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Democrats win bitter Virginia governor's race in setback for Trump

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The backlash has begun! Roll on 2018 -- there won't be any Republicans left in office after the US electorate gets through with them! Lock them up (I mean "out")!

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Yay, a spot of good news on this site for a change! After a weekend of the sickening Abe-Trump "bromance" being constantly shoved in our faces, this was sorely needed.

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trump has tweeted that gillespie lost because he didn't embrace trump enough. the narcisist doesn't realize that if he did embrace trump more he would have lost by an even larger margin.

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too bad the Democrats have to resort and use dirty tactics and fake news then bring that tasteless garbage to a foreign country and meddle in our system. US keep your Democrats and Republican antics out of Japan's political system. WE can handle our own issues..

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Yes the purging of the republicans has begun.

Trump had endorsed Gillespie but not campaigned with him. The Republican president had taken a break from his Asia trip to send tweets and record messages on Tuesday supporting the former chairman of the Republican National Committee.

But after the outcome, Trump quickly distanced himself from the Virginia Republican.

Goes to show what kind of man Trump is. One who will throw his friends and supporters to the dogs for political expedience.  But like nakanoguy01 said- if he had embraced trump more he would have lost by an even larger margin. That is actually very true.

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Oh finally won one! But it’s just to replace a democratic governor of a democratic state that Hillary won. But congratulations nevertheless finally have that election which is a “referendum on Trump” that you denied only after losing all the other times.

Gillespie seemed too much like an establishment GOP guy going through the motions so didn’t excite anyone much.

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Congrats! This is the first step in taking our country back.

The mere fact these elections are close is massively depressing.

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Oh finally won one!

Actually, the Dems pretty much swept the slate today. Virginia was not the only election.

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Agreed it was a good night for Dems. But you dont get any House or Senate votes out of it.

Also its going to be hard to reconcile that Trump approval ratings equal to or better than favorability of the entire Democratic party.

New @CNN poll: At 37%, favorable views of Democratic Party hit lowest mark in 25 years

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/cnn-poll-republicans-democrats-taxes/index.html

None of the candidates who lost really got very close to Trump and I think that was a mistake. Trump voters are not going to bother to vote for 'Republicans' who try to stay away from him, those voters will just stay home. Those types of politicians are the ones the Trump voters cant wait to get rid of in the current Senate and House. Meanwhile Trump haters out to prove a point will definitely participate as has been shown today.

Regardless, good day for Dems have to wait and see if it means anything for later when it matters (Senate and House) or not.

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The restoration begins here.

True, the Dems are still the flipside of the Repubs with their love-in with big business and dismissal of the working class and poor but maybe (post Clinton) they will have learnt a lesson.

Fingers crossed!

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None of the candidates who lost really got very close to Trump and I think that was a mistake. Trump voters are not going to bother to vote for 'Republicans' who try to stay away from him, those voters will just stay home.

i think you fail to understand how data driven campaigns are now. any candidate running for office these days has pollsters who test a range of ideas and favorabilities. and i'm pretty sure their data told them that republican candidates should run for the hills away from trump, the most unpopular president in modern history (in his first year in office). so spare me the trump-speak that these candidates lost because they didn't embrace trump enough. although gillespie distanced himself away from trump, his campaign rhetoric was all trump, and that is a losing formula right now.

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Funny, it’s Virginia, when is it next to? Washington. How is anyone surprised to a Democrat would win? Come on that was predictable.

Congrats! This is the first step in taking our country back.

Oh, please. But I will say this, I’m predicting the Dems will let this go to their head. The ratio is not that good. They won one race out of 5 they lost this year. Hmmmm...

The mere fact these elections are close is massively depressing

Exactly, so be careful what you wish for.

The restoration begins here.

Yes, we heard that before, the South will rise again. Lol

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Even CNN already admitted “Trumpism” without Trump doesn’t work. That was one of their main takeaways from tonight. Gillespie basically tried to take Trump’s most popular positions but without engaging or involving Trump. voters saw through that and stayed home.

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....and the pendulum swings again......

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But which direction remains to be seen.

