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Democrats end deadlock; House hands Biden infrastructure win

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It’s amazing that Democrats can’t agree on how many trillions in deficit spending they want. The arch-Leftist’s are so intent on fundamentally changing America into a socialist utopia state that they are fighting against $1.85 trillion over the next three years because they insist on $3.5 trillion and a smorgasbord of Marxist policies instead. Pretty wild. Their stormtroopers are stalking the last moderate Democrat left in the party- Joe Manchin - harassing him by surrounding and beating on his car. They will eventually drive the man out for insufficient ideological purity.

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Please should keep Congress in session during the holidays, force Republican to filibuster for real

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The Red Wave has been building for years in America and this was shown again in Tuesday's elections. Democrats are losing Blacks, Latinos, and women in droves.

I wonder who these Democrats really represent?

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That would sink the infrastructure measure unless enough Republicans backed so that it passed anyway, which seemed unlikely.

Meanwhile Republicans are kicked back with a bucket of popcorn enjoying the show...Hey Dems you really are not helping yourselves.

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I wonder who these Democrats really represent?

Well, since the biden administration is planning to give illegal immigrants nearly half a million dollars each for refusing to return to their home countries with their children they are apparently not representing legal immigrants or citizens.

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But those plans were dashed when, after hours of talks, a half-dozen moderates insisted they would vote against the sprawling social and climate bill unless the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office first provided its cost estimate for the measure.

The ridiculous American two party dialectic goesA DINO boogeyman like Manchin , Lieberman or Republican filibuster and obstruct all the Dem election promisesThey give up universal healthcare,free college, higher corporate taxes, direct public stimulus etc. General disillusionment and another Republican majority, major election winWe have to vote Blue at any cost to stop these maniac Republicans!Rinse and repeat.

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They’re not going to pass any of this in all likelihood, they just don’t have the votes and they can only lose 3 Democrats. It won’t pass the Senate, not one single Republican will vote for this monstrosity. Manchin and Sinema won’t. Even if these selfish idiot protesters try and intimidate them.

Well, since the biden administration is planning to give illegal immigrants nearly half a million dollars each for refusing to return to their home countries with their children they are apparently not representing legal immigrants or citizens.

Exactly

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It'll pass next week - and then the Repubs can go out and try to explain why they don't support better infrastructure, more jobs, and cheaper medications...but do support trillion dollar tax cuts for the Top 1%....

Of course the only three letters that will come out of their mouths for the next three years will be CRT...which doesn't exist...

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It’s amazing that Democrats can’t agree on how many trillions in deficit spending they want. The arch-Leftist’s are so intent on fundamentally changing America into a socialist utopia state that they are fighting against $1.85 trillion over the next three years because they insist on $3.5 trillion and a smorgasbord of Marxist policies instead. Pretty wild. Their stormtroopers are stalking the last moderate Democrat left in the party- Joe Manchin - harassing him by surrounding and beating on his car. They will eventually drive the man out for insufficient ideological purity.

Socialist utopian Marxist stormtroopers?

You’re all over the place.

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Once this passes, it will be very interesting, and comical, watching the Repubs campaign for 2022/24....

Repubs: We'll protect you from such non-existent threats like CRT, caravans at the border, and religious-funded space lasers....and of course, in 2020, Trump won in a landslide and the election was stolen...

However, we recommend you not get vaccinated, don't wear a mask, and always carry a gun...

And if we win, it was the fairest, most secure election in history....but if we lose, it was all stolen by Hugo Chavez using vote-changing Chinese-made thermostats....

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It'll pass next week -

Not through the Senate

and then the Repubs can go out and try to explain why they don't support better infrastructure, more jobs, and cheaper medications...but do support trillion dollar tax cuts for the Top 1%.... 

If that were the case you wouldn’t see a growing red tidal wave heading the Dems way. They’re winning and getting close to winning in what was traditional blue states. If Biden’s agenda were that popular men like Youngkin and GOP turned a state House district that is roughly 75% Hispanic from blue to red, GOP House candidate John Lujan won the seat in Texas’ 118th not to mention the GOP flipped VA back to red and came very, very close to turning NJ red. Now if the Dems want to commit political suicide, so be it. 2022 is just around the corner. Bully Manchin and Sinema, see where that gets them.

