world

Defying critics, Trump salutes military in pomp-filled July 4 celebration

78 Comments
By Jeff Mason

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.

©2019 GPlusMedia Inc.

78 Comments

Comments have been disabled You can no longer respond to this thread.

Donny's celebrating himself. Let's not ever forget that he only cares about himself. Repugnant.

17 ( +27 / -10 )

Hmmmm.....from the looks of the thousands of people I would beg to differ.

-25 ( +9 / -34 )

Trump, a Republican who admired flashy displays of national pride 

Prior to his election Trump showed zero national pride. He 'prided' himself on stiffing governments at all level by being able to afford (thanks to his huge inheritance) hiring armies of high-priced accountants, lawyers and other fixers (how's Michael Cohen doing?) to ensure he paid the minimum - maybe less - in taxes.

How many in trump's family have served the US in any capacity in which they gave more back to the country than they took?

Trump's motto, the same one used by his daddy, the same used by his children, is 'Take as much as you can from the country, give as little as you can get away with, even if it's illegal.'

"The cost of our great Salute to America tomorrow will be very little compared to what it is worth

Great salute to Trump's ego and the military industrial complex. Has anyone seen Trump's latest tax info to see what his share of taxes for this might have been?

15 ( +20 / -5 )

Demented Donnie welcomes you to the alt right, Russian inspired, fairy tale world of the Trumpers 4th of July. It's not for all Americans, even though it is the celebration of the founding of our nation. No, it's just for "the believers" - those who can't make one sentence without the word "Lib" in it. Those who think Hillary Clinton is sitting in upstate NY and plotting a takeover of the US with Obama in 2020. Who think Putin is really a "nice guy".

Welcome to Donnie's national holiday celebration - a lewd, loonie Las Vegas lounge act just like his rallies.

What a disgrace and embarrassment...

11 ( +17 / -6 )

those who can't make one sentence without the word "Lib" in it. Those who think Hillary Clinton is sitting in upstate NY and plotting a takeover of the US with Obama in 2020. Who think Putin is really a "nice guy". 

What? Oh..lol

-15 ( +5 / -20 )

@bas4 Hmmmm.....from the looks of the thousands of people I would beg to differ.

Of course there are millions of Americans who enjoy military displays. Many of them equate being American with militarism.

Many of them are shareholders in one or more of the big war industries. The big war industry nabobs must be laughing in the faces of American taxpayers. They know the average American pays a greater share in taxes, but thanks to Trump and the GOP the nabobs pay less. Their salaries - and industries - are subsidized by the general public.

I'll bet few of those enjoying this have had to follow behind a tank and breathe its exhaust.

Given all the needs the US population have - healthcare, declining infrastructure, etc. etc. etc. - only Trump's hardest core followers can think this was a good use of tax dollars.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Of course there are millions of Americans who enjoy military displays. Many of them equate being American with militarism. 

And the majority don’t.

Many of them are shareholders in one or more of the big war industries. The big war industry nabobs must be laughing in the faces of American taxpayers. They know the average American pays a greater share in taxes, but thanks to Trump and the GOP the nabobs pay less. Their salaries - and industries - are subsidized by the general public.

Seems like the people didn’t mind.

I'll bet few of those enjoying this have had to follow behind a tank and breathe its exhaust.

Yaaawn...uh-huh.....

Given all the needs the US population have - healthcare, declining infrastructure, etc. etc. etc. - only Trump's hardest core followers can think this was a good use of tax dollars.

Democrats could never make a reasonable argument when it comes to wasting money.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42153/here-are-8-wasteful-things-democrats-have-voted-ashe-schow

-16 ( +5 / -21 )

bass4funkToday  08:40 am JST

"Of course there are millions of Americans who enjoy military displays. Many of them equate being American with militarism."

And the majority don’t.

But you don't speak for the majority of Americans. Just a strident, obnoxious bunch of right-wing nuts like yourself.