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wow lots of talk about taking a country back because a local virginia election? the dems lost the presidency because they rigged the primaries and ignored progressives. if they do it again trump will be re-elected easily

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Gillespie shuns Trump in biggest race of 2017

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/06/virginia-governor-gillespie-trump-northam-244572

George W. Bush to raise money for Ed Gillespie in Virginia

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/29/politics/bush-gillespie-fundraiser/index.html

Gillespie touts experience, Bush ties in new ad in Virginia governor’s race

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/24/ed-gillespie-touts-experience-george-w-bush-ties-n/

But now soon as the results are out, its a referendum on Trump, not Bush? got it, but he simply picked the wrong supporters. this is more like a Trump supporter referendum on establishment Republicans, who I am sure got the message.

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What is not reported here, is the Virginia House of Delegates (Virginia legislature) results.

Democrats gained 13+ seats from incumbent Republicans some from traditionally conservative areas.  Never in Virginia history has so many seats changed in one election.  These local elections are hardly reported on and is an indicator of grassroots feeling felt by the local people.  Prior to the election, Democrats only held 34 and republicans 66, now Democrats hold 47 to Republican 46 (with about 7 seats still too close to call).

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The people have spoken. They hate Trump.

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Even CNN already admitted “Trumpism” without Trump doesn’t work.

A convincing analysis I read states the opposite - that "Trumpism" with Trump is the problem. When elected, he was for most voters a blank slate upon which many voters could project whatever values they chose. Now, though, what Trump is is written clearly on the wall - and many do not like it at all.

And this is before many issues not favorable at all to the president come to the fore. For example, the GOP tax proposal - how is that going? Seriously, I cannot imagine writing a worse bill as the House did even on purpose. The Repubs are now in the unenviable position of being forced to ponder which will be worse: passing its bill and facing the wrath of voters or folding and facing the wrath of donors.

Much will change between now and the midterms, but the wind appears to favor the Dems.

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The people have spoken. They hate Trump.

why is he president? oh yeah, because they hate Hillary more

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With all the speculation why (Hate Trump, etc.) I think that is speculation at this point but it will be interesting to see what exit polling says. It could very likely be Trump or possibly other factors.

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why is he president? oh yeah, because they hate Hillary more

They did, but now the only one who cares about her anymore is Trump, and that’s only to try to deflect from the fact people hate him. The rest of us couldn’t care less about her anymore.

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" dealing a setback to President Donald Trump"

Trump 2020!

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Ok - for the downvoter (whoever you are). Let's not read or consider exit polls. Let's draw our own conclusion without the use of facts. I think I am starting to understand this website more. Must hate Trump to the extreme, no middle ground, no critical thought.

Yes I believe we should read the exit polls and find out what is going on.

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The rest of us couldn’t care less about her anymore.

Well, tell that to the DNC. You know, the group she controlled to rig the primaries from Bernie? Bernie is the most popular politician in America yet the Democrats are trying to keep him from running. Why? Because he wants money out of politics and the Dems are just as corrupt as the Reps. If they block Bernie again watch Trump get re-elected

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States President trump did not carry last year. Guess it is a win for democrats. . .

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But it’s still a long way to the mid-terms and to the next presidential. It’s undeniably a loss for Trump and Trumpism but not one you could point to and say that it foreshadows any sweep back by Democrats, yet.

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I suppose that we are just going to ignore that video of liberal protesters yelling and screaming about sanctuary cities to the point that Northam had to stop and leave his own victory speech? Even when liberals win, they still lose....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lb0xlUts-Q

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No voter fraud rhetoric? I guess the right wing media hasn't found any anecdotes yet.

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Exit polls say...

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/virginia-exit-polls-trump-northam-gillespie-244677?lo=ap_b1

Half of Virginia voters said Trump was a reason for their vote — with twice as many saying they were voting to oppose Trump (34 percent) as to support him (17 percent). Northam won 97 percent of voters for whom opposing Trump was a factor.

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And this in Virginia.....

Voters in the US state of Virginia have elected their first openly transgender state legislator.

Danica Roem, a 32-year-old journalist, ousted pro-Trump incumbent Republican Bob Marshall.

