EU wants calm amid virus protests; rioters called 'idiots'

They lied and here are the consequences.

If you have scientists and experts saying one thing, and politicians saying the opposite, why choose to "believe" in the politicians instead of the experts?

From the beginning everybody knew vaccines are not 100% effective, that immunity (all kinds, including natural) may not be permanent and that variants for which immunity is less active were likely to appear. Pretending that politicians knew better than the people that actually work professionally to control epidemics is not believable. Anybody that wanted to know had the information available.

When governments start behaving like nazis and abolishing individual freedom then it is both good and right for people to protest and resist.

And lockdowns called ‘unscientific’ !

Politicians have had nearly two years to bump up dedicated MASH-style facilities to maximise the mass treatment of Covid patients. They have failed to do it. They have thrown public money at everything except that, which looks shady and incompetent. They promised that vaccinations would see a return to normal and they are consequently now seen as liars. They are now using live fire on their own citizens. That will get them, at best, voted out of power.

People no longer believe what their politicians say, with considerable justification.

I'm vaccinated and I think everyone who can get them, should. And I would encourage people to wear a mask too, whenever they can. The lockdowns have been hamfisted, illogical and do too much harm. Punishing everyone because a few choose to take risks is not sustainable.

We have to live with Covid circulating, and governments will have to organise some basic medical care to allow that. It's a pandemic. People will die, particularly if they take the risk of not vaccinating. It happens. It is not a reason to lock everyone up. Aside from anything else, we need Covid to run through society before the vaccinations wear off, and 'lockdowns' delay this.

Lockdowns wouldn’t be necessary if more people got vaccinated, wore masks, and exercised some self-restraint in public. Much of Europe has yo-yoed back and forth between extreme lockdown and absolute freedom. It’s not working. Be reasonable, people. Work together. Think of others.

If you have scientists and experts saying one thing, and politicians saying the opposite

That is wrong!

Politicians follows and repeat what the experts are saying.

Therefore all these government medical adviser experts exists and get consultet from the government before they publish something.

When the shots were rolled out they were touted as "95% effective", "lifetime immunity", "all you need is 1", "no more masks", "no more lockdowns", "herd immunity at 70%" blah blah bla

All these were the words of the so called experts.

"Much of the discontent however is targeted at politicians who had promised that vaccinations would bring freedom. "

We know how that ended OR never ended!

Sometimes leaders need to call morons for what they are: selfish and stupid.

"the government lied!"

No they didn't, they have to work with what science brings them. The people in Europe are creating a "them" Vs "us" situation, and blaming them for mishandeling the virus situation. Instead of working against your own chosen government, folks should work with them. The politicians aren't exempt to these measures and have to follow them as well and they too, would like to return to a normal life style as well. The unvaccinated folks absolutely don't bring anything to the table besides conspiracies and unrest. Work with what you have!

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"Much of the discontent however is targeted at politicians who had promised that vaccinations would bring freedom. "

We know how that ended OR never ended!

That's the problem. It hasn't ended - too many people have refused the vaccine. So save your ire for them, not the politicians.

And for those who abused the protests to foment violence, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte just called them “idiots."

Idiots is probably the nicest thing you can say about these anti-vaxers and vaccine doubters....

Given they are 11 times more likely to die of COVID, just call them the "departed"....

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-10-15/unvaccinated-adults-11-times-more-likely-to-die-of-covid-19-cdc

They should have told the truth at the beginning or admitted that they didn't know.

Eh? They told us exactly what they knew, the results of the studies they had. Of course they didn't know what would happen over six months, they didn't have six months of knowledge. That's why they keep testing, to find out.

But some low-intelligence people think that the somehow vaccines can't be trusted, because said low-intelligence people made a bunch of mistaken assumptions they're now blaming on some nefarious force, rather than admitting that they weren't smart enough to not make said assumptions in the first place.

The whole of East Asia is looking at the west and shaking their heads. Most of us just put our masks back on and get on with life.

EU wants calm

Also, EU calls its people "idiots".

Good plan.

"When governments start behaving like nazis and abolishing individual freedom then it is both good and right for people to protest and resist."

Hmmmm...wasn't aware nazis were big on SAVING lives....

Sometimes leaders need to call morons for what they are: selfish and stupid.

And sometimes 'selfish and stupid' (but not willfully deluding themselves that the vaccines are working) people need to call the bourgeois what they are: pompus fascists.

Sometimes leaders need to call morons for what they are: selfish and stupid.

Well thats not very"woke"

The only way to get life back to something as normal as before this all started is by manning up and getting vaccinated.

The coronavirus isn't simply going to just fade away unless we all wear masks and get vaccinated. The only reason the rates of coronavirus have been decreasing is because of those getting vaccinated, and the only reason the coronavirus is still with us in such high numbers is because of the anti-vaxxers.

Getting the vaccine is good for you and everybody you know, so what are you waiting for? Man up, stop being a selfish and get vaccinated.

All these were the words of the so called experts.

Of course not, imagination is not a valid source to argue, can you bring any source where actual scientific experts said vaccines were the only needed measure? or that you would only need one for all your life? you have "misremembered" things frequently, you should at least try to see if what you think people said is actually what they did before trying to base your arguments on it.

(but not willfully deluding themselves that the vaccines are working

Nobody is doing that, because it is not necessary, if every single medical and scientific institution of the whole world says vaccines are working wonderfully, even against a variant they were not made against, the ones that are deluding themselves are those that think the scientific and medical consensus is wrong and their own uninformed opinion is right.