Democrat Warren announces challenge to Trump in 2020

She cat win. She let the indian blood controversy get out of hand. She has doomed herself to becoming the next joe Biden.

Meow !!!!!!!!!!

I don't see any hope of Ms. Warren winning the Democratic nomination much less the presidency.

Besides being anti President Trump I'm not even sure what she stands for and what she offers the American people.

Warren is an excellent candidate. This will be interesting -- as opposed to the current state of the depressing Trump circus.

As a president, I think she'd do great. As a presidential candidate, I'm not really sure how far she can go. That's more or less how I feel about many of the potential 2020 candidates, unfortunately.

No matter who runs, I hope they stick to the issues and field smart campaigns.

I do not want to lose to Trump over ridiculous in-fighting and ideological purity tests.

Like Joe said, I think she'd do a far better job than Cadet Bonespurs as President. That being said, I don't see her being a good presidential candidate.

Warren is unelectable. Too far left. Democrats could easily will if they put someone up from the center. That would easily get 60% of the vote.

Put up a far-left person and the Republicans who dislike Trump and aren't thrilled with the GOP for going along with his feces won't vote Democratic.

Besides being anti President Trump I'm not even sure what she stands for and what she offers the American people.

Get out of the conservative bubble that cuts off oxygen and do a bit of research and then you'll know what Warren has to offer.

She barely won MA. She doesn’t have a chance as president. He would make a great vp for Oprah or the wife of Obama.

You don't know Obama's wife's name? Wow. I guess certain things are blocked on Google in Russia.

Her ideas re the U.S nuclear force guarantee nuclear proliferation. Any weakening of the U.S nuclear umbrella forces U.S allies to pursue their own solutions. That includes her desire to cut off modernization funding making the U.S nuclear deterrent second rate and superseded. I can't believe she is so naive not to see that. Her policy ideas, if they were implemented, will lead to nuclear proliferation without a shadow of a doubt.

I can easily foresee Japan, Australia and many others taking the nuclear path as a result of her policies.

I can easily foresee Japan, Australia and many others taking the nuclear path as a result of her policies.

You really think Japan would develop nukes? Seems one helluva stretch to me given how much the Japanese revel in telling everyone that they are the only nation to have been nuked.

Warren is a South Park character. She claims to be an indian and denies that she is a man. It is obvious she is only suited for filling the shoe of joe biden.

She would be very much preferable to Bone Spurs.

You really think Japan would develop nukes? Seems one helluva stretch to me given how much the Japanese revel in telling everyone that they are the only nation to have been nuked.

Easy. Look at Japans neighbors. its an incredibly easy argument to make.

No please no! Not US election reporting starting already.

No please no! Not US election reporting starting already.

lol yeah not something we want to be subject to for another 2 whole years.

Wait until 6 months out.

She has no chance to win. The “campaign” is just a justification for her to non stop attack Trump for the next 2 years.

Ms. Warren has come across as very foolish regarding her continued stubborn claim to Native American heritage. Not presidential material.

President Trump has been a welcome drain the swamp, get things done for the working class president. Ms. Warren would be a return to swampish career politicians Washington as usual.

Go for it Liz!

Warren-Ocasio-Cortez 2020!

Get ready for the Trumpers to look agog and cry foul about being called racist (or just a supporter of racism) as Trump does war cries and calls her Pochahantes all the time.

She has no chance to win. The “campaign” is just a justification for her to non stop attack Trump for the next 2 years.

How unfair. Trump has never attacked someone for two years about not being an American citizen due to their funny sounding name. And Trump has never attacked Warren for two years, over her heritage. How could anyone ever attack Trump for two years, when he is innocent of ever doing such a thing?

Like all democrats, she favors higher taxes, like many others, she supports Bernie’s “Medicare for all” and she’d “abolish” and replace Immigration and Customs Enforcement with “something that reflects our morality,” which of course, she doesn’t specify.

 The Warren difference is that she also wants fundamental changes to America’s free-market system. She has proposed the Accountable Capitalism Act, which would require corporations with $1 billion in revenue to get a new charter from the federal government. Most corporations are state-chartered now.