16 ( +20 / -4 )

Today, we celebrate Britain's greatest export: Americans.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Is the dump goose stepping in this pic? Probably took lessons from his russian puppet master. I would think this would send a chill up the spine of the first "so-called" lady considering Slovenia's history.

How long until we find out this pic of the crowd is photo shopped?

6 ( +9 / -3 )

It was glorious.

Trump, a Republican who admired flashy displays of national pride and military strength in France...

So it's OK for France to have these patriotic displays, but not the U.S.? Jeez...

-12 ( +5 / -17 )

"hachikoreloaded",

was thinking the same.

Looking at other pictures on various internet sites the "crowd" looked much smaller and not enthusiastic at all.

But Donnie wants it his way, "everything so tremendously beautiful, so great..." and so on.

He will never stick to the facts, 'cause it would be way to embarrassing!

4 ( +8 / -4 )

Bickering aside I don't see any tanks.

The 4th of July is meant to celebrate our freedom independence. Anyone who turns it into a lavish display of pomp and power is pure unamerican scum in my eyes. A barbeque, an American flag or two, and some fireworks....maybe even a speech and prayer...that's the 4th of July. If I were the president, all you would get is a short televised speech then I would ask you to excuse me as I join my family and close friends at the picnic table.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

SerranoToday  09:14 am JST

So it's OK for France to have these patriotic displays, but not the U.S.? Jeez...

I always thought your sort didn't want the US to be anything like European countries. Especially not... what do you like to call them, "cheese eating surrender monkeys" or something like that.

15 ( +19 / -4 )

How long until we find out this pic of the crowd is photo shopped?

It could well be real. Trump backers are probably still a minority, most likely made up of that 35% US fundamentalist group (found in most cultures?). Many seem to be rabid in their support for the wannabe-authoritarian who's representing their demographic and his faction of the .01%. 35% of the US population is still a lot of people.

Think about the size of Trump's rallies (subsidized by US taxpayers), and then recall how large the beer hall rallies got in the country Trump's father was/wasn't born in.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

I always thought your sort didn't want the US to be anything like European countries. Especially not... what do you like to call them, "cheese eating surrender monkeys" or something like that.

Following that logic, we can't ever eat cheese or drink wine or put Dijion mustard on our sandwiches. Jeez...

Trump backers are probably still a minority

Biden, Harris, Bernie and even Warren are all still leading Trump in the polls! Trump might as well concede now, eh?

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

Donnie looked extremely robotic today during his speech - he stayed glued to the teleprompter, leaning left, then leaning right. I'm assuming the dementia is getting worse...

It rained on his "I love me" parade today - both literally and figuratively...

7 ( +12 / -5 )

The total cost more than $100 million.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

If it wasn't political why then did Trump not send invitations to the democrats?

12 ( +14 / -2 )

"Tanks in the streets now? Shall we review the Dictator Checklist? You're a narcissist who likes to put his name on buildings...you appoint family members to key govt positions..your rallies are scary...you threaten to lock up political opponents..your friends are other dictators ."

Bill Maher

14 ( +16 / -2 )

A U.S. flag was burned in front of the White House.

Disgraceful.

@zichi - Anyone was welcome to attend.

-17 ( +2 / -19 )

"Tanks in the streets now? Shall we review the Dictator Checklist? You're a narcissist who likes to put his name on buildings...you appoint family members to key govt positions..your rallies are scary...you threaten to lock up political opponents..your friends are other dictators ."

Bill Maher

Pfffffffffft!

-16 ( +2 / -18 )

@zichi - Anyone was welcome to attend.

Ayone was able to attend the public areas but there was an invitation area which Trump send invitations only to republicans and their supporters.

Many Trump blimps were on display including Trump on a potty.

Trump falsely spurred his chance when asked to serve his country but now praises the military and its might, the biggest in the world costing $800 billion every year. Two out of five Amercan workers, work for the military machine.

Troops were told to reply to questions about the tanks, "I love my tank, I love the military!"

Very much a Trump Day.

