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Employee being fired fatally shoots 5 co-workers, wounds 5 police at Illinois plant

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Those guys in the pictures are police officers?

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Trump tweeted his thanks to law enforcement officers in Aurora and offered his condolences to the victims and their families. "America is with you," he said.

Thoughts and prayers. Gun deaths are clearly not a national emergency. Let's move on and get working on Trump's vanity wall project instead. Then we can rest easy again.

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I wonder what police officers who used to walk the beat 50 or 60 years ago would say if they were shown a photo of those armed officers above. They'd probably ask how did things get so bad that the military have to police the streets.

I remember my grandfather, who grew up in a small city inn Australia, saying how people often knew the police officers on the beat by name and the police knew the citizens. They'd greet each other. They had guns and there were violent crimes but nothing like this.

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Just another day in 'Merka. Can't wait till the next Democratic president looks at teh ACTUAL national emergency that is guns and declares it as such, then starts implementing actual gun-control measures, collecting automatic weapons and what not.

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You KNOW you live in a scary place when cops need to be kitted out like in the top pic!!

SCARY!  USA please start to deal with your GUN issue! Haw many thousands each year need to die or be wounded to see you have a problem!!??!!

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guns aren't scary, and guns do not kill people, people kill people, and the last thing I want as an American citizen is the GOV collecting anything from me other than taxes.

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oldfordmangaijin: "guns do not kill people, people kill people"

With guns they kill people, and hence why you Don't have even beyond a 1% rate of gun deaths in any other country not at war, and in some cases zero gun-related deaths, but every year in the US... what is it now? above 30,000/year? But you'll just cut and paste your argument for tomorrow's gun massacre.

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With guns they kill people, and hence why you Don't have even beyond a 1% rate of gun deaths in any other country not at war,

I don’t care about other countries, I care about the US, most countries don’t have a 2nd amendment either like we do, thank God!

and in some cases zero gun-related deaths, but every year in the US... what is it now? above 30,000/year? But you'll just cut and paste your argument for tomorrow's gun massacre.

No, don’t need to, because when you into consideration that Oregon alone has more than 61,000 registered guns, the liberal socialist Antifa Mecca stronghold. Good luck getting all those guns.

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RIP innocent victims, condolences to family, friends and community. 

Hopefully the injured police will heal quickly and completely. 

Thank you police and emergency service workers. I'm sorry they once again had to stop all they were doing so they could focus on another gun related incident. 

I'm also sorry for the taxpayers whose taxes are already too high in part because of gun related violence.

Police said they did not know the gunman's motive.

But look at the Las Vegas BUMP STOCK BUTCHER, the man who murdered 60 people and injured many more. After investigations costing millions of dollars were held, NO motive could be found, beyond he had guns - legally purchased - and decided to use them to slaughter innocent humans.

Motives? The one consistency I’ve noticed in all these shootings is a person with a gun fired bullets that killed and injured others.

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Wouldn't it just be so much better if we banned guns so he'd have to stab or run over people instead?

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No, don’t need to, because when you into consideration that Oregon alone has more than 61,000 registered guns, the liberal socialist Antifa Mecca stronghold. Good luck getting all those guns.

Antifa is relegated to Portland, which is not all of Oregon. Blanket statements are rarely accurate.

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Wouldn't it just be so much better if we banned guns so he'd have to stab or run over people instead?

Ok cool. Knives don't have the range and cars can't enter most buildings. Far less effective tools for killing.

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@bas4 Oregon alone has

By making that gross overgeneralization you're showing you know next to nothing about Oregon. Stick with Orange County, Germany and Texas.

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Antifa is relegated to Portland, which is not all of Oregon.

That’s not the issue, the issue is, their stronghold epicenter and headquarters is in the

State of Oregon.

By making that gross overgeneralization you're showing you know next to nothing about Oregon. Stick with Orange County, Germany and Texas.

No, I do. It’s called traveling and vacation.

Anyway, I pray for these officers and people and hope they will recover soon.

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"Thoughts and prayers but don't worry... Everything will be ok once the wall is built"

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I don’t care about other countries, I care about the US, most countries don’t have a 2nd amendment either like we do, thank God!

