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By WAFAA SHURAFA and SAMY MAGDY GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Commodore Perry
The terrorist group Hamas cares so much about its people it has a parade to celebrate the destruction of their cities?
theFu
Hamas is the problem here. They started this. Hamas is a puppet of Iran, who doesn't care how many Palestinians are killed, even by their own people.
This latest conflict feels like the US-Iraq war when all the Iraqi tanks and trucks were retreating and President Bush stopped the bombing runs that would have have killed thousands of those men. Israeli forces are showing completely restraint. If they wanted, they could flatten all Arab areas in Gaza, killing hundreds of thousands of people.
Israelis don't want to kill anyone, but they don't want to be killed either.
If you want peace, you don't begin with violence.
wtfjapan?
Hamas Hamas Hamas. War crimes against humanity towards Palestinians have been going on long long before 2007 when Hamas came into power. What excuse did the Zionist entity spew before then. What was the excuse in the 90's in the 80's in the 70's? What about the 60's. And all the way back to the early 1900. Always an excuse. Israel is an occupation force. The Israeli Occupying Forces (IOF) no matter how much the Zionists will try to twist it around, the facts are, Palestinians all over Palestine, and not just Gaza, are RESISTING cruel inhumane occupation by the Zionist Colonizer. Resistance is futile is what Israel (aka the both) tried so hard to convince the Palestinians and the world, but we still RESIST!!. Zionism will fall. And it will be the Jews from all over the world that will have a huge role in toppling Israeli politics and government.
Aly Rustom
for all the pro zionist supporters- lets see how YOU react when you get dragged out of your homes and watch as they are given to another group of people Just because they are of a different race or religion. contemplate that before blaming the palestinians
Commodore Perry
Contemplating it. Certain it is happening in many parts of the world right now. But why isn't anyone talking about that?
Thankfully, the same is not taking place in anywhere near Israel. Does anyone know someone who has been dragged out of their home and then watched as it was given to another group of people (admittedly, I have seen pictures of such taking place during the Holocaust)?
Fake news.
ulysses
For all the fundamentalist jihadi supporters how does it feel to live your life looking over your shoulders because someone wants to kill you just because of your faith!!!
Commodore Perry
Your first argument is irrelevant because I didn't write anything related to not experiencing something, it didn't happen.
And your link helps my argument that Israel is just in doing what it wishes with their land.
Your anti-semitism shows in your other posts.
Simon Foston
Commodore PerryToday 08:20 am JST
No one's talking about it because it isn't the topic of the article.
Commodore PerryToday 09:26 am JST
Israel hasn't formally claimed sovereignty over East Jerusalem, has it? Hasn't its control over that part of the city been condemned by the UN?
Conflating criticism of the Israeli government and anti-semitism, i.e. hostility towards and discrimination against the Jewish people as a whole, is inflammatory, offensive and clearly an extremely disingenuous but transparent attempt to discredit others whose views don't conform to yours.
Commodore Perry
Palestine hasn't formally claimed sovereignty over East Jerusalem, has it? But they did reject the land when it was offered to them as part of a two-star solution--and they rejected it! And they didn't make a fuss when Jordan occupied that land for almost 30 years, did they?
Commodore Perry
We already went over the issue that anti-semitism is not a term in the English language that includes Arabs.
Commodore Perry
I have nothing further to say on this subject.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. put it this way when he was approached by a student who attacked Zionism, When people criticize Zionists,King said, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism.
William Bjornson
ANTI-SEMITISM IS REAL!! And it would do well to remember that the PALESTINIANS are SEMITES and the zionists are invading EUROPEAN FASCISTS of, originally, Turkiç extraction.
Simon Foston
Commodore PerryToday 09:59 am JST
I might have guessed you would avoid answering the question.
I reject your definition of anti-semitism. I think it's a term you've twisted into something else for the purpose of strawman arguments. You can't refute the criticisms so attack the critics and impugn their integrity.
RichardPearce
What are the Israelis celebrating?
Getting away with war crimes again.
What are Palestinians celebrating?
Showing the Israeli regime and the world that they haven't been broken yet.
But there's also another thing to consider.
What do you think the past week and a bit has done in the offices that serve the Prosecutor of the ICC?
Yes, it's one thing to know that the investigation into the events of the last decade in Palestine is going to be a defining moment when the court either truly becomes an INTERNATIONAL COURT rather than a court that just judges Blacks, and quite another to see the slaughter that the court's existence is supposed to prevent happening before your eyes. That is the sort of thing that drives those who believe in justice to not just work overtime, but hate that they have to stop work to sleep.
Simon Foston
Commodore PerryToday 10:12 am JST
Probably just as well. If you're hoping to win anyone round to the Israeli point of view you're not going a great job.
By that logic when people criticise Nazis they mean Germans, or when they criticise Republicans they mean Americans, including Canadians of basically the same ethnic stock born on the same continent.
Commodore Perry
Simon-- your "analogy" is wrong from so many angles.
Try arguing against what I've been saying over and over:
Hamas is a terrorist organization. Holding a parade disrespects the families of Palestinian Arabs who suffer under Hamas' rule.
Palestinian Arabs rejected the creation of a 2 party state-they wanted all the land!
