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House passes bill to reverse changes blamed for mail delays

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For many, the Postal Service provides a lifeline, delivering not just cards and letters but also prescription drugs, financial statements and other items that are especially needed by mail during the pandemic.

'For many', i.e. the 'little people', the 'others', the 'general population', those living on Main Street who rely on the post office, the people the 'elite' like Trump and his billionaire filled admin have probably never had any contact with, the 'others' they don't care one rat's about.

Trump and his fellow 'elite' care only about themselves and maintaining their power and personal wealth.

Of course Trump and his Republicans want to limit the number of 'others' voting. The 'others' are painfully aware the pandemic and the Trump economy have hit them hardest. The 'elite' don't want the 'others' to vote.

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Ignore Trump, Pelosi says...

I think a lot of people would agree with that

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Ignore Trump, Pelosi says...

I think a lot of people would agree with that

I know a lot of people disagree with that.

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There is zero evidence that democrats want to commit election fraud.

Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

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Ignore Trump, Pelosi says, as House debates postal funds

Surprised this headline doesn’t read “Ignore Rose McGowan, Pelosi says, as House debates postal funds“. McGowan is creating some wrinkles in the Dem steamed-n-cleaned version of their party.

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Don’t ignore trump. Fight him every inch of the way. Ignore him when he’s out.

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Unfortunately, Sen. McConnel will prevent it from moving ahead in the Senate, like the latest Covid relief bill, which has left tens of millions of unemployed up the creek.

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Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

You’re now a fan of polls? Could you make up your mind? This constant flip-flopping on polls by Trump supporters is tedious.

Clinton was leading Trump in the polls in 2016, but lost. Why would you think the polls this time matter? Smells like desperation.

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The post office is not a business. It is a national service, just like water, sewer and garbage. Postage should be affordable for everyone. Keep an eye on efficiency and bureaucracy, sure. But just pay the bill and deliver the mail. Best local municipal example: should snowplowing be a business? No, just get the snow plowed. It's that simple.

The National Weather Service comes to mind too.

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The post office is not a business. It is a national service, just like water, sewer and garbage.

The National Weather Service comes to mind too.

Pony Express or phoney Express.

Sharp minds or sharpies.

Clear choice to make.

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Democrats have the power to make this all go away. Just lie. When polled, say you are voting for Trump. Make him think he is up by 10 points instead is losing.

Suddenly all this talk of delaying elections or not trusting the results with evaporate instantly.

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Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

Exactly!

Democrats have the power to make this all go away. Just lie.

Well, we all know  that already, tell us something new.

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'For many', i.e. the 'little people', the 'others', the 'general population', those living on Main Street who rely on the post office, the people the 'elite' like Trump and his billionaire filled admin have probably never had any contact with, the 'others' they don't care one rat's about.

I'm sure the Powerful and almighty rich Democrats think that exactly.

Trump and his fellow 'elite' care only about themselves and maintaining their power and personal wealth.

As do the Democrats, even more so because now Biden in many of the polls are leading by 5 points and that's not good for Democrats. Just wait until the RNC kicks off and then in 8 days we will have the first debate. The greedy rich and powerful Democrats over the course of 4 days mentioned nothing about the trade, taxes, China or violence, rioting and looting or defunding the police or how exactly they want to grow the economy, huge mistake.

Of course Trump and his Republicans want to limit the number of 'others' voting.

As do the Democrats.

The 'others' are painfully aware the pandemic and the Trump economy have hit them hardest. The 'elite' don't want the 'others' to vote.

Thanks to these Democrats mayors and governors keeping people locked down is the best thing that could happen.

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The logistics are just not available in the time frame constraints.

Blood out of stone, would be a understating the task at hand.

Committing $25 billion would be throwing good money after bad. U.S. Postal Service operations require a planned, thoughtful, restructuring proposal, not months, but a program possibility measured in a year or two.       

U.S. Postal Service operations is not in any position to guarantee the integrity required to secure a full on postal , mail in ballot.