11 ( +13 / -2 )

@Serrano

Every point Maher laid out is true. Trump's a narcissist Check, Trump loves to put his name on things Check , Trump appoints family members to key government positions Check , Trump's rallies are scary Check Trump threatens to lock up political opponents Check , Trump's friends are other dictators (Oh, yeah!) Check!

They're all true, Serrano, and you know it. If you disagree, which one is false?

You can't do it, can you?

14 ( +15 / -1 )

Donnie has certainly worked a lot of con-jobs and scams over his career - his joint scam with Putin to get elected was probably his best one.

But this whole fairly tale about him supporting the military ranks right up there in the Top 3. This is a guy who dodged the draft 5 times! He's a coward. He never talked about supporting the military or wanting to help Vets before starting his campaign in 2015. He didn't give one red cent about them - they didn't stay in Trump Resorts or buy Trump ties.

And then he goes and insults and denigrates John McCain's service to his country, engages in name-calling with a Gold Star family - a family who's son gave the ultimate sacrifice, and fires and disrespects one of our nation's greatest Generals - Jim Mattis.

Trump engages in false patriotism merely for political gain. He cares nothing about our military heroes - they're just another object for him to use to bamboozle his supporters.

Trump actually despises the military - because it has something his sick ego desperately craves but will never get - the respect and admiration of the nation.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Ayone was able to attend the public areas but there was an invitation area which Trump send invitations only to republicans and their supporters.

That’s OK, because most Democrats and Trump haters will want to go anyway, so no big deal about that.

Many Trump blimps were on display including Trump on a potty.

And they also got a permit that they couldn’t fly it, darn it.

Trump falsely spurred his chance when asked to serve his country but now praises the military and its might, the biggest in the world costing $800 billion every year. Two out of five Amercan workers, work for the military machine.

Ok and the point is?

Troops were told to reply to questions about the tanks, "I love my tank, I love the military!"

Very much a Trump Day.

Again that was fake news that the Liberals spun again I don’t know which of them started that but that was definitely not true because you had some people even in the military that voiced their opposition to this and they were some that voice their support for it but no one was commanded to say anything.

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

Why is it that the biggest draft dodgers always want the biggest military parades??

This is just a warm up for election day 2020 when Donny has the tanks on the streets to ensure things go the way he wants

9 ( +10 / -1 )

I thought military showing off was very much the norm in the US.  Don't they fly jets over lots of sporting and other social events?  And frequently have smaller scale versions of this in towns and cities?

The military are revered in US culture and so DT is not really that out of whack with public opinion here.  MAGA and all that.  If you spend almost a trillion dollars a year on "defence" why not show it off?

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Woe be it that my beloved country has been usurped by a lowbrow, manipulative demagogue.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

zichi wrote: Trump falsely spurred his chance when asked to serve his country

No American fighting in Vietnam was serving his country. They were serving the Military Industrial Complex. Lets be completely clear about that. Dodging Vietnam by any means was about the most patriotic thing a person could do at that time, but Muhammad Ali did it better for sure. I doubt patriotism was a factor in Captain Bone Spurs' decision making though.

lincolnman wrote: Donnie looked extremely robotic today during his speech

That is what happens when one is acting and trying to act completely out of character. His favorite book "My New World Order" surely told him what to do in theory but just reading a book won't have you doing it right in practice.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

And then he goes and insults and denigrates John McCain's service to his country,

McCain never served his country either. He was just a goon in a civilian-murdering jet in a foreign land he had no business being in. Mr. Bomb Bomb Iran deserved all shade cast his direction.

He never talked about supporting the military or wanting to help Vets

None of the above needs an ounce of extra support. They all have FAR too much already....unpatriotically so.