Israel, a sovereign nation, has the right to defend itself.
Aly Rustom
Isn't that EXACTLY what the Israelis are doing ulysses??
Commodore Perry
@P. Smith
Your posts single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by Hamas and Palestinian Arabs-that characteristic is a baseline for statements that are are anti-Semitic. And that is not my definition btw.
But interested in hearing what you have to say about the below:
Hamas is a terrorist organization. Holding a parade disrespects the families of Palestinian Arabs who suffer under Hamas' rule.
Palestinian Arabs rejected the creation of a 2 party state-they wanted all the land!
Israel, a sovereign nation, has the right to defend itself.
Simon Foston
Commodore PerryToday 10:33 am JST
There seem to be some problems with your Martin Luther King anecdote too as it's disappeared.
Commodore PerryToday 10:33 am JST
That's nothing to do with what I was saying about your contention that Israel can do what it pleases in East Jerusalem, which it has never formally claimed or annexed. Regardless of whatever the Palestinians' position is, Israeli control of East Jerusalem is not recognised internationally, and the UN has declared it to be an occupied territory. I am fully expecting you to weasel out of commenting on that.
Commodore Perry
Something out of whack if MLK's quotes are deleted.
Jerusalem happened to be the capital of Israel--oh, about 3000 years ago.
The only time that the eastern part of Jerusalem was exclusively Arab was between 1949-1967, and that was because Jordan occupied the area and forcibly expelled all the Jews. No comment on this occupation???
Israel has not formally annexed or claimed the land (like the occupying Arab nation Jordan did) because then it would have to give citizenship to the Palestinian Arabs there.
The UN? Please. A historical anti-zionist, anti-semitic organization, save for the sanity of US votes and vetoes.
Anyway, if anything it is a disputed territory.
Occupied only refers to land belonging to another country. There is no country of Palestine.
Did Palestinian Arabs ever claim or annex East Jerusalem? Let's see about who is the weasel.
Goodlucktoyou
We need to arm the Palestinian people with more serious and effective weapons. Bullies are cowards. If Israel is seriously threatened, they will back down think that maybe peace is better than apartheid.
ulysses
No but it is exactly what Hamas does, bounties on capturing Jews, doesnt matter if they are civilians or military!!!
I can understand someone opposing Netanyahu's policies, there are plenty in Israel who do that.
But supporting Hamas????? You don't do that unless you are a jihadi apologist!!!
Commodore Perry
@ulysses
Totally true, and valid points.
Aly Rustom
Oh please! enough with the BS conspiracy theories.
Go ahead and point out where I supported Hamas. I dare you. Support for Palestinian resistance is not support for Hamas.
FizzBit
Why is the MSM calling it at war? They must be desperate. Lol
Commodore Perry
@P.Smith
You misread, as I noted I was done with explaining the meaning of anti-semitism .
And since this article deals with Hamas holding a parade for its 'victory', Ulysses' comment is not a conflation, but a valid observation.
And your not condemning Hamas but criticizing Israel is anti-Semitism.
And @Aly Rustom-- support for Palestinian Arab resistance?!?!?!?!--who is shooting the rockets at Israel civilian sites? Not Hamas? Then Palestinian Arab civilians shooting rockets and their supporters are legitimate targets in Israel's restrained self-defense.
Can't have it both ways.
Aly Rustom
and where are the Israelis firing THEIR rockets??
Israel's restrained self defense?? the slaughter of children?? the leveling of news agencies' buildings precisely for the reason of not letting the world see what they are doing?? Give me a break.
FizzBit
MSM - “hey, let’s take a total aggressive action by a prison state and relabel it a war. That will fool 50% of the population and that’s all we need”.
starpunk
This is purely political and nothing else. Nutty Yahoo is facing criminal conviction and this idiotic war is a 'wag the dog' venture. Besides, Israel is a poltical state and is NOT Judaism. And if what happened in Sheikh Jarrah isn't an act of 'ethnic cleansing', then what is? It's purely WRONG, simple as that.
While HAMAS is a bunch of terroristic fanatical dirtbags, they don't represent the Palestinian people. Nutty Yahoo just wants to look TU-TU-TU TU-TU-TU TOUGH but in reality he has mud on his face and blood on his hands.
Commodore Perry
@Aly Rustom
Israel has a right to self defense. Plain and simple. It is a sovereign nation.
The news agency building that was evacuated because Israel gave fair warning? How cruel of Israel!
Meanwhile, the terrorist group holds a parade while hundreds of Palestinian Arab families hold funerals for those killed by Hamas' shooting rockets at innocent Israeli civilians.
But you agree that it is wrong for Hamas to hide in civilians' neighborhoods and shoot rockets at Israeli civilians?
Aly Rustom
But it doesn't have a right to slaughter children. Plain and simple.
It is an apartheid state.
Hide in civilian neighborhoods?? You are aware the Gaza Strip is a TINY piece of land housing 2 million people are you not? ANYWHERE you go you will be surrounded by civilians. And whose fault is that ?
proxy
A war with both sides happy with victory.
Aly Rustom
Oh I don't know.. maybe the forceful evictions of palestinians from their homes? or the storming of the Al Aqsa Mosque by the israeli army maybe??