Election Mail.

https://about.usps.com/what/government-services/election-mail/

Develop Logistics Support Strategy

https://about.usps.com/manuals/spp123108/html/pp_ps1_018.html

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Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

"In some polls" - brilliant. The numbers for Biden are much better than 5 points at the moment. More like 7.6, averaged over all major polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

In any case, how you get the idea that he "can't win" with a 5 point poll lead is a mystery. Over the last 30 years, just about every winner, from either party, has had numbers like that, both in August and in later months closer to the election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_United_States_presidential_elections

So let's downgrade Biden's "can't win" to "ahead, but still might not win" and Trump's "assured landslide" to "no sign that Trump is even going to win, but strong indications that he is going to lose".

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The Electorate will soon realize what is patently obvious.

Both the Democrats and Republicans, cannot/will not refrain from turning/weaponizing the U.S. Postal Service into a toxic political football with potentially disastrous consequences.

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Trump will do anything to avoid a free and fair election.

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Ignore Trump, Pelosi says...

I think a lot of people would agree with that

I know a lot of people disagree with that.

And most live in Russia...

Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

Exactly!

Hmmmmm.... Trump supporters admit Trump is losing to Biden, then say Biden can't win....

All after saying for weeks that polls don't matter...

They may want to check out the polls in the key swing states....

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/03/897202359/2020-electoral-map-ratings-trump-slides-biden-advantage-expands-over-270-votes

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And in related news, North Carolina voters were sent through mail absentee ballots with Trump's face on them encouraging voters to vote for him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/north-carolina-voters-receive-ballot-request-forms-with-trumps-face-2020-8

It's ironic since Trump himself railed against the Postal Service.

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It seems to be acceptable to obsessively post about democrats and liberals even when mentioning them makes a post irrelevant. Weird. It sure doesn’t contribute anything to the conversation.

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The logistics are just not available in the time frame constraints.

Questioning the abilities of the good people that work at the post office isn’t very patriotic.

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Committing $25 billion would be throwing good money after bad. U.S. Postal Service operations require a planned, thoughtful, restructuring proposal, not months, but a program possibility measured in a year or two

No, it requires Republicans to not cripple the USPS by forcing it to prefund 75 years worth of pensions in a mere 10 years. You don't get to ham-string someone and then act like the fact that they can't walk is evidence of weakness.

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Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

You’re now a fan of polls? Clinton was leading Trump in the polls in 2016, but lost. Why would you think the polls this time matter? Smells like desperation.

I don't think the polls, the way they are done, are accurate. Pre-coronavirus, Trump was packing in the stadiums at his rallies, while Biden struggled to fill a high school gym.

Universal/mass mail-in ballots were not an issue up until this year when the Democrats suddenly are trying their best to jam this down out throats. Smells like desperation.

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Democrats suddenly are trying their best to jam this down out throats.

Not only Democrats, but many Republicans who are jumping ship and siding with the left, as evidenced by this bill passing the House. But as usual, many rightists want the public to not mention or disregard the fact that so many former Republicans are realizing that Trump is not fit to be POTUS. In fact, there are so many testimonials from Republicans, military personnel, and people who had voted for Trump in the last election, who now realize this.

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Pre-coronavirus, Trump was packing in the stadiums at his rallies

Who cares? Those days are gone.

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Pre-coronavirus, Trump was packing in the stadiums at his rallies

Who cares? Those days are gone.

Yeah, the Democrats wish that.

Not only Democrats, but many Republicans who are jumping ship and siding with the left

Yeah, we need to get rid of the feckless RINOS as well as the feckless Democrats.

This is populism vs globalism. I'm with the populists.

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Biden's only ahead in some polls by around 5 points. The Democrats know he can't win with numbers like that.

oh so the polls are accurate now!? and its actually closer to 8 points on most major polls

mail in voting will be a thing in 2020, there is an expected record number of people who will vote by mail, more people vote less chance of a Republican win, silent majority wont be silent come November.

https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

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Pre-coronavirus, Trump was packing in the stadiums at his rallies, while Biden struggled to fill a high school gym.

Pre-coronavirus trump was getting impeached.

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I'm with the populists.

And I guess you're with the fascists as well, but that doesn't make it right. I prefer not to let fascism creep into America.