Yeah, thank God the United States has a massive rate of gun deaths. Imagine how miserable it must be for those countries living without that.

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Hey Trump: thanks for giving Democrats the ability to label all these shootings a "National Emergency" when it's our turn in the White House. 

And you'd better believe we'll do it.

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If no link to Trump this will be out of the news by the end of the weekend.

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and the last thing I want as an American citizen is the GOV collecting anything from me other than taxes.

What's so funny is all these Trump2ANRA people who come to Japan willingly with no guns. Japan is a big gun free zone.

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Smithinjapan - guns don't kill people, the people using them do. Gun control ain't going to make a difference to someone who wants to kill someone else. Chicago is a prime example of that!

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most countries don’t have a 2nd amendment either like we do, thank God!

I seldom agree with Bass, but here I do. Thank God most countries don’t have a 2nd amendment.

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Excuse me in what world are those people police officers? In my country that is a SWAT team at the least

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It's about 40 minutes W of Chicago. Chicago that has had gun control for decades, as well as that super murder rate. The state itself is basically insolvent. But hey! At least we have a new Governor who is spending money left and right. The populace continues to leave but not because of gun violence. It's the killer taxes that are responsible for the exodus.

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Smithinjapan - guns don't kill people, the people using them do. Gun control ain't going to make a difference to someone who wants to kill someone else. Chicago is a prime example of that!

Giving people who want to kill people machines specially designed for killing is the danger.

In a normal country this shooter would probably have just gone home and got drunk. But give an enraged person a gun and you get bloodshed.

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guns aren't scary, and guns do not kill people, people kill people,

OK. I agree that guns do not kill people. It is bullets and ammunition that kill people.

I propose to allow them to keep their guns but to make ammunition illegal. All will need to be surrendered and anyone found in possession will be imprisoned.

Thus the the right to bear arms is maintained and gun deaths are reduced.

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Wouldn't it just be so much better if we banned guns so he'd have to stab or run over people instead?

Like in Japan?

The answer to your question is yes - it would be much better.

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There were already laws in place to prevent this guy from having a gun. More gun control laws are not the answer as criminals will always have guns. Knowing that, I will have a gun as well for the protection of me and mine.

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There were already laws in place to prevent this guy from having a gun. More gun control laws are not the answer as criminals will always have guns. Knowing that, I will have a gun as well for the protection of me and mine.

Was the guy mentally ill, a criminal, or did he just snap? Obviously the current laws aren't working... and it's not entirely unlikely that the victims and their families also had guns for their own protection. If it is the case then a fat lot of good it did them.

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Would it be an outrageous violation of civil rights if we added a tax on guns and ammo to pay for all this police equipment needed due to mass shootings?

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Smithinjapan - guns don't kill people, the people using them do. Gun control ain't going to make a difference to someone who wants to kill someone else. Chicago is a prime example of that!

That's right. America is beyond help. All Americans want to do when a mass murder happens is to bury their heads in the sand and think the problem will go away ... at least until the next mass murder.

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Sorry, forgot to put in the quotations:

Smithinjapan - guns don't kill people, the people using them do. Gun control ain't going to make a difference to someone who wants to kill someone else. Chicago is a prime example of that!

That's right. America is beyond help. All Americans want to do when a mass murder happens is to bury their heads in the sand and think the problem will go away ... at least until the next mass murder.

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Another mass murder in the U.S. Thoughts and prayers time again. But reasonable gun control is not in the wings, thanks to the NRA, the weapons industry and common Joe gun fiends.

But is only place in the U.S. where there is stringent gun control. NRA conventions.

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If it weren't for the "POLICE" tag, and the doughnut-induced morbidly obese man, one could easily think those guys in the picture are soldiers heading for battle.

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Gun deaths are clearly not a national emergency.

A future President could theoretically declare it a national emergency thru Executive Powers

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Can't wait till the next Democratic president looks at teh ACTUAL national emergency that is guns and declares it as such, then starts implementing actual gun-control measures, collecting automatic weapons and what not.

Obama did not do any of this, even when his own party held a majority in the Congress.

The same is true for Bill Clinton.

Exploiting a tragedy to advance political points is no way to substantively address that tragedy.

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