Of course the only three letters that will come out of their mouths for the next three years will be CRT...which doesn't exist...

If it didn’t why were Dems trying to silence certain media outlets from reporting on it? If it didn’t exist Youngkin wouldn’t have won because all of those Democrats wouldn’t have helped get this guy over the finish line. All the parents know and that’s why McAuliffe lost his job.

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There really isn't a tax, spend, borrow, escape route.

Simple, you buy, you pay for it sooner or later.

The later, interest is added.

You don't get something for nothing!

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It'll pass next week -

Not through the Senate

I didn't say it would pass the Senate - please pay closer attention when reading...

and then the Repubs can go out and try to explain why they don't support better infrastructure, more jobs, and cheaper medications...but do support trillion dollar tax cuts for the Top 1%.... 

If that were the case you wouldn’t see a growing red tidal wave heading the Dems way.

Uh-oh, another pro-Repub red tidal wave of disinformation like 2016, courtesy of Russia and China....thanks for the warning...

Of course the only three letters that will come out of their mouths for the next three years will be CRT...which doesn't exist...

If it didn’t why were Dems trying to silence certain media outlets from reporting on it?

What? Where'd you hear that, Russia Today?

All the parents know and that’s why McAuliffe lost his job.

Lost what job? What job did McAuliffe have in 2020/21?

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The GOP seems intent on leaving all the roads, bridges and tunnels etc. in the crap condition so many of them are in. The GOP always wants to thwart the Dems so that GOP supporters don't ask why the GOP didn't come up with such good ideas. Sad all round for the US.

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Afraid to even vote when Dems have a majority.

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The GOP seems intent on leaving all the roads, bridges and tunnels etc. in the crap condition so many of them are in. The GOP always wants to thwart the Dems

The Repubs passed that bill in the Senate by the way. Months ago.

Dems won’t vote on it, they don’t need any Republican support at all to pass it and send it to Biden tonight.

but again it’s “next week for sure”.

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I didn't say it would pass the Senate -

I know just reminding you it won’t, which means it’s looking less likely it’ll pass in the House. If Pelosi had the votes she would have voted for it already.

*Uh-oh, another pro-Repub red tidal wave of disinformation like 2016, *

Yes, that’s right and no disinformation, Durham (speaking of investigations) and the government trying to haul in Assange…nice

Of course the only three letters that will come out of their mouths for the next three years will be CRT...which doesn't exist...

Tell that to the millions of voters that fired McAuliffe. Convince them it doesn’t exist, I’ll owe you an apology.

Lost what job? What job did McAuliffe have in 2020/21

Not the trust of the people in his state.

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Look it simple, one cannot walk in your local store, fill your basket and walk out without pay for it.

It known as theft.  

There has to be a clear definable economic policy to service the debt.

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new government entitlements

They're not "entitlements". They're investments.

In a normal functioning democracy, Republicans would be negotiating on this bill to tailor it more to their liking. And there are parts of it that they must like (secretly). But this is not a normal functioning democracy thanks to the current GOP leadership, so everything is dismissed as "socialism".

Tell me Wolf, honestly, is this entire bill socialism?

Afraid to even vote when Dems have a majority.

You know the reason. And again, Republicans are free to join the Democrats in making a better country if they feel like it. Which they don't.

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The US has a nearly $30 trillion debt, run up on a bipartisan basis, and the Dems want to spend another $3.5 trillion on new government entitlements when it can’t adequately fund its current ones - and I’m untethered from reality?

Republicans will continue to pretend to be fiscal conservatives when the Dems are in power and kill assistance the workers of America, then cut corporate taxes and run up deficits when they are in power.

Democrats will continue to elect neo-liberals which will never fulfill the progressive agenda which got them elected, disillusioning their progressive wing and causing voter apathy and antagonize and energize the Republican base with culture war issues. The Circle of American Life.

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And again, Republicans are free to join the Democrats in making a better country if they feel like it. Which they don't.

But they did. They passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

which Dems refuse to vote on.

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The politics is irrelevant in the matter we live, our everyday life, we have to make payment for the produce we buy.

Why would that be any different for government, it is your money they are spending!!

