face because they have to.

Such a system is not great for building strong foundations. It's why USSR collapsed. If China actually tried to extend itself to take over Taiwan, it would cross a line the democratic world would not be willing to stand for, as seen by the world reaction to Ukraine, and this would put significant strain on the CCP not two years after they went through a trade war with America, followed by a devastating pandemic that has destroyed the image of China around the world, whether justified or through misinformation.

China is angry about Pelosi acknowledging that Taiwan is a free and independent nation, but China is also not in a position to do anything more than yell and stomp their feet at the moment. The CCP is smart enough to not pull a Russia after seeing what happened to Russia.

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There was an excellent Opinion piece in the NYTimes yesterday from a Taiwanese man, living in Taiwan, thanking Nancy Pelosi for coming to Taiwan. His point is that large democracies need to be banding together to stand up to China, and he's right. China is a bully that has the world by the ***** because so many democracies have factories there for cheap labor. At any time, China could do the same to Taiwan as it did to Hong Kong.

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The real litmus test will come Sunday when the Chinese Government drills/actions are due to end.

In all honestly, to behave with such aggressive acts of retribution simply because a politician states support for Taiwan Foundation for Democracy, that cannot possibly be mistaken as a declaration of war, is extreme and alarming.

If this deranged armed military response from the Government of China, by is own actions is a clear and present threat to any form of human rights, rule of law, or acceptance of any semblance of democratic society.

Then the Global community must decide a fitting response. Anything less would be appeasement, a route Great Britain learnt to its grave conclusion/outcome

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@starpunk

Emotional feedback on a timeless wavelength

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the Communist government's hostile reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit could signal a lasting, more aggressive approach toward its U.S. rival and the self-ruled island.

China again provoking the US and Taiwan with their outrageous claims and actions.

China is irrelevant and needs to be sanctioned, and all foreign companies must leave China while the world boycotts Chinese goods and services.

China, the disgusting country, thanks to its CCP leadership.

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I don't believe Nancy Pelosi visit was the brightest course of action, however when viewing the visit objectives in support of what is no more than a democracy celebrating the mandated freedoms such choice offers.

Highlights the military action Xi Jinping has taken is truly shocking and outrageous.

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Anything that makes China look foolish internationally, is good.

China doesn't want to start any war, but do carefully want to goad others into attacking China. I don't know what the line is, but China isn't ready for a war with Taiwan today. They'd like a few more years to prepare and be paid by the world for cheap consumer stuff that is filtered into the Chinese military. It would be better if Taiwan and other regional powers control the schedule.

In the meantime, I don't see how China pulling cooperation on international crime will make any difference. I see Chinese criminal activity daily against my systems. Constantly.

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