 I don't use the term lightly, but Warren is preaching straight-up Communism, almost chapter and verse from Marx's Manifesto.

The idea of government "chartering" private corporations is right out of 19th Century Germany, and the bright dividing line between Socialism -- which posits use of corporate revenue "directed to the common good," vs. Communism which posits "control of production" and installing government overseers on corporate Boards of Directors.

This is entirely out in the open and unambiguous: She thinks government should run the private economy and direct individual corporate decision-making: That's not "socialism." Not even close.

That's Communism, and we're hair-splitting if we're trying to define the difference between Warren's idea of what "a Republic is," vs. The People's Republic of China.

I hope the Americans can elect a straight-down-the-middle, safe-pair-of-hands in the next innings - one with the guts of Trump but also some smarts.

But I fear the next leader will be some fringe character no matter who it turns out to be.

They will be bent on doing something with negative side effects such as economic or social disruption.

Cant we just get these darned politicians out of the way?

I’ve always liked her. The US needs health care. But to do it she have to break the backs of the deep state and the MIC? Is she up for that?

A good choice. She has the far right so scared and confused they are calling her a man.

A far better choice than Clinton, that's for sure.

Get ready for the Trumpers to look agog and cry foul about being called racist (or just a supporter of racism) as Trump does war cries and calls her Pochahantes all the time.

When I woke up this morning and read the news, I laughed for almost 30 minutes. I don’t even know what to think. Yes, please run. Lol

The democrat conga line begins.

This is entirely out in the open and unambiguous: She thinks government should run the private economy and direct individual corporate decision-making: That's not "socialism." Not even close.

Lolz more overreactions from the same bunch claiming Obama was a communist.

Allowing laborers to have representation on the board is an interesting, but not new, idea. The Germans do the same thing. Are they a bunch of commies, too? Just laughs.

If you're an adult getting off on calling someone Pocahontas then you might be a loser.

She is the laughing stock of the Democratic Party. She is the perfect candidate to take on Trump.

She is the laughing stock of the Democratic Party.

No she's not. While Trumpets hate her, the Democratic party has never had a problem with her.

If you claim racial privilege when you are 1/1024th a member of that race, you are a loser. To be a “victim” of a racial alur, one needs to be a member of that race.

When I woke up this morning and read the news, I laughed for almost 30 minutes.

Did you laugh as much when you dismissed Trump as the leader of a “lunatic fringe”and his candidacy would fizzle out?

You seem to have lots of laughs at presidential candidates.

She is the laughing stock of the Democratic Party. She is the perfect candidate to take on Trump

Oh, without a doubt. Lol

Did you laugh as much when you dismissed Trump as the leader of a “lunatic fringe”and his candidacy would fizzle out? 

In the beginning, but then I evolved and realized how wrong I was.

You seem to have lots of laughs at presidential candidates.

Sure do, Jim.

I mean seriously, how do liberals hear all these dog whistles and I don’t? Aren’t I the intended audience?

You'd have to ask a liberal.

The point is that with the offensive language that Trump uses, it strikes a chord with a demographic who feel they are not allowed say certain things anymore. Of course, this belief is nonsense. It's the kind of waffle that Trump capitalises on - you're not allowed say Merry Christmas and so on.

Trump supporters like to play the victim and act out of all proportion when their vitriol and bigotry is called out.

And of course, the more you point out that such epithets are offensive and ignorant, the more the Trump supporters use them, whilst still complaining that they aren't allowed use them anymore.

Good luck to Poco

Quod erat demonstrandum.

I don't actually know enough about her to know if I like her or not.

But I love that her announcement is stressing out the Trumpets so much.

Not even. She has zero chance of even making it to the final 5 candidates.

Maybe. We'll see who shows themselves to be the best candidates.

But for now, it's fun watching the Republicans freak out, worrying that Trump using a racial epithet against her for years may now turn around and bite him in the ass.

You'd have to ask a liberal.

so what do you think?

