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Democrats dig in for Florida recount battle; Trump sends lawyers

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This would not be happening if republicans didn't try to suppress democratic votes.

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Incumbent Democratic U.S. Senator Bill Nelson's campaign also filed a motion in federal court asking that provisional and absentee ballots not be rejected because election officials deem that the signatures do not match voters' signatures already on file.

Let a professional make the decision on this. Sometimes people's signatures change over time, or depending upon the situation of when they wrote it, but one thing is fairly certain, the signatures have common points that can be used to determine, within reasonable doubt, if the same person wrote them or not!

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"I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election," Scott told reporters.

As opposed to "ethical" Republicans? Two for one on the HAHAHA jokes today! I don't know which is better!

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また?

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"All of a sudden they are finding votes out of nowhere,"

Trump claimed how many million illegal voters cast ballot for Hillary?

Trump has Zero credibility. Except to the dwindling part of his base who refuse to question anything he says.

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Trump has Zero credibility

Definitely. The man-child will say anything.

The US has an adversarial court system, so let's hope that the side which gets the most accurate, legal, citizen, vote counts wins in each of these contested locations.

I absentee voted and my signature on the ballot form (outside of the anonymous ballot) didn't look much like my normal signature. Thankfully, in my state the exact match signature requirement was thrown out by a court a few weeks earlier because the state didn't have any handwriting experts and wasn't going to get enough to validate 200K+ absentee ballots.

Plus, gotta love that state law mandates absentee voter information (full name, address, reason for absentee, and registration number) be publicly available. No reason is required to vote absentee, but some people provided it, which effectively tells crooks they are disabled or elderly. The law needs to be changed, but Mr. Kemp's office didn't have any choice except to release the data. It is state law. As for voter registration, Kemp is bound by state law on that as well. The legislature and governor signed it. It is a bad law that needs to be changed to allow easier and more access for everyone legally allowed to vote.

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So Rick Scott, who oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in the nation's history, and Donald Trump, who defrauded Trump University students, condo buyers and his own charity, are now accusing everyone else of fraud with no evidence?

This is Bush v. Gore all over again because when Republicans CANNOT legitimately win elections, they try and STEAL them. To be a Republican is to be immoral, unethical, and very, very dishonest.

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This is going to be fun. Fox News followers are brainstorming conspiracy theories to find the best one as we speak.

Unless the GOP winds up winning, then the conspiracy talk will fall off the face of the earth overnight.

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This is going to be fun.

Watching Broward County cheat again? Yeah, real fun.

Fox News followers are brainstorming conspiracy theories to find the best one as we speak.

As is CNN and their msnbc counterparts.

Unless the GOP winds up winning, then the conspiracy talk will fall off the face of the earth overnight.

Naw, we’re used to it. Democrats, if they can’t win, we have to go to a recount, not surprised at all...at all. They don’t have any substantive solid policies or real answers so many complex and vexing issues, so the only way to win is to cheat their way through.

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There's no evidence they cheated. People want to know the total number of votes and want to know why thing are so slow. But no one has found any evidice of anything. But it certainly is strange what she's doing.

"I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election," Scott told reporters.

See what Scott is doing there?

He has no evidence of wrongdoing but he has made an accusation. And he used the word "liberals" since that's an established smear in the right-wing world. He wants to link all of the negative emotion they have generated about liberls and apply it to this situation. If it continues then more than a few conservatives will be sold on the idea that no matter what they find or don't find, the liberals are guilty, or at the very least unethical.

So as more information becomes available, this is the mindset they will be in to receive it. These are the people who are on the other side.

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If “conservatives” were still “finding votes” days after an election liberals would be marching in the streets. Especially votes in Republican voting districts that are suddenly 10 to 1 in their favor.

It’s against the laws of the state to do what they are doing so leave it to the courts.

What happened to accepting results? Every Dem that even gets close demands recounts. Abrams in Georgia is even accepting money to pay for doing it.

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You have exactly described “Russian collusion” but instead of 2 days for votes it’s been 2 years of that. Mueller gonna find something but if he don’t, it still happened anyway.

be sold on the idea that no matter what they find or don't find, the liberals are guilty, or at the very least unethical.

So as more information becomes available, this is the mindset they will be in to receive it. These are the people who are on the other side.

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This would not be happening if republicans didn't try to suppress democratic votes.

Voter suppression? And exactly how was that done? Through demanding a picture ID? The problematic counties are controlled by DEMOCRAT officials. So how is there voter suppression?

Voter suppression is a dog whistle for "we'll keep counting until the democrat wins". I wouldn't be surprised if Broward County finds another 6000 votes for Al Gore.

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Well, it's official, the GOP just got caught paying for illegals to vote for them - 2 million votes.

Has there ever been a more pathetic party? After whining about illegal votes that weren't happening, now they are actively buying illegal votes.

And you people give it a pass and don't even care. Pathetic.

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kabukideath: Voter suppression? And exactly how was that done?

The short version: Judges have struck down dozens of GOP policies, some even expressly calling them racist. In a vast majority of the cases the GOP has been unable to prove 1) voter fraud exists in any meaningful way and 2) their proposals would do anything of value.

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This would not be happening if republicans didn't try to suppress democratic votes.

And democrats trying to suppress republican votes, which is what Brenda Snipes is trying to do. And if democrats can't win, then they play the "racist" cards.

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bass: No, there is plenty of evidence.

From bass' first link:

“There is no authentic surge,” a source at the Broward County Supervisor of Elections told People’s Pundit Daily. “They’ve been at this [filling out absentee ballots] for days, working 4 to 5 employees some 16 hours a day each. There’s no telling how many ballots we are talking about. As many as they can each write in 16 hours a piece.”

From his second link:

“We see it every election cycle down there. Democrat election supervisors can’t really be this incompetent, so it raises the question of whether or not they are intentionally failing to protect the integrity of the vote counting process. There’s only one reason to do that, and that’s to rig the outcome for Nelson and Gillum.”

blacklabel: If “conservatives” were still “finding votes” days

Just so you guys know, the quotation marks are a thing now. Bass's second article has a lot of them: been “found” in those counties, at least 20,000 “more” ballots, been “discovered” to close the gap, 46,000 Democrat votes “found”.

Expect to see it on here a lot.

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Ah yes, the People's Pundit Daily and the Capitolist. Where real Americans go for the real news.

"I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election," Scott told reporters.

This is what the GOP has come to. Should I laugh or should I cry?

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

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Good. It’ll be like Wisconsin in 2016.

Recount the votes only to discover the republicans won even bigger than the previous tally.

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"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes." ~ Joe Stalin

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They are now examining the invalid votes, with Dem election officials determining what the voter intended. then a worker fills out a new ballot and feeds it through the machine. That vote is then unable to be distinguished from an actual voter on Election Day.

So who is to stop the worker from filling out as many as they want and feeding them through?

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“There is no authentic surge,” a source at the Broward County Supervisor of Elections told People’s Pundit Daily. “They’ve been at this [filling out absentee ballots] for days, working 4 to 5 employees some 16 hours a day each

So what’s your point? There aren’t any republican or even democrat official is overseeing this together. That’s a serious problem and the serious violation of trust

“We see it every election cycle down there.

No, not like Broward County.

Republicans have expressed frustration with Snipes, who has a long history of election “snafus.”Just days before the 2016 presidential election, Republican poll watchers discovered that Snipes and her team were illegally opening vote by mail ballots – which traditionally come from Republican voters – behind closed doors and away from the supervision of the canvassing board, whose job it is to oversee and certify the election outcome.

Not surprised at all. Discount she is one of the most liberal counties in Florida has a history of doing this quaint back to 2000

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Sometimes, the protestations of an individual in trouble give glimpse to the very facts that put him in trouble. Trump lost the popular vote by a wide margin, a fact which is an itch he cannot scratch. But for Trump, American democracy has no meaning; it's all about him. These races are about him. So screw democracy.

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My image of someone who has gangs of lawyers is somebody dodgy.

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We already know that America's elections are 100% corrupt.

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Not surprised at all. Discount she is one of the most liberal counties in Florida has a history of doing this quaint back to 2000

I thought Snipes was a person, but apparently Snipes is a liberal county.

Accuracy eludes Trump supporters like logic and facts.

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Now I know something is going on as all CNN wants to talk about is Stormy Daniels payments again. and that the Mueller investigation is in danger of shutting down. The investigation they reported already that is almost done.

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The investigation they reported already that is almost done.

Why you making stuff up bro?

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Fake news CNN is making it up:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/415706-muellers-team-has-started-writing-its-final-report-cnn

now it’s oh my god Trump is gonna shut it down!

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Now I know something is going on as all CNN wants to talk about is Stormy Daniels payments again. and that the Mueller investigation is in danger of shutting down. The investigation they reported already that is almost done

For a person that hates CNN, you sure consume a lot of it.

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According to numerous sources, Scott's suit is baseless and will be thrown out. He cannot avoid an automatic recount unless he suspends the state constitution. The same thing may occur next door in Georgia once all the absentee ballots are counted, and the 55,000 ballots cancelled by Kemp's cronies for missing hyphens and failure to dot i's are restored. Half of all governorships are now in democratic hands, meaning that it will be much more difficult for the GOP to gerrymander electoral districts in these states after the 2020 census.

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CNN also telling me that 10,000 people who voted for the Dem candidate for governor didn’t vote at all for the anyone in the senate race. So do we just add 10,000 to the Dem candidate as the voter intent was obviously to vote for the Dem?

how dumb could you be to go vote and not realize you didn’t vote for the Senate race?

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Because CNN always tips their hand about what is trying to be covered up by what they choose to report and not report on the main page.

Main headline is Stormy Daniels, they use that everytime to distract while something else is going on (like election theft)

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These posters who have been whining about voter fraud but now give the GOP a pass even though they bought 2 million illegal votes, are pathetic. It just shows that they were lying all along about having a problem with voter fraud. If they bought two million votes this time, how many did they buy last time and the time before that?

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Black: Because CNN always tips their hand about what is trying to be covered up by what they choose to report and not report on the main page.

CNN is reporting a front page story from the Wall Street Journal ("Donald Trump Played Central Role in Hush Payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal"). What hand are they tipping?

CNN also telling me that 10,000 people who voted for the Dem candidate for governor didn’t vote at all for the anyone in the senate race. So do we just add 10,000 to the Dem candidate as the voter intent was obviously to vote for the Dem? how dumb could you be to go vote and not realize you didn’t vote for the Senate race?

The beauty of the bubble and those who live in it. Black is sourcing his news from an outlet that is intentionally omitting information to skew the story. Or he's doing it on his own.

In one county you had an odd occurrance where lots of people didn't vote for the Senate race. It doesn't exist in any other county, just this one. What they are questioning, and what black's source is leaving out, is that they want to check the machine that counted the votes to make sure there isn't a glitch. Because it sure would be odd that just this group of people in just this one part of Florida decided to show up and not vote for Senate.

It could also be because of the way the ballots presented the choices, in which case, the Dems are out of luck. I'm guessing that part is also left out of black's source.

There's nothing underhanded about any of that.

If you want to see underhanded, check out the Fox News headline yesterday: Mysteriously 'found' ballots in Dem strongholds in Florida, Arizona threaten Election Day Resuts.

Except there are no "found" ballots in Arizona. Everyone in Arizona knows what's going on. They have old equipment that can only check 75,000 ballots a day. There are hundreds of thousands of ballots left to count, and it's from the major metropolitan area which is largely blue. Usually the race has been decided by this point so there is no need to count the votes, but that's not the case here. They will keep counting and release the updated totals every day at 5 PM until all of the votes have been counted.

Now go ahead and read the Fox headline again.

Sure seems like they are lumping in Arizona with the situation in Florida, doesn't it? And if people don't know that they are going through groups of votes and releasing updates daily, you can bet there will be a lot of uneducated conservatives going around syaing, "gee, Arizona 'found' more ballots today."

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So basically Fox "News" is creating fake news, and the people who are watching it are of too low intelligence to fact check what they are seeing. Then they are getting outraged about the lies they are too stupid to fact check.

These people are everything that is wrong with America and the planet.

Their stupidity threatens us all. I know we intelligent aren't supposed to point out how stupid they are, but it's time to stop coddling morons who are too stupid to realize they are too stupid to be contributing to the conversation.

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Florida Democrats up to their old shenanigans. They are desperate for power - the heck with a fair and transparent election process. Time for a few more Democrat votes found tucked away in some activists car trunk.

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