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just like anything the current Democrats have broken then blame everyone else and leave it to fix and make a whole ruckus they caused in the first place. The USPS has been working well delivering mail to everyone since the Pony Express until the Democrats got their hands on it. If left alone it would have been fine, but no they have to scrounge to make more trouble. Enough. No one wants to be that kind of Democrat anymore, its a dying party and well the Republicans are not too far behind if they keep this up. But just like everyone blames Abe so to blame Trump. what a farce. Sorry not buying Fake News or social IA made up by fat cats. I can read and research for myself. Trump may not be liked by many Democrats who are out of touch but hey you sure spent that check.

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Universal/mass mail-in ballots were not an issue up until this year when the Democrats suddenly are trying their best to jam this down out throats. Smells like desperation.

coming from Trump who opening stated that refusing funding for the USPS means no mail in voting, a clear violation of the electoral law and constitution. Seems like the Dems and Repub dont agree with Trump and theyve rectified that wrong, remind me whos the desperate one now. Even Trump knows more voters means less chance for his victory, same thing that happened during the 2018 midterms

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The USPS has been working well delivering mail to everyone since the Pony Express until the Democrats got their hands on it. If left alone it would have been fine, but no they have to scrounge to make more trouble.

clearly haven't been listening to Trump , he clearly stated that no funding for USPS means no mail in voting,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlOaml93Sts

and get this Trump and Melania will be voting by mail also, LOL

his postmaster general and major campaign contributors started removing letter boxes and sorting machines , where mostly blue states, now the senate has fixed that wrong, suppressing the vote is both illegal and unconstitutional, I havent seen any evidence the Dems have been trying to do that, actually the opposite

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And I guess you're with the fascists as well, but that doesn't make it right. I prefer not to let fascism creep into America.

ha! Where have you been? Fascism didn’t “creep into America”, it was invited by both Dems and Reps with huge campaign contributions, lucrative boardroom jobs after serving, and all the other perks from a number of organizations including the MIC, multinational corps, central banks, and let’s mention, again, that 6 corps control 90+% of what the US sees hears and reads. So please spare us with your “Trump = fascism” crap.

invalid CSRF

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Pre-coronavirus trump was getting impeached.

Yeah, by a Democrat-controlled House that had nothing better to do than try to overturn the 2016 election result. He was acquitted in the Senate.

I'm with the populists.

And I guess you're with the fascists as well

Wrong.

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I don't think the polls, the way they are done, are accurate. 

So why are you citing them. You’ve flopped back to not believing the polls. Choose a position and stick with it, if you’re capable.

Universal/mass mail-in ballots were not an issue up until this year when the Democrats suddenly are trying their best to jam this down out throats. Smells like desperation.

Incorrect. It wasn’t an issue until Trump opened his mouth in an attempt to hedge if/when he loses. His followers, who clearly can’t think for themselves, then started screaming about it. Too bad for them that facts aren’t on their side yet again. Oh my.

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So please spare us with your “Trump = fascism” crap.

Yeah! It’s not as if a Trump is exacerbating the fascist tendencies; he’s “fighting the establishment” by hiring/appointing criminals and interfering with private corporations.

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P.Smith

Yeah! It’s not as if a Trump is exacerbating the fascist tendencies; he’s “fighting the establishment” by hiring/appointing criminals and interfering with private corporations.

No, it is not.

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7 Things you need to know about the USPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfMP8rIGpbM

-biden was caught flat out lying and peddling blatant comspiracy theories in this vid. What a quote. Yet, some leftists still think joe is a good guy.

I has been obvious for decades that pelosi is a leftist who does not have the interest of the American people's best interests in mind. When congress and the senate had to decide on the bailout package/stimulus check for the American people, it was peolosi and schumer and the other leftis 'politicians' who delayed and delayed and delayed by tying to add absolutely unrelated side packages in to the stimulus plan. She didn't care about the American people then, nor has she ever. And she certainly doesn't care now since the only way to secure enough votes to keep the election close is to cheat. It's been a proven fact over the years and as a matter of fact they have to do a do-over election in New Jersey becaue four democrats were caught cheating again.

pelosi and her leftist clan are freaking out if they don't have control of the USPS because that would most difinitely ensure defeat since they won't be able to cheat as much.

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rgcivilian1Today 11:56 am JST

just like anything the current Democrats have broken then blame everyone else and leave it to fix and make a whole ruckus they caused in the first place.

So true. Everything the leftists touch they destroy.

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When will the Trump supporters just admit they have been conned for the past four years...