The point is that with the offensive language that Trump uses, it strikes a chord with a demographic who feel they are not allowed say certain things anymore. Of course, this belief is nonsense. It's the kind of waffle that Trump capitalises on - you're not allowed say Merry Christmas and so on.

In California it is becoming harder to do that.

Trump supporters like to play the victim and act out of all proportion when their vitriol and bigotry is called out.

What about the haters that play the victimhood and can’t get over thei4 anger, hatred and TDS for the President?

And of course, the more you point out that such epithets are offensive and ignorant, the more the Trump supporters use them, whilst still complaining that they aren't allowed use them anymore.

Funny, not once did I hear you criticize Warren for lying..

I’m simply against white people doing cultural appropriation to get special privileges. Are you exempt from that if you hate Trump?

To be honest, I'm more concerned about a president that would use racial epithets in trying to criticize someone he doesn't like. I would say that is pretty much infinitely more relevant than the issue you are bringing up.

And if that issue makes her ineligible in the eyes of the people, then she shouldn't be president. I'm ok with that.

But mostly I'm interested in seeing what other racial epithets Trump will use against her in the coming months.

I do have to say though, the US needs to reign in the length of their campaigns. The election is nearly two years away, and they're already announcing their campaigns. How about limiting it to a year? (which is still pretty ridiculous)

Maybe. We'll see who shows themselves to be the best candidates.

Who? The only person with even the slimmest remote chance would be maybe Biden, but that’s about it.

But for now, it's fun watching the Republicans freak out, worrying that Trump using a racial epithet against her for years may now turn around and bite him in the ass.

Freak out? No one in the White House is freaking out, in fact, Trump rightfully double downed on how Warren abused the system and lied to her advantage, even the Cherokee nation called her on it.

This time there will be 30-40 candidates of every gender and racial background.

Sounds like it could be a healthy thing. One thing I’m pretty sure of is the male or female Democratic candidates won’t attack a woman because of her face as Trump did to Fiorina.

Trump fans seemed to enjoy that. They like a different type of debate.

Who? The only person with even the slimmest remote chance would be maybe Biden, but that’s about it.

Bass, are you making predictions about presidential candidates again?

Bass, are you making predictions about presidential candidates again?

As of now, Trump wins hands down.

I don't suspect that she suspects she'll be nominated, but throwing her hat in the ring will ensure her voice is heard. She's done much for America.

Of course, the "conga line" for the Dem nomination will be long and complex, as is always the case for a party out of power (those with mental facilities will remember how Trump was nominated). But equally interesting is whether and how many GOPers will challenge the incumbent.

President Trump has been a welcome drain the swamp, get things done for the working class president.

Apart from all those scandals, the nepotism, the cronyism, the lies and him not being working class, sure. As welcome as any racist sex pest is, I guess.

so what do you think?

I've told you I'm not a liberal. Perhaps we can entertain more scintillating dialogue when you progress to political literacy.

So it’s bad when liberals attack Trump’s looks? When he is called “Orange” is that not in reference to his face?

Both you and Trump have attacked Warren's ethnicity.

That's very different to making fun of a guy who wears orange makeup.

But you know that already.

"If you're an adult getting off on calling someone Pocahontas then you might be a loser."

Absolutely. Calling Warren Pocahontas is an insult to Pocahontas.

"And let's wait for Mueller's investigación results.... Tick-tock, tick-tock.."

Mueller Ain't Got Anything

MAGA

So it’s bad when liberals attack Trump’s looks? When he is called “Orange” is that not in reference to his face?

You aren't seriously whining about people insulting Trump are you?

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Trump and Trumpets have no standing to complain about him being insulted for anything. He brought it there.

So it’s bad when liberals attack Trump’s looks?

Did Sanders insult Clinton’s looks or vice versa? I’m talking about people running for President. The debates between Sanders and Clinton were quite substantive. Trump was cracking knob jokes and calling people names.

As I mentioned, that is something Trump supporters seem to enjoy.

"If you're an adult getting off on calling someone Pocahontas then you might be a loser."

Absolutely.

I'm surprised to hear you agree that Trump is a loser. Finally you're starting to figure these things out.

MAGA

I've asked people over the last couple of years what this actually means.