Mr Marshall had described himself as Virginia's "chief homophobe".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41913550

Heh.....so it begins.

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@Madverts

Thanks for the link. A GOP bigot getting his arse kicked by a transgender candidate. In the words of the master of morons, Marshall is a hater and now a loser

I can't think of anyone more fitting to throw the trash out.

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Madverts, you'd have to not been paying attention for a while not to have noticed that "it" began long ago. All that remains is the end of gerrymandering.

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Laguna,

Trust me I haven't =D

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Half of Virginia voters said Trump was a reason for their vote — with twice as many saying they were voting to oppose Trump (34 percent) as to support him (17 percent). 

Considering that Trump lost the state by a much narrower margin, not sure exactly how this is a set back for him. There really isn't, for now, any more ‘Virginia’. There are a lot of liberals in its place a sprawling, expanding ‘Northern Virginia’ which is characterized by those whose livelihoods depend on federal government.

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I suppose that we are just going to ignore that video of liberal protesters

Yes we are ;)

Even when liberals win, they still lose....

Nope, it was a solid win. The first of many. GOP kiddies should sit back and watch how adults govern. ;)

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What are you governing exactly? Just keeping the corrupt NY mayor and replacing a corrupt VA governor with one who seems more reasonable but who liberals already dislike the night of the day they voted him in. Oh and you guys won NJ governor too. How does this change any governing?

Plus the only actual voting seat for national policy was won by a Republican and the Republican will win the senate in Alabama soon. This is progress? How does this make trump a “big loser In Virginia” as CNN hopes?

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I will have a few drinks to celebrate!

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New Jersey voters soured on Chris Christie, despite having the same NJ attitude as NJers

Also, Maine voters became the first state to vote in a state-wide ballot to expand Obamacare, and overwhelmingly, despite having a Republican state governor who's against it (Maine Gov. Paul LePage vetoed a bipartisan legislative deal to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act at least 5 times), so the Maine voters override the governor's veto

Democrat Danica Roem beat a long-time Republican incumbent to become the first transgender person to win a state legislative race.

Ironically, the incumbent she beat was a self-admitted vocal anti-LGBT who sponsored Virginia’s anti-trans bathroom bill

In local races across the country, Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio in New York easily won re-election.

Believe it or not, de Blasio is the first Democrat mayor to win back-to-back terms in NYC in over three decades

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Yeah I don’t quite get the Christie backlash. Like you said maybe it’s like looking in the mirror when they see him and they don’t like the reminder? The Maine vote was interesting as well.

regardless it’s the 1st anniversary of Trump’s historic win today. Would have thought he would be impeached by now based on what I been hearing the last 12 months.

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One year since the election and the Hillary cultists are still going strong with multiple, daily posts. For a retired politician.

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Blacklabel - Yeah I don’t quite get the Christie backlash. Like you said maybe it’s like looking in the mirror when they see him and they don’t like the reminder?

The Christie backlash is a direct response to the media's repeated accusations that Christie was responsible for the "Bridgegate" scandal. After several state and federal investigations, and a criminal trial, it's been proven that Christie was not involved in "Bridgegate". The media has not apologized for it's harassment, or it's lies. Therefore, many people still believe Christie instigated the bridge closing, instead of blaming the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey perpetrators'.

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Oh that’s interesting to hear thanks for the education about Christie. I was wondering what happened as I wasn’t aware that he was so disliked these days.

As far as Hillary, if she would actually go away and stop talking she wouldn’t be a daily topic. Well that and if people would stop falsely accusing Trump and his people of things that she and her people already did do and escaped punishment for.

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There will be mid term election. If republicans overcome or not on next Presidential election is questionable now. Trump will be candidate again. Who will defeat Trump? People who do not have college educations are basis for Trump but they are deserting Trump now.

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Canton might be recovering from. Trump created bad. publicity.

I thought fox stopped impeachment ad but early this morning CNN had redone ad. Smear campaign is continuing but this will not. Help ote campaigners.

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People who do not have college educations are basis for Trump but they are deserting Trump now.