Steve Bannon openly laughs in their face - taking their money for "a wall" and stuffing it in his pockets...

Trump rails against China and says illegal immigrants are invading our country, while he gets his clothing line made in Chinese factories and employs illegal immigrants at his properties...

The Pubs in the House and Senate say they care about the little guy, but give huge tax cuts to the Top 1%, all on the nation's credit card...

Both Trump and the Pubs say they stand for law and order while this White House has more indicted and convicted felons than any other administration in history...

The far-right media hate machine terrorizes them, while bilking them with books and Premium Memberships...

Trump supporters - please, open your eyes - you don't have to suffer all this humiliation...

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I'm sure the Powerful and almighty rich Democrats

As do the Democrats,

As do the Democrats

Thanks to these Democrats 

This debate lark is easier than I thought.

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Ah_soToday 09:50 am JST

Trump will do anything to avoid a free and fair election.

Leftists have been caught time and again cheating during elections. It's their MO.

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Mail-in balloting was never a problem until Trump suddenly said it was. Why now? He had lots of time to say it before, but now when he feels the heat, he suddenly wants to fix it so he'll win? It's like Putin fixing his own elections.

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Yeah, by a Democrat-controlled House that had nothing better to do than try to overturn the 2016 election result. 

No, because he abused his power and obstructed the congress.

He was acquitted in the Senate.

He was impeached by the house.

Pity the GOP lost its courage!!

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I don't think the polls, the way they are done, are accurate. 

So why are you citing them. You’ve flopped back to not believing the polls. Choose a position and stick with it, if you’re capable.

I haven't flopped, I'm pointing out that they are biased in favor of Biden. It doesn't mean that Trump will win if the polls have Biden with a yuuuuuuge lead of, say, 20 points on election day, he probably wouldn't. But if he has a lead of only a few points, Biden is toast.

When will the Trump supporters just admit they have been conned for the past four years...

When will Democrat supporters just admit they have been conned for the past 4 decades?

Trump rails against China and says illegal immigrants are invading our country, while he gets his clothing line made in Chinese factories and employs illegal immigrants at his properties...

Yeah, he's not perfect.

Biden, who has been in government for 47 years now says he will fix it. Good grief...

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Yeah, by a Democrat-controlled House that had nothing better to do than try to overturn the 2016 election result. 

No, because he abused his power and obstructed the congress.

There's no evidence of that.

Trump was just ordered to pay the court costs of the porn star he paid off. That should give him a boost with his trailer trash base.

You're just obsessed that a billionaire businessman, years before he ran for president, might have had sex with a pornstar, aren't you?

Trailer trash / xenophobic / homophobic / deplorable / irredeemable...

Sticks and stones, Love. Sticks and stones.

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Biden, who has been in government for 47 years now says he will fix it. Good grief...

Yes, its insane. And yet the Dems force themselves to believe.

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Again, for those uneducated conservatives; the major difference between 'absentee voting' and 'universal mail-in voting' was the application which was needed to be filled in stating an excuse for not voting in person. However, because of the COVID-19 situation, most places have rescinded that excuse, thus making it easier for people to vote. This in effect has made absentee voting and mail-in voting virtually the same.

What Trump is doing is basically handcuffing the Postal Service in being able to deliver ballots to both systems. But that is Trump's strategy all along, isn't it? Whatever the outcome of the election is, he can just blame it on the Postal Service, or lack thereof. He needs to create a scapegoat, just like when he says "If I lose, it must have been rigged".

Also, let's not forget that Trump himself has voted by mail before.

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Yes, its insane. And yet the Dems force themselves to believe.

yet I havent seen Biden do a fraction of the monument frackup that Trump has done in the last 3.5yrs,

I mean it would be almost impossible to do any worse than Trump's legacy.

"but but he's senile, but but Ukraine" that's all they got lol

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Sticks and stones, Love. Sticks and stones.

"sticks and stones , nobby does sticks and stone better than me" master of disaster Donald Trump

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Leftists have been caught time and again cheating during elections. It's their MO.

litigation , investigation, convictions? please quote case number even links supporting your claim.

your opinion doesn't make it fact, its just that an opinion.

Here's my opinion backed with facts, the senate committee report led by Republicans found that Trump's campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 election

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWRJa7qlmmc

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