Still yet to hear a convincing or rational answer. But it seems to appeal to those who get a buzz from using racial epithets and reduce the serious question of racial bigotry to sloganeering or equating it with jokes about makeup.

Mueller Ain't Got Anything

MAGA

No, that's incorrect. You amended it before try to make it more accurate, but now you've removed the amendment, bringing it back into a state that is clearly wrong already, much less what is to come.

I think you should probably add your amendment back in.

Amendment once more, lol - Mueller Ain't Got Anything That's Gonna Stop Trump's Re-election.

Still yet to hear a convincing or rational answer. But it seems to appeal to those who get a buzz from using racial epithets and reduce the serious question of racial bigotry to sloganeering or equating it with jokes about makeup.

What about the racist antics of Warren to look down and use an ethnic group to advance herself through college. I find that very racially insensitive.

But equally interesting is whether and how many GOPers will challenge the incumbent.

That’s even worse. You think Bloomberg or Kasich can beat Trump? Oh, my.....

Yeah, maybe he should have been a little less submissive cause that just let her screw him despite him winning the “substantive debates”.

Yes, he won on substance. He actually knows things. He didn’t resort to idiotic name-calling.

That’s because he’s not a trash-talking ignoramus.

As I mentioned, Trump fans like a different style of debate. Warren’s claim to having Native American heritage was a very dodgy one and she deserves criticism, but she isn’t a trash-talking ignoramus either.

As I mentioned, Trump fans like a different style of debate. Warren’s claim to having Native American heritage was a very dodgy one and she deserves criticism, but she isn’t a trash-talking ignoramus either.

You’re right, but what she did was actually far worse. She lied to further her career and then used a minority group to help with the cause, outlandish and totally racist.

You’re right, but what she did was actually far worse. She lied to further her career and then used a minority group to help with the cause, outlandish and totally racist.

Dishonest and opportunistic for me but not racist.

Refusing to rent to people based on skin colour is racist.

President Trump has been a welcome drain the swamp, get things done for the working class president.

Nonsense. There’s zero evidence that the Orange (yeah... I said orange) moron has done anything to drain the swamp. In fact he has dropped the biggest swamp onto government Washington has ever seen.

That's Communism, and we're hair-splitting if we're trying to define the difference between Warren's idea of what "a Republic is," vs. The People's Republic of China.

Seriously? You’re rolling out that old “they’s a commie” trope? Please even for Trumpsters, where you have real competition, that’s one of the more inane racks of the day.

What about the racist antics of Warren to look down and use an ethnic group to advance herself through college. I find that very racially insensitive.

So you can't tell me what MAGA means, either.

Warren was racially abused by Trump and his supporters and they blame her for her heritage.

Just wait until Trump's use of the n-word is finally verified. The spinners will be well dizzy trying to justify that one.

No more Clintons. No more Bushes. And, most importantly, NO MORE TRUMPS!!

No more Clintons. No more Bushes. And, most importantly, NO MORE TRUMPS!!

Aye. All toxic for the people of America.

And in the case of the Trumps - treasonous.

If there is a USA left, post-Trump, President Warren will have her work cut out for her - healing the fractured nation and the damage done by the current criminal in charge.

I think Warren has a 1/1024 chance of winning!

I hope Tulsi Gabbard runs...

Mueller Ain't Got Anything  . . .

Try one of these instead:

Moscow's Agenda Governing America

Moscow's American Gangster Association

My Administration's Going Away

Missed Another Golfing Appointment

Dishonest and opportunistic for me but not racist. 

For me it’s both.

Refusing to rent to people based on skin colour is racist

It is, but when you deal with the mob, you need to weigh things very carefully and smart.

So you can't tell me what MAGA means, either.

Warren was racially abused by Trump and his supporters and they blame her for her heritage.

Whoa, wait a minute! Warren has been trying to pass herself off as a Native American since her days in college, it has nothing to do with Trump and the Cherokee nation rightfully calling her out. The only person that is at fault here is Warren.

Just wait until Trump's use of the n-word is finally verified. The spinners will be well dizzy trying to justify that one.

