Demonstrators attend a protest to demand authorities scrap a proposed extradition bill with China, in Hong Kong, on Sunday. Photo: REUTERS/Tyrone Siu
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Hundreds of thousands gather in Hong Kong for rally against China extradition bill

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RitskuToday  02:14 am JST

NYT reporting 1.03 million people, not just "several hundred thousand". Get your facts straight JT

Kyodo also reported 1.03mio. What more impressive is HongKong population is only 7~7.5mio.

one of every 7 people were on the street protesting and showing their will.

They could show their will for independence by 4 million out there next time!

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Who are protesting ?

People who care about democracy.

Ritsku, you have never been in HongKong, have you ? Do you know what it means when 1 million people on the street ? It means mission impossible. HongKong is a small place, that is straight fact.

Invonvenience is a small price to pay to maintain democracy. Mainland Chinese people wouldn't understand this because they have zero idea what democracy is.

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Ritsku, you have never been in HongKong, have you ? Do you know what it means when 1 million people on the street ? It means mission impossible. HongKong is a small place, that is straight fact.

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NYT reporting 1.03 million people, not just "several hundred thousand". Get your facts straight JT

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rlperez@hotmail.com.au:

Hong Kong was part of China until the British leased (annexed) it

I know but the current China is stolen by the Communist Party. Since the Communist Party is not chosen by the people, they are not a legitimate government for China. When China is returned to the Chinese people, Hong Kong can be reunited. Till then, stay away.

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rlperez@hotmail.com.au:

Hong Kong was part of China until the British leased (annexed) it

I know but the current China is stolen by the Communist Party. Since the Communist Party is not chosen by the people, they are not a legitimate government for China. When China is returned to the Chinese people, Hong Kong can be reunited. Till then, stay away.

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Rlperez:

Believe this was the case where Confederate promises, leases, and other things were rendered null and void. As far as the US presidents, they are elected from the same citizenry. If Karl Gruber proclaims himself US President and has his own army take over the country, I would say yes, any agreement between a now-non-existant United States of America and other countries is null and void. The Gruber regime (citizens United states of America) does not get to inherit it.

And yes, the american govt recognizing a different president in Venezuela breaks international law and convention. Thats why you don't do it, because an enemy might do it to you.

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juminRhee: So any agreement entered into by Obama is no invalid because Trump is the new President?  Or to put another point to it, any agreement entered into with the Confederates became void after the were defeated by the Unionist?

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The basic problem is China is a nation run by thugs, who are scared to death of the prospect that the millions of their citizens who have no personal rights or protections will see that other Chinese in Hong Kong are able to live and thrive in a much freer society than the one in which they are forced to live.

That could lead to social upheaval and threaten the exalted position of these thugs, who pretend to be leaders.

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Rlperez:

The lease the British signed was with the chinese emperor. The successor state to the Chinese empire is Taiwan (republic of china). The people's republic seized power from the republic which seized power from the Empire.

If I leased property to fred, but Karl kicks fred out and lives there, then Greg kicks Karl out, did I change lease to Karl or greg? Or is my lease agreement with Fred still?

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Crazyjoe:

China knows how to handle protests and "rebel scum". They'll do a Tiananmen and censor talking about it. No change since 1989, whereas east Germany...

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socrateos:  "It's a result of their own decision to become a part of China,"

Hong Kong was part of China until the British leased (annexed) it. It is now, again, under Chinese rule and Chinese laws should apply, just as US laws apply to Hawaii, which was annexed by the US.

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I understand the people of Hong Kong feeling as if this was their last chance for autonomy, freedom and resistance to an authoritarian government.  I hope their protests are effective and I admire their courage.

Don't stop fighting Hong Kong! Don't give up.

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If you live in HKG, it is passed time to sell your flat/house and packup grandma for a life somewhere else where freedoms are guaranteed and laws matter.

Same for Macau.

The day when the freedoms expected in those locations end is coming fast.

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We could expect the China extradition bill bill to pass when the broadcast of "Behind the Headlines with Wen Tao" on Phoenix TV was decided to end.

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"Protests against the bill were also planned on Sunday in 26 cities globally, including London, Sydney, New York and Chicago."

Who are protesting ?

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Again, no hong kongers had this foresight back in 1997 when Britain gave hong Kong to the people's republic of china?

Britain made the deal of return to the Empire of China. Taiwan would be the closer of the existing successor states as the republic of China predates the People's. Or just find the former emperor's great grandson.

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It's a result of their own decision to become a part of China, instead of seeking for an independence. Too bad. It's too late. Hong Kong is gone. Freedom is dead for them.

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China's tentacles are long and they do not tolerate dissent.

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Nah .. It will be shelved ... The mainland will never roll tanks into Hong Kong

The Bill will pass, and it will be the final nail in the Coffin for Hong Kong.

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Of course I totally support the rally but also of course change will come slowly at the cost of many lives.

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The long-term prospects for Hong Kong's relative freedom and democratic rights ( which were far from ideal even under British rule) may not be so bad if the truth be that the people of Hong Kong swallowed by the arrogant mainland communist government will prove, after all, to be an indigestible meal that will slowly sicken, undermine, and eventually bring down the tyrannical rulers in Beijing who continue to blind themselves to the force and power of people's aspirations for freedom.

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The Bill will pass, and it will be the final nail in the Coffin for Hong Kong.

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