But yes, Trump is a faker and there is not a patriotic bone spur in his body. He loves money and power and himself and that's about it. He should be locked in his office all 4th of July so that Americans can contemplate what actual patriotism is and isn't. Its love of country....not military prowess and not your favorite political party. Its not power and its not money. Its not the flag directly. Its certainly not the government. Its your country with its culture, values, principles, morals, ideals and the striving to keep and further the good ones and drive out the bad ones. I would sooner cite literature, wide green lawns, non-military technical advancements, charity, immigrants and huge national parks as points of pride than anything Donnie and his ilk would spew forth.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

yikes. that's very ... uncharacteristic

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

A fitting tribute to our uniformed military, Border Patrol and ICE which has been long overdue. Contrary to the MSM, patriotism is on the upswing. We are proud to be Americans and take pride in our country.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Hmmmm.....from the looks of the thousands of people I would beg to differ

Hmmm . . . Of course you disagree, it's your knee-jerk reaction towards those you consider liberal. You constantly disagree with your own posts when a liberal quotes you. It's so funny I alsmost wet myself laughing when it happens.

Anyway, the size of the crowd has zero to do with whom Donny is honoring. This means your comment is irrelevant, which is no surprise.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

But this whole fairly tale about him supporting the military ranks right up there in the Top 3. This is a guy who dodged the draft 5 times! He's a coward.

Some may say that, others may not. He’s not the first to dodge the draft. As the President he’s serving his country and from the looks of it, he’s going to serve 4 more years, so that argument just got deflated.

He never talked about supporting the military or wanting to help Vets before starting his campaign in 2015.

The Democrats in the Previous administration did nothing in the 8 years at least Trump tried and is doing.

He didn't give one red cent about them - they didn't stay in Trump Resorts or buy Trump ties. 

Uh-huh....

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/298065-too-little-too-late-for-veterans-under-obama

And then he goes and insults and denigrates John McCain's service to his country, engages in name-calling with a Gold Star family - a family who's son gave the ultimate sacrifice, and fires and disrespects one of our nation's greatest Generals - Jim Mattis. 

Oh, stop! Trump absolutely didn’t have the need to respect anyone that tried to take him down and to personally attack him which McCain was trying to do, the man had every right to defend himself and to fight back, the same for anyone that attacked him, because he’s President he needs to shut up and take it? I don’t think so. I thought it was highly appropriate that he called McCain out for what he said and what he tried to do to him. Respect goes both ways and if he feels he’s not getting respect he doesn’t have to reciprocate.

Trump engages in false patriotism merely for political gain.

And the Democrats hate Patriotism , they do the same thing and it was evident as you saw the debate last week, they will say anything and I mean anything to score political points.

He cares nothing about our military heroes - they're just another object for him to use to bamboozle his supporters.

The Democrats didn’t care for the military at all that’s why for the last eight years the morale was so low and one of the lowest since we had a military.

Trump actually despises the military - because it has something his sick ego desperately craves but will never get - the respect and admiration of the nation.

If that were even remotely true then the president would have never done what he did today, because as with the last administration the president didn’t care at all didn’t care to visit them while they were overseas, he didn’t do anything except going on an apology tour.

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

Hope it won't get deleted (again) due to "off-topic":

"..... Spectators stand next to a tank ......"

Now that ain't no tank, at least not to the old-days-classification.

A Bradley is a fighting vehicle, or APC.

So, please, show us the Abrams! (Well, he, deDonnie, got at least 2 of them, so great)

4 ( +5 / -1 )

@bass4 And the Democrats hate Patriotism

I have no idea what you might mean by 'patriotism', but if it's that reactionary-fundamentalist's definition equating patriotism with military might, you're probably correct there are SOME Democrats who dislike, even hate what you seem to be calling patriotism.

Some Democrats, and some Republicans, define patriotism as showing respect for the principles of the republic, something Trump and his backers are trying to undo. Using that definition, I'd say Trump and many of his followers are extremely UNpatriotic.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

@bass4 Keep trying.

Futile. I've worked with individuals with concretized synapses and those with OCD and know it's a waste of time to try to convince them. All that can be done is show counterpoints to their lies and distortions.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

bass4 And the Democrats hate Patriotism

I prefer the types who put their money where their mouths are. It’s easy to sing a song or salute a piece of cloth or watch jets fly over your head.

One case is Mayor Pete. A very intelligent man who could do pretty much anything with that brain power, signed up and served in Afghanistan. Contrast that with draft-dodging Trump organizing military parades.

