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Meanwhile in Japan ....

Much more awareness of ithe ssues that matter is needed here in Japan, and it should start with more serious coverage of environmental issues by the media which seems to sugar coat or ignore many of them.

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To have real change, govts around the world need to subsidize behaviors they want and place higher taxes on things they don't want.

This applies to anything - cars, power plants, fast food, sugar, vegetables, smoking, anything. The difficult part is having undisputed scientific results which won't change in 12 months with the opposition does a different study to disprove all the prior studies. I can't believe there is any argument that humans should be eating at least 50% of their food as vegetables and limiting processed carbs, rice, potatoes, and grains. This science is in, but the companies producing grain, potato and rice-based foods, will always fight against the recommendations from true science.

Global climate change is 1,000,000 harder to understand than the best human food.

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Yes, let’s protest the Sun going through its regular warming cycle.

Yes, lets believe an American political ideology over the studies of scientists who have dedicated their lives to study of the matter.

Makes sense.

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"I want to grow up. I want to have a future," Conermann added.

The children of most fossils leading the global fossil economies will inherit the wealth their families have gained over the generations through their investments in big energy, big ranching, big tobacco, big finance, big defense among other corporations that have got rich and powerful from their roles in the fossil economy.

Their children can probably use their inheritances to protect themselves from the pollution and climate change fall-out ahead better than the majority of people will be able to.

They probably will have to sell off some of their beachfront property, maybe even their properties in ski country because of climate change related problems.

But given the reality that the world is being taken over by the corporations their parents control, the children of fossils will inherit control of the future. Fossil zombies?

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I'm so proud of the young people today as we face humanity's greatest challenge. Good on them for showing us the way and standing up to the cynics and deniers.

People like Greta Thunberg are the real leaders of this beleaguered world. Inspirational.

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Skipping school is great, but did any of them come up with solutions?

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Don't be so glum. There are 42 climate models. Our media reports things from the least accurate models because they make great headlines to sell clicks. The model that has shown to be the most accurate when run backwards and forwards from any point in time is the Russian model which indicates a risk of global temperatures rising by 1C by the end of the century.

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If they go and plant trees and then it's better than making noise and blocking streets.

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I wonder how many of these kids would have shown up if the protest was on a school holiday?

Yes, lets believe an American political ideology over the studies of scientists who have dedicated their lives to study of the matter.

The sun's effect on climate is not a political ideology, but scientific theory. And "belief" is not the basis of science at all. It's the basis of religion. Science is built on skepticism and testing.

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Saw this on international news yesterday. Most of these so-called ‘protesters’ were filming the events on their smart phones and drove to the venues. Just a bunch of ‘hippy-crits’ with nothing better to do with their time. It’s too late to stop climate change. Even if CO2 production was cut to zero today it would take thousands of years for it to be absorbed back into the environment. They should be more concerned with what their grandchildren will be eating after a third of the world’s agricultural land becomes inundated with salt water after the ice is gone.

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I wonder how many of these kids would have shown up if the protest was on a school holiday?

Especially during summer with all the smash hits blockbusters at the movies. Gonna hide my cows, hunker down, hide my bullets and wait for all of this to blow over 18 months later according to Thunberg or 12 years as AOC says.

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the Russian model which indicates

what the state's oligarchs want it to indicate. Russia's present and future wealth is dependent on selling more coal, gas and oil, the burning of which contributes to climate change. According to most of the world's scientists.

drove to the venues.

If your point is driving vehicles that burn fossil fuels and the pollution that results is a problem, then hats off. Identifying problems is the first step in trying to deal with them.

 It’s too late to stop climate change. 

Many in the generations left to deal with the messes made by the fossils running the fossil economy want to try to if not stop it, slow it down. Young people no doubt have watched movies and read books about the future dystopia resulting from centuries of environmental neglect. During the Vietnam War protests, a rally cry was 'kill your parents'; not literally, but instead the ideas such as fighting a war that killed millions of innocents. With young people today it's stop their predecessor's assaults on the environment.

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All those years of brainwashing are finally starting to pay off. CO2 increased from .03% to .04% since the start of the industrial revolution and now we are supposed to believe the end is near - well, in 12 more years. Water vapor (2~3%) is by far the dominant of the greenhouse gases and is more powerful in its heat trapping capacity.

Of course the climate is changing- it always does. It has been warming since the end of the little ice age in the 18th century. That should not be a shock. The world would be much better by buying mosquito nets and raising living standards through the spread of capitalism than by phasing out fossil fuels. But let’s be honest, this has less to do with the environment than it does with being a vehicle to spread socialism. The absolute best way to reduce CO2 emissions is by copying the French and building lots and lots of nuclear power stations. The fact that the Socialists driving the warming hysteria adamantly oppose cheap, scalable, and reliable nuclear power tells you all you need to know about their agenda.

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People like Greta Thunberg are the real leaders of this beleaguered world. Inspirational.

Yawn. Her sailing crew was scheduled to fly home by fossil-fuel burning airliner back home. Another crew is scheduled to fly in to sail the boat back to Europe. Her stunt was part of the problem, not the solution.

What does she say about population control? Because that's the only real fix to man-made climate change. Less "man," less C02 pumped into the atmosphere. How obvious is that?

But no one, including plenty of activists, wants to work on that solution, it seems.

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It is clear that existing political elites and their paymasters do not care about the environment. They do not care about ordinary people either, but the environment is a universal problem crossing national borders and generations. This makes it more important than ordinary people in any given country.

For me, climate denial is the same as anti-vax, flat earthers, creationism, and people who walk around with healing crystals that were mined by slave labour.