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Look it simple, one cannot walk in your local store, fill your basket and walk out without pay for it. 

I get what you are saying.

but even this isn’t true anymore. Dems passed laws that you can just take up to $900 of items per person per trip.

see the Walgreens store videos in San Fran area. they had to shut those stores down because people would walk in, fill large bags with merchandise and just walk out.

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The US has a nearly $30 trillion debt

Thank Republicans for starting two wars, tanking the economy twice, then granting MASSIVE tax breaks to millionaires for that one.

If you're going to give the 'pubs credit for anything, it's for being smart enough to convince the stupid that the debt is the democrats fault. Maybe if the Republicans didn't keep breaking the country and giving out MASSIVE tax breaks to millionaires, the Democrats wouldn't have to keep fixing the economy.

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Blacklabel, I have never visited the USA, I want to.

I skype US friends, sometime I struggle with with the politics.

They float left to right?

Left or right?

I will visit one day. top notch

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They’re not going to pass any of this in all likelihood, they just don’t have the votes and they can only lose 3 Democrats.

Is that a prediction similar to one about trump winning last elections, ROFL.

The bill will pass, you’ll even get some GOP votes for it. Some of them still have a conscience!!!

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Strangerland, the blame can be proportioned.

But it has to be serviced.

I wonder the world we are living in.

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Whatever you might think about the republicans and their retreat to the old white way of 1950's television land, they certainly know how to vote along party lines and back their President. When you think about it, they would be good little CCCP reps.

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The US has a nearly $30 trillion debt, run up on a bipartisan basis, and the Dems want to spend another $3.5 trillion on new government entitlements when it can’t adequately fund its current ones - and I’m untethered from reality?

Sir, your concern for the country is admirable. Did you lose this concern when the former guy was running the country to the ground?

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Obama had 9 trillion, Biden already has 2.3 in less than a year That’s more than 1/3 of the total national debt.

40% of US dollars in existence were printed in the last 12 months

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Stupidity- the west's political solution to everything.

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From three guys that won two popular votes between them.

You don’t win the basketball game by who makes the most 3 point shots. That’s not how the score is kept, but you know this.

Odd that you never mention Hillary winning the popular vote against Obama but not “winning” the primary.

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Obama had 9 trillion,

That's what the Republicans two wars and collapsed economy cost him.

Oops, sorry, did you want us to ignore that Obama the bill came due on Republian spending while Obama was holiding the credit card?

Biden already has 2.3 in less than a year

That's how much it cost to fix Orange's broken economy.

Oops, here I go again showing how the Democrats have had to fix the country Republicans broke.

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Obama had 9 trillion, Biden already has 2.3 in less than a year That’s more than 1/3 of the total national debt.

Wonderful facts dear sir, adding to them trump had 8 trillion in one term. 

40% of US dollars in existence were printed in the last 12 months

Very valid point, and the fact that is was all printed in 2020 is even more important. Wonder who was in power then.

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Strangerland, the blame can be proportioned.

Yeah, I put it at about 80:20 blue:red.

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You don’t win the basketball game by who makes the most 3 point shots. That’s not how the score is kept, but you know this.

Oh I know, I was just pointing out that America doesn't actually like Republicans or want Republican presidents. You seem to think that Americans actually agree with your team's rhetoric.

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And 9 trillion for Obama.

Isn’t 9 more than 7.8?

and can’t Biden stop adding to it? Or does he have to get “his” 9 trillion too?

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I didn't say it would pass the Senate -

I know

Well, thanks for admitting you were wrong on that one....

Uh-oh, another pro-Repub **red** tidal wave of disinformation like 2016,

Yes, that’s right

Geez, another admission - thanks....

Of course the only three letters that will come out of their mouths for the next three years will be CRT...which doesn't exist...

Tell that to the millions of voters that fired McAuliffe.

Fired? From what job?

Lost what job? What job did McAuliffe have in 2020/21

Not the trust of the people in his state.

Don't dodge - see above - what job?

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And 9 trillion for Obama.

Your team probably shouldn't have spent all that money then. Obama wouldn't have had to bail you guys out.

Isn’t 9 more than 7.8?

Isn't 8 more than 4? Or two more than one, as it were.