Boy, you guys are nur hoping and praying they find something on this guy, sick.

If there is a USA left, post-Trump, President Warren will have her work cut out for her - healing the fractured nation and the damage done by the current criminal in charge.

Relax, they’ll be a US, but there will never be a President Warren, even Mickey Mouse has a better chance of reaching the Presidency than her.

If that's not gross hyperbole then you're stark raving mad.

Or, it was honestly and truthfully the funniest thing she could have announced. Lol

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Elizabeth_Warren.htm

She has some "reasonable" stances and many more oh-my-god stances. She is full of costly ideals, but doesn't seem to have any clue for what they cost or how to pay for them.

Elizabeth Warren is a Hard-Core Liberal.

Unelectable.

While I don't care what Warren's claims are to her native American blood, the Cherokee Nation does.

“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/16/why-cherokee-nations-rebuke-elizabeth-warren-matters/

1/64th - 1/1024th native American blood - I thought democrats were against the "1-drop" method of determining race? https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mixed/onedrop.html Perhaps Warren is a racist.

Relax, they’ll be a US, but there will never be a President Warren, even Mickey Mouse has a better chance of reaching the Presidency than her.

Didn't you say this about Trump and his “lunatic fringe”? Before he became the Republican nominee and you fell in line for the GOP like a good boy, I mean.

Didn't you say this about Trump and his “lunatic fringe”? Before he became the Republican nominee and you fell in line for the GOP like a good boy, I mean.

I never fell in line for the GOP, but I evolved, I’m happy with that.

Seriously though - who actually laughs for 30 minutes when someone announces they're running for president, even if it's a very weak candidate? It sounds a lot more like an exaggeration, in which case it should not be taken seriously. If not that person has some serious issues but nothing they write should be taken seriously. If anyone wants reasons why it's impossible to discuss anything properly with Trump supporters, look no further than some of the comments here.

As long as it continues to bring GOP supporters conniption fits, I'm all for it

Whoa, wait a minute! Warren has been trying to pass herself off as a Native American since her days in college, it has nothing to do with Trump and the Cherokee nation rightfully calling her out. The only person that is at fault here is Warren.

Victim blaming aside, you still can't tell me what MAGA means.

President Warren sounds like the kind of leader America needs right now. After Trump is jailed she can even offer him a pardon to placate his followers. Then he'll finally have been humbled.

She's a millionaire lawyer part of the 1% club can it get any worse?.

Elizabeth Warren does not understand that her goofy DNA video right before the mid-terms has officially made her damaged goods; her image as a snobby phony has been cast in stone.  I, for one, am glad she decided to run. All she will do is remind voters that democrats speak with forked tongues (as her nonexistent Native American ancestors said in countless Hollywood movies).

U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren, a liberal firebrand who has taken on Wall Street and traded barbs with Donald Trump, on Monday became the most prominent Democrat to announce a challenge to the Republican president in 2020.

Warren said she had formed an exploratory committee, which will allow her to begin raising money to compete in what is expected to be a crowded Democratic primary field before the November 2020 presidential election.

She said on Twitter she would announce her decision on whether to run early in 2019.

Pocahontas gets to keep the money that she raises for her presidential run, regardless of whether she wins, or loses. Jumping in two years before the election gives her a chance to suck up any TDS money that's currently burning a hole in pockets of the usual haters.

It's amazing how comfortable some posters here are with using racial epithets referring to native Americans. Is it still socially acceptable to use racial epithets if they 'only' refer to natives?

I'm glad she's running. You can tell the Trumpers are scared, because if they weren't, they'd want her to run. Yet instead, they disparage her with racial epithets in hope that it will convince the Democrats to not let her run.

I'm glad she's running. You can tell the Trumpers are scared, because if they weren't, they'd want her to run. Yet instead, they disparage her with racial epithets in hope that it will convince the Democrats to not let her run.

I'm with you! I'm not only glad she's running, I hope she wins the Dem nomination in 2020 - and once again in 2024!

Well, well, the stars have aligned!

Pence vs Liz 2024! Marvelous!