Your demonstrably false, partisan generalization about democrats hating patriotism is insulting.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

@Kaerimashita

I thought military showing off was very much the norm in the US. Don't they fly jets over lots of sporting and other social events? And frequently have smaller scale versions of this in towns and cities?

Yes, right. The VFW or American Legion flag-bearing honor guard in my home town and countless towns across the USA are indeed showing off to the enthusiastic applause of crowds.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

It's easy to decipher why the anti-American democrat socialists abhor patriotism.

The difference between those whom democrat socialists despise is striking. They detest any person who values freedom, individualism, and self-reliance; individuals who are motivated and compete to succeed for themselves.

The democrat socialists, on the other hand, are a group of unhappy, selfish children who will do whatever means necessary to get their way. They value being a member of a compliant pack that will ensure outcomes they are unable to achieve personally. They are void of any worth or purpose. They are reduced to parrot talking points their moral superiors within the Media Industrial Complex tell them, and like-minded democrat socialists nod in bovine agreement.

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

I have no idea what you might mean by 'patriotism', but if it's that reactionary-fundamentalist's definition equating patriotism with military might,

That is indeed a PART of it.

you're probably correct there are SOME Democrats who dislike, even hate what you seem to be calling patriotism. 

And that’s ok, but the problem is, liberals always try to demonize the military as bad and hostile.

Some Democrats, and some Republicans, define patriotism as showing respect for the principles of the republic,

That’s exactly what the President did. Seems more of patriot to me.

Futile. I've worked with individuals with concretized synapses and those with OCD and know it's a waste of time to try to convince them. All that can be done is show counterpoints to their lies and distortions.

Uhhhh...Ok, nice

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

Well, well, something got mixed up with "Texas.......Aggie's" comment.

Were you actually talking about Trump and his crew? At least it looks like it.

"..... group of unhappy, selfish children......" and "...... value being a member of a compliant pack ....."

as well as "..........  reduced to parrot talking points their moral superiors ......" .

But maybe I'm just misinterpreting all this?

6 ( +8 / -2 )

Very much a Trump Day.

Also very much an American Day.

Woe be it that my beloved country has been usurped by a lowbrow, manipulative demagogue.

LOL... Yes, woe be it that we have like the best economy ever, ISIS has control of not one city in Syria or Iraq, we are talking with the North Koreans, with inter-Korean relations at their best since the Korean War, the Iranians are finding it difficult to fund Hezbollah, Trump decided not to kill 150 or so Iranians because they shot down an unmanned plane...

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

I don't find many things as tiresome as the inane generalisations made by obsessive bores bloated with self-righteousness.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

A very intelligent man who could do pretty much anything with that brain power, signed up and served in Afghanistan. Contrast that with draft-dodging Trump organizing military parades. 

Anyway, he’ll never be President

Irrelevant.

He is living proof of a liberal who served his country more than the vast majority of chest-thumping ‘patriots’ here.

Your generalisations are pure trolling.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

We are all different. We all show our ways of patriotism differently.

Does include the woman footballers, Megan Rapinoe or other sports people not standing for the anthem?

7 ( +9 / -2 )

believe it or not, despite what the media feeds you, Trump is quite popular and will probably be reelected.

This is quite true - if you add these 6 words "if he were running in Russia"....

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Trump is  rallying the American people, appealing to the people and he knows that the military and war is what the Americans crave, which just proves my point that the psyche of the American people is war. For the past 75 years the US has been at war with the globe and with the support of the people. Until the average American change their psyche, change their lust for military aggression, the US will be at war. It appears that nothing unifies the people more that war and Trump has woken up to this. As President Carter once said; America is one of the most waring nations in history.

1 ( +4 / -3 )

Trump feels probably feels deep sadness at not being able to serve in the Armed Forces. I’m sure every time he sees a military jet go by, his feet hurt. It’s so nice that the taxpayers could chip in millions of dollars to help him feel better by giving him a nice parade. Money well spent. It would only have been thrown away helping people recover from hurricanes, or feeding the hungry, or curing the sick, or some other such nonsense.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

We have a Great President. That much is crystal clear. 