Trump's approval is down 7 points from where he stood among whites generally in April. Most of that Trump erosion is among non-college educated whites, a group that served as one of the pillars of Trump's 2016 win. At the 100-day mark, Trump was at 59% approval among non-college educated whites. Today, it's 46%, down 13 points. Ironically, Trump's approval went up among college-educated whites - 38% of college-educated whites approved of Trump in April while 42% do now, up 4 points.

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Funny thing: many in the media are calling Ralph Northam a moderate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Northam#Political_positions

Pro-abortion, pro gun control, pro minority, pro woman, pro health care, and the biggie

pro Tax the Rich.

If that is what passes for a moderate Dem these days. Halleluja, I am finally at home.

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GOP kiddies should sit back and watch how adults govern. ;)

you mean raise taxes and increase welfare? yeah!

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BlacklabelToday  01:26 am JST

As far as Hillary, if she would actually go away and stop talking she wouldn’t be a daily topic. Well that and if people would stop falsely accusing Trump and his people of things...

The accusations would be false if the people making them knew beyond any shadow of a doubt Trump didn't do any of those things.

,,,that she and her people already did do and escaped punishment for.

After all those GOP inquiries and investigations that still haven't turned up anything you know for a fact that Clinton and co are guilty, do you? If not it looks a bit like you're throwing false accusations around yourself.

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Was funny watching Trump and Breibart praise the man as a warrior and what not then dump his as "not supporting me and therefore lost" and "White House Swamp" respectively. What a bunch of sore losers.

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why is he president? oh yeah, because they hate Hillary more fake news again, Trump won because of the electoral college, Hillary had more support than Trump, not something you get from people hating on you.

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Hillary had more support than Trump,

Still trying to subvert the Constitution eh?

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FizzBit: "Still trying to subvert the Constitution eh?"

Stating facts is not "subverting the Constitution". Colluding with Russia, as many in Trump's cabinet clearly have, and obstruction, ARE. Face it, Trump was not the popular choice. That cannot be disputed. He still won, which also cannot be disputed. Now, you guys are obviously bitter about Virginia and the other losses to Dems yesterday, and even moreso that it is a clear sign Trump's ways are only taking the nation and GOP down, and also that the GOP are starting to realize it and jump ship at a faster pace (including nearly all American diplomats overseas, for which Trump said "I am all that matters"), but you cannot deny the facts or make up alternative ones that you can expect anyone but yourself to believe.

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after millions more americans now have jobs and consumer confidence to buy things and illegal alien criminals are being thrown out of the country, hard to believe the primary-rigging dems could beat Trump in the next election

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Still trying to subvert the Constitution eh? no just stating the actual facts, not fake facts. if the US constitution allows voter disparity due to a person location , (which is unconstitutional in many democratic countries) then thats something Americans will have to live with. But please dont harp on to me about , land of the free, pillar of modern democracy BS. many countries in this world have a far fairer form of government than the US. Many of Trumps supporters have a larger voting disparity than the President himself, that says a lot right there. 1 person = 1 vote, well in any sane democracy that is.

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Well, tell that to the DNC. You know, the group she controlled to rig the primaries from Bernie?

Yeah, Bernie got screwed by the DNC. Which is really irrelevant to the right, other than as a talking point to try to divert attention from the Disaster in Chief.

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No, its very relevant because then Hillary (owner of 'the DNC') contracted with Fusion GPS. Who then hired a foreign spy who reached out to Russian intelligence contacts to make a fake dossier. As we know that Russian collusion was to try to screw Trump out of the General Election just as she had screwed Bernie out of the primary.

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I will just let these stay right here, the URLs tells all.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-not-popular-hillary-clinton-even-worse-approval-rating-polls-661070

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-public-opinion-better-than-hillary-clinton-242398

http://news.gallup.com/poll/212705/hillary-clinton-unique-no-post-election-image-gain.aspx

Yet there was Hillary yesterday trying to take credit for the Virginia and New Jersey wins.

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The accusations would be false if the people making them knew beyond any shadow of a doubt Trump didn't do any of those things.

People dont have to prove allegations false, much less false beyond some shadow of a doubt. The accuser simply has to prove the allegations TRUE. Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

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Heh, 'But Hillary!...'