I don't know if school strikes are the best way to fight climate change, but they are better than doing nothing, especially as doing nothing plays exactly into the hands of existing political elites and their paymasters who profit from further environmental destruction. To focus on tactics is to completely miss the issue, which is that far more needs to be done and politics, not little individual choices like bringing your own bag, is the way to get it done.

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Toasted HereticToday 08:22 am JSTI'm so proud of the young people today as we face humanity's greatest challenge. Good on them for showing us the way and standing up to the cynics and deniers.

People like Greta Thunberg are the real leaders of this beleaguered world. Inspirational.

She's a female eco-Gandhi. Or maybe a MLK girl. She will be well respected in history 10 years from now for her peaceful activism.

But then again some lunkheads have spread stupid rumors about Gandhi being a woman-beater and there's still fools in the American population that believe the crap our media says about MLK being a 'Communist', a 'womanizer' or a plagiarist at his doctoral thesis dissertation.  Ignorance pervades in America like a cancer.

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I wonder how many people in China took part in this? China is the #1 carbon emitter itself and is financing the building of coal fired power plants around the world. Maybe Greta should go there and educate them.

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All those years of brainwashing are finally starting to pay off. 

Da, spasiba. Luckily, most people can see through the alt-right haze of lies and deception.

Greed and rampant capitalism will destroy the human race. Those that live for money and profit, see only short-term.

Whereas, the kids are savvy. It seems we must rely on them for our salvation.

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How about it, folks? Saving the planet is a sneaky socialist scam.

Really. That's the narrative now.

Hell, let's stick it to the liberals and commies by poisoning the land and seas, make the ecosystem toxic and destroy our future. That'll show 'em!

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Greed and rampant capitalism will destroy the human race.

And leading the way are Trump, Putin, Xi and other despots backed by nuclear powered militaries and of course their financiers. Corporatocracy uber alles. All those years of brainwashing have produced sheepled peoples parroting their ruler's lies.

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@Toasted, you said:

Saving the planet is a sneaky socialist scam. Really. That's the narrative now.

And in your immediately preceding comment, you said:

rampant capitalism will destroy the human race

Considering comments like these, you'll forgive me if suspect some "environmentalists" are driven more by political dogma than by environmental concern. And such people are actually doing more harm to the environment by insisting Marxist-inspired "solutions."

The environment should not be made into a partisan issue. It can be addressed, but people need to check their politics at the door.

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The environment should not be made into a partisan issue. 

When you have one party that insists that science cannot be believed, how can it not be partisan? The only way an honest discussion can be had on the matter, removing politicians, is to remove opinion, and work with facts.

But one political party won’t acknowledge the facts and insists that scientists who have dedicated their lives to study of the matter cannot be trusted.

This isn’t a partisan issue. That’s why you don’t see conservatives parties in other countries pushing the same partisan stance on climate change as you do in America. This is an issue of humanity dealing with a major problem.

That one political party in America insists isn’t real. So where does a non political discussion come from? And how long do you expect the rest of us to not get condescending towards such people out of frustration?

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Toasted: Da, spasiba. Luckily, most people can see through the alt-right haze of lies and deception.

What lies would that be? Is it a lie that total atmospheric CO2 has risen from .03 to .04 since the industrial revolution began? Is it a lie that water vapor is a more powerful greenhouse gas? Is it a lie that there is a lot more water vapor in the atmosphere than CO2? Is it a lie that water vapor is highly variable? As capitalism has literally raised hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty over the past two decades why have the attacks against it have correspondingly intensified? Finally, is it a lie that climate science is highly politicized?

The Left is no longer willing to discuss climate science because it has become dogma. That is not science- science isn’t dogma. But politics is.

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@Strangerland: When you have one party that insists that science cannot be believed, how can it not be partisan?

Which party are you referring to? The one that thinks biological men can be female (and vice versa).? The one that believes a human being with a heart beat and brain activity should have less legal protections than domestic animals because they haven’t taken their first breath?

That one political party in America insists isn’t real. 

This statement is factually untrue. Pretty much everyone believe that the climate changes and always has. Everyone believes the climate has warmed since the end of the Little Ice Age. Go ahead - ask the question? Of course, that’s not how the surveys are constructed.

Not everyone believes that a rise in atmospheric CO2 from .03 to .04 is going to lead to irreversible global destruction in 12 years. Especially since CO2 is not the dominant greenhouse gas. But the hysteria has been deftly utilized to push Socialist politics and potential non-Socialist options are discounted out of hand (nuclear power for example). That is a corruption of science and many scientists are participating in this political campaign. Those that don’t toe the line are ostracized and attacked. How is that science? Scientists are human and they are subject to the same corruption of self interest as anyone else. Remember the Lefts eugenics pogroms of the early to mid-twentieth century? Groupthink can be a dangerous phenomenon- we should be wary of it now.

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This is so serious, the UN-Habitat is looking at floating cities..

https://www.un.org/press/en/2019/dsgsm1269.doc.htm

https://mymodernmet.com/bjarke-ingels-group-floating-city/

https://archpaper.com/2019/04/big-and-mit-floating-city-of-the-future/#gallery-0-slide-0

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There are 42 climate models. Our media reports things from the least accurate models because they make great headlines to sell clicks

Only 42? Haven´t counted, but I thought I have seen more than that. That fact alone that there are dozens of different models with different results shows that we are not talking about some scientific consensus here, but about politics. And the way the some climate fanatics argue (i.e. denouncing critics as "deniers" and demanding that heresy should be outlawed) is actually religion... medieval religion at that.

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