We also have an entire political cabal that lives for the destruction of our Nation.

Let this 4th of July stand as beacon of strength and determination to see the 

Communist/Socialist/Marxist/Progressive wing of the Democrat Party be driven into the seas

bordering our Nation.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Spoke to friends across the country and they reported on parades and displays of American pride everywhere. Talked to people in DC who attended the celebration and they said that it was the biggest and most crowded ever.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

You should never dangle ya weapon unless you intend to use it.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

I wonder how many Trump supporters on this post, have served their country? Show of hands.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Looks like everyone had a great time. A good speech, non-partisan at that, by the President. Nothing wrong with a little pomp and ceremony to celebrate the birth of your nation, I say good for you.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Trump is rallying the American people, appealing to the people and he knows that the military and war is what the Americans crave,

Yes, we love the smell of Napalm! Lol! Seriously, you believe that garbage? Come on now...

which just proves my point that the psyche of the American people is war.

“War” No! Socialism....yeah

For the past 75 years the US has been at war with the globe and with the support of the people.

Of course.

Until the average American change their psyche, change their lust for military aggression, the US will be at war.

More like if people decide not to destabilize other nations, harm our allies or threaten us, we don’t need a war.

It appears that nothing unifies the people more that war and Trump has woken up to this. As President Carter once said; America is one of the most waring nations in history.*

Carter will also go down as one of the worst Presidents in history as well.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

Trump said. "For over 65 years, no enemy Air Force has managed to kill a single American soldier. Because the skies belong to the United States of America."

Factly incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-to-air_combat_losses_between_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_United_States#Korean_War

Enormous aircraft losses in Vietnam.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

America has only been at peace for 21 years out of 243 years.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-has-been-at-war-93-of-the-time-222-out-of-239-years-since-1776/5565946

Nothing to be proud about.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

America has only been at peace for 21 years out of 243 years

Nothing to be proud about

I disagree, lot of junk to take out.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

Not only the 4th of July but we have people waving the flag at Christmas and Thanksgiving too. And there are several other holidays where flag waving is meant to be appropriate...too many. America has become a giant zombified flag and war cult. It makes me ill. These people who think its all wholesome innocent fun make me ill. There is a time and place to display your patriotism, and while it is certainly the 4th of July, overdoing it is a sign of illness, especially when you are doing it for all the wrong reasons.

"For over 65 years, no enemy Air Force has managed to kill a single American soldier.

What a disgusting back of vomit we have for a president. Thumping his chest over a lie which even if true, is disgusting to brag about on a day we are supposed to be celebrating freedom and independence and effing war glories.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

America has only been at peace for 21 years out of 243 years.

Another thing to add is many have noticed the poor results of their wars after WW2 in particular.

Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq were hardly successes.

The US military sounds like the socialism the right complain about - throwing money at something which doesn’t produce good results.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Heh, the U.S. Park Service issued a permit for the Baby Trump balloon to the Brits, but with the restriction: NO HELIUM, only air. So it never got airborne.

A classic slap in the face to the anti-American back benchers who crossed the pond only to be denied their moment to disrupt the celebration of us separating from them 243 years ago today.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

Well, looking at some other pictures from this oh so great event:

https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1146917687274221568/photo/1

Looks like the man was once again left standing in the rain.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

This is Independence Day, the 4th of July. US won its independence. It won by fightiing a war. People died to make it and keep us independent. And they were organized as military units to do so. To recognize the fact that it took and still takes physical power in the military to keep us independent and free from other nations taking over was and is important. This event recognized that fact and Trump in his own way representing all of us as on Memorial day (which is solemn) with a gala celebration and appreciation of those that created the USA, our country. And we are when compared to most other nations, still the best.

Think... why are all those migrants from all over the world wanting to come to the USA, even if illegally?

In that spirit, we have a lot to be proud of and celebrate about, regardless of politics or personalities. Politics and personalities exist every where. But there is still only one USA.