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You don’t win the basketball game by who makes the most 3 point shots. That’s not how the score is kept, but you know this.

Sir, you are a true genius, I don’t think the NBA knows this yet.

If the former president was allowed to run up the debt without any checks, I think we can allow some concession for President Biden, he is trying to help the people after all!!!

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If the former president was allowed to run up the debt without any checks, I think we can allow some concession for President Biden, he is trying to help the people after all!!!

No no no, you're determining guilt by action. They're determining guilt by political affiliation.

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Blacklabel, I have never visited the USA, I want to.

I highly recommend it.

99% of America is a wonderful place with warm and caring people.

The media needs to push the 1% to divide people for political gain for Dems.

most people never even think of politics or these identity/social justice causes in their daily lives. Just want government to leave them alone mostly.

But Dems just can’t do that. they have to push race and identity incessantly.

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99% of America is a wonderful place with warm and caring people.

But:

But Dems just can’t do that. they have to push race and identity incessantly.

Hmmm..... I guess Dem's are only 1% of the people? Which is weird considering they've won 13 out of the last 14 popular votes.

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oh so Trump is NOT responsible for the 7.8 trillion of debt after all?

Individually, no. Not at all. No president is. But collectively, yes, Republicans in congress and the executive branch are very much responsible for exploding the national debt.

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Besides both infrastructure bills, Dems will have quite a bit of facts to run on in 2022/24 - a quick comparison;

Feb-Oct 2020 (Trump years): Average jobs lost each month - 1,070,000, unemployment rate - 6.3%, Americans vaccinated - less than 1%, Dow in Oct - 26,502....

Feb - Oct 2021 (Biden years): Average jobs added each month - 620K, unemployment rate - 4.6%, Americans vaccinated - 70%, Dow in Oct - 35,819....

No wonder the Repubs just want to scream CRT - they sure can't win on the facts....

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So anyway good luck on the vote. Now Biden saying “week of nov 15th”. So TWO more weeks now probably.

dems are pretty bad at missing these deadlines though.

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This is not a Dem or Rep problem. This is an AMERICAN problem. They spend trillions and trillions on war and weapons, and yet neglect their own country when it comes to infrastructure, healthcare, racism, gun shootings and domestic terrorism. Just think what could be achieved if all that money wasn't wasted on pointless wars. No wonder China is catching up fast.

Some American woman got charged several 100 dollars just for waiting 6 hours in a hospital the other day. She didn't even get treatment for a head injury. What sort of country is this? Wake me up when the Californian high speed rail is ready. I have a feeling many of us will have died from old age by then.

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You didn’t destroy anything. You agreed that Trump is actually NOT responsible for the 7.8 debt.

Well only one you realized Obama had more at 9 trillion and that he and Biden could he held responsible for debt too if Trump was.

instead of accepting that they all are responsible for their amounts,?you retreated. said no one President is responsible for any of it. To avoid criticism of your guys.

Nice flip flop. Gas prices next?

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You agreed that Trump is actually NOT responsible for the 7.8 debt.

Umm, what?

Have you ever considered that you may may always be angry because you have issues with reading comprehension? Because I certainly didn’t say that.

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Well, thanks for admitting you were wrong on that one....

I didn't

Geez, another admission - thanks....

About Telling that to the millions of voters that fired McAuliffe? Well...

Don't dodge

Not my style, see above or check Youtube for VA last election

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The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. 

Biden plans a whole raft of new spending above and beyond the $2 trillion stimulus passed in March, the $550 billion bipartisan infrastructure measure, and the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill that's so hotly debated in the Democratic ranks. Those include a huge expansion of Obamacare and college aid, and a big bump in discretionary spending. By Riedl's estimate, the Biden measures are likely to add $9 trillion to our total debt by 2031, over and above what existing programs would have tacked on prior to his election. That amounts to 25% in extra borrowing. Even taking an optimistic view, interest on the federal debt will grow at double-digits over the next ten years to absorb the equivalent of two-third of all the revenue from payroll taxes.

And we are just 10 months into this admin. God help us all. So Biden is not only going to surpass anything Trump created on debt but exceed the other 2 Presidents before him.

https://fortune.com/2021/10/06/biden-agenda-us-debt-borrowing/

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