You guys are obsessed with her. It's as weird to us as it would be to your team if we kept going on about Mitt Romney.

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Did Mitt rig an election or mishandle classified emails or sell Uranium that got exported out of the USA or collude with a foreign power against Obama in the election? If so yeah you would be talking about him still. Its not unusual to continue to speak about the crimes of criminals while forgetting the involvement of lawful people.

Oh and if Obama hadnt laughed at him when he said Russia is our geopolitical foe and told Mitt to go back to the 80s you could still talk about him. But its awkward because either he was right and you have to admit Obama was wrong- OR- Romney was wrong and they are not our enemy but you have to keep quiet because you already invested in this 'Russia' narrative.

Awkwardness all around either way, plus Romney actually went away, unlike Hillary who interjects herself into EVERYthing.

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No, its very relevant because then Hillary (owner of 'the DNC') contracted with Fusion GPS. Who then hired a foreign spy who reached out to Russian intelligence contacts to make a fake dossier. As we know that Russian collusion was to try to screw Trump out of the General Election just as she had screwed Bernie out of the primary.

Alrighty. But, why do you care?

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See Blacklabel, I get what you’re saying. But Mitt.

So there.

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Yeah but Mitt. Just reminds me even more how fake the “Russia is our enemy” is.

Obama ridiculed Romney over saying that yet now I’m supposed to believe it? So was Obama wrong or did he lie for political reasons? See this is why this never comes up it doesn’t end well for you guys either way.

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Why do I care? Because we have wasted a year on a supposed Trump “collusion” when it was someone else on the other side trying to influence the election with Russian help the entire time.

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Why do I care? Because we have wasted a year on a supposed Trump “collusion” when it was someone else on the other side trying to influence the election with Russian help the entire time.

Yeah, but Mitt!

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Obama ridiculed Romney over saying that yet now I’m supposed to believe it?

what?

Why do I care? Because we have wasted a year on a supposed Trump “collusion” when it was someone else on the other side trying to influence the election with Russian help the entire time.

Obviously not. Those who can start investigations have decided that there is nothing there. You're simply wrong.

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sorry to deflate the left wing fantasy about a trump backlash. Virginia was already run by a Democrat and replaced by a Democrat. that's hardly evidence of, some sort of backlash. new Jersey is a Marxist Democrat blue state. Chris Christie was an outlier, new Jersey going back to their Marxist left wing is normal not evidence of anything against trump. so dems have one extra governorship of the small minority they had, not a factor. there is no story here at all, except the left wing trying to convince itself they we're too stupid to beat trump last year.

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There are no Marxist Democrat states in the US. Those who berate others for being "stupid" should perhaps learn the difference between Marxist ideoology and center right politics. You literally couldn't get two further apart doctrines.

Meanwhile; the real backlash and far-reaching development? Roy Moore.

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BlacklabelNov. 9  09:22 pm JST

The accusations would be false if the people making them knew beyond any shadow of a doubt Trump didn't do any of those things.

People dont have to prove allegations false, much less false beyond some shadow of a doubt. The accuser simply has to prove the allegations TRUE. Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Sorry, I haven't a clue how that relates to my comment and I can't be bothered to try and work it out. Should I just assume that it's BAD when anyone makes an unfounded accusation against Donald Trump and his campaign, i.e. one they believe to be true but can't prove as opposed to one they know to be not true, but OKAY when you do the same thing with Hillary Clinton?

BlacklabelNov. 9  10:17 pm JST

Did Mitt rig an election or mishandle classified emails or sell Uranium that got exported out of the USA or collude with a foreign power against Obama in the election?

No, and no one involved with the Clinton campaign is being charged with doing the same thing. The time to talk about that will be when someone actually is under investigation.

Awkwardness all around either way, plus Romney actually went away, unlike Hillary who interjects herself into EVERYthing.

Of course he did. His election loss wasn't nearly as controversial. Do you think Trump and his fans would ever shut up if it had been him who had lost?

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yabba dabba doo. make my day.

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when it was someone else on the other side

Hillary?

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