That is what I would like our 4th of July to be remembered as and to celebrate about.

(The only sad part about this event as seen on television is that when Trump gave historical anecdotes, very few appeared to know US history or even recognize some of the famous quotations he included in his speech, recognizing the "values" which made our USA great.)

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

otherworldlyToday  01:50 pm JST

Talked to people in DC who attended the celebration and they said that it was the biggest and most crowded ever.

It didn't occur to you that they probably weren't the most impartial people you could have asked?

5 ( +10 / -5 )

Trump in his own way representing all of us

Yeah, him with his bone spurs and tiny hands and fighting his own personal Vietnam against STDs.

Who could possibly be a better representative?

And we are when compared to most other nations, still the best.

You funny.

Or sad, not sure which.

7 ( +14 / -7 )

America the beautiful! Happy Independence Day! Great Britain has never been the same!

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Happy Fourth of July America!

Be proud of your past and be proud of your future, but most importantly never abandon the fighting spirit that has granted you freedom from tyranny.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

It didn't occur to you that they probably weren't the most impartial people you could have asked?

It actually did occur to me, as it was a very bi partisan celebration. The left and the right were celebrating America’s Independence Day. Of course there were no far left socialists there if that’s what you mean.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Clearly some people think patriotism is the ability to insult, dominate and troll others, or at least that is what they want us to believe.

3 ( +9 / -6 )

8T: " the fighting spirit that has granted you freedom from tyranny."

And made you the tyrant of the globe. A warmongering nation that has known no peace for over 100 years and will never know peace until its  warmongering mentality changes.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

And we are when compared to most other nations, still the best.

We can argue all day about the ‘best’. It’s a good place to live and in my limited experience, one of the best to live as a foreigner. I must admit to being a Europhile, but I’d be happy to go back to the US to work one day.

I find those who bash the country often have no experience of it.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

A classic slap in the face to the anti-American back benchers who crossed the pond only to be denied their moment to disrupt the celebration of us separating from them 243 years ago today.

A classic Donny move to trample on the free speech rights of those that disagree with him. Pow! Pow!

6 ( +7 / -1 )

At least the Americans were able to do a clean Brexit in 1783, unlike the current sad crop in the UK...

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

At least the Americans were able to do a clean Brexit in 1783, unlike the current sad crop in the UK..

Uhhh . . . you're calling a war a "clean" break. You're also bagging off on the British for not being able to leave Britain. Odd.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

More like if people decide not to destabilize other nations,

But the US doing this perfectly okay?

harm our allies or threaten us, we don’t need a war.

And the US is the great decider of this, correct?

7 ( +7 / -0 )

At least the Americans were able to do a clean Brexit in 1783, unlike the current sad crop in the UK..

Uhhh . . . you're calling a war a "clean" break. You're also bagging off on the British for not being able to leave Britain. Odd.

Yes, it was a poor comparison. It lacks accuracy, knowledge or wit.

It has no redeeming features whatsoever.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

If that were even remotely true then the president would have never done what he did today,

This is a false duality. It's more plausible that Donny did what he did today to feed his ego than that he did it to honor the military.

because as with the last administration the president didn’t care at all didn’t care to visit them while they were overseas, he didn’t do anything except going on an apology tour.

Let's see how accurate this is:

Obama didn't once apologize to any foreign leader for American actions. Not one single time.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/obama-quotes/

Donny claimed, for example, that he came up with the "genius idea" of giving veterans private health care so they don't have to wait for Veterans Affairs appointments, only to find out that others had thought of it but failed to get it done.

President Barack Obama signed the law getting it done in 2014.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/ap-fact-check-trump-often-041305744.html

In April 2009, Trump’s predecessor in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama, made his own trip to Iraqto visit U.S. military personnel. It was his first visit as commander in chief, though he had also visited Iraq in July 2008 as a U.S. senator while campaigning for president.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/27/stark-contrast-between-trumps-trip-iraq-obamas-visit/%3foutputType=amp

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites